AUS - Khandalyce Kiara Pearce (Wynarka) and mum Karlie Pearce-Stevenson (Belanglo) #7

[JLZ]

most likely. it would be difficult to believe this bloke had qualifications as a professional carer, and was sent there by some professional agency.. .. like a nurse, or something in that line, .. it was probably convenient to both he and Connie Duffy at the time..

I was questioning the inference that his information about Karlie and drug money must have come from the imposter.

 

[Puggle]

if there is any doubt of Holdom's 'capabilities' it doesn't make any sense that he is where he is currently. Even As I Type. If the suggestion is being floated that he has some intellectual handicap or disability, that would have to be a very recent diagnosis, considering his situation.

Lol.....I don't even understand why we have a judicial system at all....

 

[JaneSA]

Khandalyce photographed by HP at Show n Shine Blatherskite Park, Alice Springs NT (27-28 /07/08)

Do we have any way of knowing if Karlie also attended that event, or if HP took Khandalyce?
Anyone know?

 

[Bohemian]

This is the link to the blog for Karlie's and WS Khandalyce's Timeline:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/en...-Kiara-Pearce-and-mum-Karlie-Pearce-Stevenson

I've put it in a blog, which I'll update and you can make changes in the comments under it if you like. Then, when we're all happy with it, Makara will put it into the Media/Timeline thread for quick reference.

 

[Bohemian]

Khandalyce photographed by HP at Show n Shine Blatherskite Park, Alice Springs NT (27-28 /07/08)

Do we have any way of knowing if Karlie also attended that event, or if HP took Khandalyce?
Anyone know?

Don't know, Jane. Only photos of Khandalyce courtesy of FB in MSM reports. And HP as her account was the original source. I assume this means she was the photog.

 

[Trooper]

I was questioning the inference that his information about Karlie and drug money must have come from the imposter.

I take your point.. but to put it in perspective.. .. there is no reason for anyone to be thinking that Karlie is a drug runner, a buyer who doesn't seal the buy but instead scarpers with the money, and has a bounty on her head UNTIL her family begin searching for her in earnest.. As it happens , this story begins it's appearance as soon as Karlie is actually, but unknown to anyone else except the killers, dead. .. It is Karlie's death that provokes the story. No body knows this except the killers, though. The people of Karlies family who hear this story take it as an explanation of why Karlie wont be contacting them on a regular basis. Neat, ey?

Until it is suspected that Colleen, Karlie's mum is intent on making an official Missing Persons report, no one is making contact or telling yarns re Karlie the New Girl on the Block as Alice Springs very busy latest drug supplier.

Then the impersonator appears on the scene. Because, it has to be the impersonator because Karlie is dead. So, probably, is Khandalyce.

The point of the impersonator is to stop Karlie from becoming an Official Missing Person. And it works. Colleen is calmed.. saddened that Karlie isn't coming home, but calmed and removes the request to the police. As an aside, she also deposits some money in Karlie's account, a bonus for the impersonator.

Karlie hadn't contacted home at all. As far as is known, according to the police, the only contact made was by the impersonator. Either by voice or text. And it had to be the impersonator because by the time 'Karlie' made contact , the real Karlie was dead.

 

[visioneye]

Other dichotomies that bother me:

Carefully covering up 2 murders with ensuing subterfuge for 7 years VS keeping an out-of-date bank card unconcealed in a wallet.

Concealing child's remains for 7 years VS dumping them with her belongings in a public place.

Concealing the death of a child, again for 7 years VS keeping her birth certificate.

IMO these are not actions of one person, but more than one person.

Or one very lucky, lazy (crazy dumb) murderer, who after the initial killing in Belangelo .. . couldn't be bothered getting rid of the rest of the evidence (or was in denial)... till someone else (maybe accidentally) did..
My thoughts however remain that motives are irrelevant.. except to lawyers

 

[JLZ]

The people of Karlies family who hear this story take it as an explanation of why Karlie wont be contacting them on a regular basis.

Do we know that the family received this explanation, as opposed to the not-Karlie leaving an angry message that she was fine, and just leave her alone?

