AUS - Khandalyce Kiara Pearce (Wynarka) and mum Karlie Pearce-Stevenson (Belanglo) #3

[silverau]

<snip by me>

Someone who starts up KP Exploration & Drilling with enough business acumen to start at the business quarter. Did the accountant do this?

KP Exploration & Drilling has a bad credit rating Where other businesses has KP Drilling got credit? Many businesses want an ABN to open a credit account with their business. But how long would the credit last?
Did someone ramp up a fuel card debt, along with many other accounts?

Hold on - where did you get the info it had a bad credit rating??

 

[Panda]

Pay Pass/Wave wasn't introduced until the last couple of years in Australia.

Oh yes, I forgot that. Scary how used to technology you get, seems like it's been around for years and years. :facepalm:

 

[crabstick]

The father and son police have been hunting have a brand new Landcruiser they stole apparently.

 

[crabstick]

I posted it the other day.

There is a train station in Evanston to Elizabeth (wheelchair) *RichieSwan jumps into Streetview car for Maroon Commodore wagon :bodyguard:

There is a jockey club too with race track

Had Karlie taken on the job of carer for someone with a disability? So if Karlies business had acquired a bad credit rating, maybe the bank shut down the account? Not just inactivity?

Hold on - where did you get the info it had a bad credit rating??

 

[silverau]

I posted it the other day

Gah! I must of missed it!

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Someone local to 5116 Adelaide but goes to Alice Springs, doesn't see Karlies mother? Did Karlie meet someone in ALICE. She had a ring on her engagement finger.

Someone who starts up KP Exploration & Drilling with enough business acumen to start at the business quarter. Did the accountant do this?

<modsnip> Many businesses want an ABN to open a credit account with their business. But how long would the credit last?
Did someone ramp up a fuel card debt, along with many other accounts?

"The house at Railway Terrace where alleged murderer Robert Joe Wagner stored dismembered bodies in barrels in the back of a 4wd in the driveway."

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I don't necessarily think it was someone local to Evanston, because I think they ended up there later. We only have evidence of an Evanston address via the ABN which happened later on, when Karlie left Alice she first went to Norlunga then over Canberra, which could mean one of the SA people originated in the Southern Suburbs .. anyway, notice all the suburbs connected to Karlie in SA have been housing trust areas .. this could simply be coincidence or they could all be known to each other, who knows. There is plenty of evidence to suggest the people in SA at other times lived in Salisbury, Holden Hill etc ..

 

[KG1]

note a period of about 15 days at Christmas of non-activity...a holiday perhaps? Visiting family somewhere??

Waiting for next Centrelink payment?

 

[JaneSA]

The Daily Mail UK have attributed this image to Facebook.

I wonder where and how they found it, because I can't.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ly-grim-echo-notorious-SNOWTOWN-killings.html

 

[hideoustroll]

I'm also starting to wonder why the elusive suitcase man has not come forward.

Now that the Wynarka case is national, and connected to another high-profile crime, it is harder to say that he has just missed the news from SA that a suitcase was found and police want to talk to him because he's not a big TV watcher or follower of social media. I'm not in Australia but I get the impression that this story is now being covered very strongly on all fronts - please correct me if I am wrong.

Des Bray made it plain that withholding information was a serious crime. Yet suitcase man still remains silent. Even if completely innocent, he is still in the wrong for not coming forward.

This case hasopened up a can of worms with regard to a whole network of serious criminal activity all over Australia. Many people could have been affected. Not to mention what befell Khandalyce herself. What kind of supposedly innocent person would put his own personal concerns above providing information to police that could be of great help?

It may be that he is 'largely irrelevant,' as Des Bray has said. But the question of his silence still bothers me.

You would think that it would be impossible to escape mentions of this case but apparently it isn't. I mentioned it to a friend, a lady in her fifties, the day after Karlie and Khandalyce were identified and she had never heard of ANY of it. Not the unidentified Belanglo girl, the Wynarka suitcase, or the news that they were id'd and it was a double murder. None of it. I think in her case, it's because she is not much into social media and they ALWAYS have their tv's on the same couple of Foxtel channels that probably don't have news.

 

[KG1]

Maybe Karlie just left the letter she got from the bank, letting her know what the pin was, amongst all her other papers she had that they used to take on her identity. I've done that

Or she was forced to divulge the number before she was killed.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

The Daily Mail UK have attributed this image to Facebook.

I wonder where and how they found it, because I can't.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ly-grim-echo-notorious-SNOWTOWN-killings.html

It was posted on the memorial page .. https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=952054094866395&id=898763036862168&hc_location=ufi

 

[antechinusRAWR]

Re the truck driver theories, it's always possible this does involve someone who's worked in the transport industry, but it doesn't really make sense that the NSW parts of this crime were committed while someone was driving an interstate truck - long distance travel of the sort we're seeing really isn't at all unusual for people living in remote/regional Australia anyway (especially 20 somethings, or people who are into cars & recreational driving to begin with). When it takes 30 mins to drive from your house to the end of your driveway to get your mail, or it's an overnight trip to check your back fenceline, you can get a very different perspective on distance

Re Belanglo specifically, the trucks going to the quarry would be tippers or truck & dogs that do local work, they don't tend to do interstate runs unless they've just been bought/are being delivered to a work site.

http://www.salesandauctions.com.au/user_images/3216375.jpg

The trucks that do work the interstate routes, like semi's, B-doubles & road trains, would be pretty unlikely to be taken into a Belanglo fire trail at all & certainly not without attracting a massive amount of attention - not even if they dropped their trailer first & drove in bobtail.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/yFKufZ54DlM/hqdefault.jpg

If they did attempt it bobtail while they were on an Adelaide>Canberra run, they'd also have to find somewhere to safely leave their trailer while they drove into the forest & that would draw even more attention - it'd be noticed by every other truck/off work driver passing by because it would be such unusual behaviour (it's a good way to get your trailer stolen).

There are a LOT of trucks in this area of NSW, nearby Sutton Forest has a MASSIVE truck stop & many locals work in the interstate, intrastate & tipper industries (& there are lots of coal truck drivers from the mines around the Southern Highlands/Wollondilly/Wingecarribee/Illawarra too)

- someone in the industry would know this & I don't think they'd take the risk.

If they're an interstate driver they'd have to risk taking their very identifiable truck where it didn't belong & would instantly attract attention from the logging & quarry drivers. If they were a local logging or quarry driver they either had to take their truck into the forest at a time it didn't belong there to avoid attracting the attention of their workmates OR risk transferring Karlie from another vehicle to their truck so they could take the even worse risk of trying to get her up that fire trail during their work hours.

I mean, crazier stuff has happened, but IF there's a truck driver involved in this, IMO he had to have access to a car for Belanglo, I just can't see a driver risking it in a far more obvious & easily identifiable truck - & I'm not sure a semi could even access the fire trails without getting stuck, which is not something you'd want to risk under these circumstances.

 

[Panda]

Or she was forced to divulge the name before she was killed.

Or she was familiar enough with the perpetrator to trust him with her pin number.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Or she was forced to divulge the number before she was killed.

*shudder*

 

[JLZ]

Or she was familiar enough with the perpetrator to trust him with her pin number.

Or Karlie in Canberra or Belanglo was put on the phone to Khandalyce in Adelaide, and Khandalyce was threatened or tortured.

 

[crabstick]

Was someone on the run with a brand new car bought with a KP Exploration finance, running from debt collectors?

 

[Panda]

Re the truck driver theories, it's always possible this does involve someone who's worked in the transport industry, but it doesn't really make sense that the NSW parts of this crime were committed while someone was driving an interstate truck - long distance travel of the sort we're seeing really isn't at all unusual for people living in remote/regional Australia anyway (especially 20 somethings, or people who are into cars & recreational driving to begin with). When it takes 30 mins to drive from your house to the end of your driveway to get your mail, or it's an overnight trip to check your back fenceline, you can get a very different perspective on distance

Re Belanglo specifically, the trucks going to the quarry would be tippers or truck & dogs that do local work, they don't tend to do interstate runs unless they've just been bought/are being delivered to a work site.

http://www.salesandauctions.com.au/user_images/3216375.jpg

The trucks that do work the interstate routes, like semi's, B-doubles & road trains, would be pretty unlikely to be taken into a Belanglo fire trail at all & certainly not without attracting a massive amount of attention - not even if they dropped their trailer first & drove in bobtail.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/yFKufZ54DlM/hqdefault.jpg

If they did attempt it bobtail while they were on an Adelaide>Canberra run, they'd also have to find somewhere to safely leave their trailer while they drove into the forest & that would draw even more attention - it'd be noticed by every other truck/off work driver passing by because it would be such unusual behaviour (it's a good way to get your trailer stolen).