 

[Trooper]

Do we know that the family received this explanation, as opposed to the not-Karlie leaving an angry message that she was fine, and just leave her alone?

could have been both. neither is problematic. what ever the message was, it worked, Colleen did, without doubt, invalidate the Missing Persons report to the police, and that was that., Colleen was persuaded, by either a voice or a text, I suspect voice, with a ringin 2yr old in the background, telling Colleen she, 'Karlie' was fine, just on the run , or whatever it took to get Colleen to back off.

 

[sleepinoz]

Can I ask that members, if you snip a post can you please advise that you have done so (RSBM) and possibly why - the whole context of the original post is lost if it's not complete.

TIA

 

[Trooper]

the call to Colleen was essential, really. it was a terrific risk but it had to be done, and it had to work. For some time now, the killer/s have been using Karlie's bank account keycard , spending the money deposited by the Gov for Khandalyce, etc.. Someone 's wages , too, apparently went into Karlie's account, but the killer/s have left an electronic footprint all over Karlie's account, and there is some urgency, I would think , on the part of the Killer/s to keep this element of the murders of Karlie and Khandalyce as far from the rude , bright light of interfering enquiries as is humanly possible.

 

[Makara]

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[JLZ]

Bohemian, on the timeline where it says "Missing Person report is withdrawn 9 months later", should that be 9 days?

 

[sosocurious]

could have been both. neither is problematic. what ever the message was, it worked, Colleen did, without doubt, invalidate the Missing Persons report to the police, and that was that., Colleen was persuaded, by either a voice or a text, I suspect voice, with a ringin 2yr old in the background, telling Colleen she, 'Karlie' was fine, just on the run , or whatever it took to get Colleen to back off.

Des Bray video 27 October
1:27

We know from time to time the message bank on Karlies phone was accessed and in response and we know that offenders sent some replies to theses text messages confirming Karlie was alive and well but elsewhere.
Some text were sent to family....................

On at least a couple of occassions that we know of maybe more. That a female falsley represented herself to be Karlie in communication to family and friends. certainly some of those communications induced a family member to send money...............

https://www.police.sa.gov.au/sa-pol...y-mallee-local-service-area/task-force-mallee

 

[Bohemian]

Bohemian, on the timeline where it says "Missing Person report is withdrawn 9 months later", should that be 9 days?

Originally, I had it as 9 days later, then read a post that said 9 months later. Do you have a link that can help with the interval of time between when it was lodged to when it was rescinded, JLZ? Thanks for bringing that point up. Timeline is in draft form and nowhere near finished so I really appreciate any corrections or additional information.

 

[sosocurious]

Originally, I had it as 9 days later, then read a post that said 9 months later. Do you have a link that can help with the interval of time between when it was lodged to when it was rescinded, JLZ? Thanks for bringing that point up. Timeline is in draft form and nowhere near finished so I really appreciate any corrections or additional information.

It is known that Karlie’s mother raised a missing persons report on 4 September, 2009, in Alice Springs and normal initial investigation inquiries at that time indicated signs of active life,” he said.

“The investigation was subsequently filed on 10 September, 2009, after Karlie’s mum withdrew her concern as she advised that she had received contact from Karlie, that she was safe and did not want further contact.”

http://www.news.com.au/national/cri...90ebd808f?sv=bd6ba9c4bf0a7a29ce8c0a98e9a7cdda

 

[JLZ]

Imposter in wheelchair dates were 24/6/10 (bank) and 15/12/10 (Centrelink).

Karlie's bank account accessed for the last time in March 2012.

I don't think you mention--Karlie's phone last used mid-2011.

 

[JLZ]

Timeline again.

DH stopped by police with female passenger etc--January 2013 according to both SMH and Maitland Mercury.

 

[Makara]

Bohemian, for your timeline.

In relation to Karlie's mobile phone, those involved in her murder retained her phone and it was used until mid 2011.

The last payments through Centrelink were in 2011.

Karlie's bank account was finally closed in 2015 after a lengthy period of inactivity.

 

[Bohemian]

It is known that Karlie’s mother raised a missing persons report on 4 September, 2009, in Alice Springs and normal initial investigation inquiries at that time indicated signs of active life,” he said.

“The investigation was subsequently filed on 10 September, 2009, after Karlie’s mum withdrew her concern as she advised that she had received contact from Karlie, that she was safe and did not want further contact.”

http://www.news.com.au/national/cri...90ebd808f?sv=bd6ba9c4bf0a7a29ce8c0a98e9a7cdda

Ta darling soso