There are a LOT of trucks in this area of NSW, nearby Sutton Forest has a MASSIVE truck stop & many locals work in the interstate, intrastate & tipper industries (& there are lots of coal truck drivers from the mines around the Southern Highlands/Wollondilly/Wingecarribee/Illawarra too)

- someone in the industry would know this & I don't think they'd take the risk.

If they're an interstate driver they'd have to risk taking their very identifiable truck where it didn't belong & would instantly attract attention from the logging & quarry drivers. If they were a local logging or quarry driver they either had to take their truck into the forest at a time it didn't belong there to avoid attracting the attention of their workmates OR risk transferring Karlie from another vehicle to their truck so they could take the even worse risk of trying to get her up that fire trail during their work hours.

I mean, crazier stuff has happened, but IF there's a truck driver involved in this, IMO he had to have access to a car for Belanglo, I just can't see a driver risking it in a far more obvious & easily identifiable truck - & I'm not sure a semi could even access the fire trails without getting stuck, which is not something you'd want to risk under these circumstances.

:goodpost: Makes perfect sense.

 

[JaneSA]

It was posted on the memorial page .. https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=952054094866395&id=898763036862168&hc_location=ufi

Thanks Mrs G !!!

 

[RougeRogue]

I don't necessarily think it was someone local to Evanston, because I think they ended up there later. We only have evidence of an Evanston address via the ABN which happened later on, when Karlie left Alice she first went to Norlunga then over Canberra, which could mean one of the SA people originated in the Southern Suburbs .. anyway, notice all the suburbs connected to Karlie in SA have been housing trust areas .. this could simply be coincidence or they could all be known to each other, who knows. There is plenty of evidence to suggest the people in SA at other times lived in Salisbury, Holden Hill etc ..

I haven't read anyway about Karlie traveling to Noarlunga, could you post the link please?

 

[JaneSA]

Re the truck driver theories, it's always possible this does involve someone who's worked in the transport industry, but it doesn't really make sense that the NSW parts of this crime were committed while someone was driving an interstate truck - long distance travel of the sort we're seeing really isn't at all unusual for people living in remote/regional Australia anyway (especially 20 somethings, or people who are into cars & recreational driving to begin with). When it takes 30 mins to drive from your house to the end of your driveway to get your mail, or it's an overnight trip to check your back fenceline, you can get a very different perspective on distance

Re Belanglo specifically, the trucks going to the quarry would be tippers or truck & dogs that do local work, they don't tend to do interstate runs unless they've just been bought/are being delivered to a work site.

http://www.salesandauctions.com.au/user_images/3216375.jpg

The trucks that do work the interstate routes, like semi's, B-doubles & road trains, would be pretty unlikely to be taken into a Belanglo fire trail at all & certainly not without attracting a massive amount of attention - not even if they dropped their trailer first & drove in bobtail.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/yFKufZ54DlM/hqdefault.jpg

If they did attempt it bobtail while they were on an Adelaide>Canberra run, they'd also have to find somewhere to safely leave their trailer while they drove into the forest & that would draw even more attention - it'd be noticed by every other truck/off work driver passing by because it would be such unusual behaviour (it's a good way to get your trailer stolen).

There are a LOT of trucks in this area of NSW, nearby Sutton Forest has a MASSIVE truck stop & many locals work in the interstate, intrastate & tipper industries (& there are lots of coal truck drivers from the mines around the Southern Highlands/Wollondilly/Wingecarribee/Illawarra too)

- someone in the industry would know this & I don't think they'd take the risk.

If they're an interstate driver they'd have to risk taking their very identifiable truck where it didn't belong & would instantly attract attention from the logging & quarry drivers. If they were a local logging or quarry driver they either had to take their truck into the forest at a time it didn't belong there to avoid attracting the attention of their workmates OR risk transferring Karlie from another vehicle to their truck so they could take the even worse risk of trying to get her up that fire trail during their work hours.

I mean, crazier stuff has happened, but IF there's a truck driver involved in this, IMO he had to have access to a car for Belanglo, I just can't see a driver risking it in a far more obvious & easily identifiable truck - & I'm not sure a semi could even access the fire trails without getting stuck, which is not something you'd want to risk under these circumstances.

Gotta say, I agree a truck driver is rather unlikely.