AUS - Khandalyce Kiara Pearce (Wynarka) and mum Karlie Pearce-Stevenson (Belanglo) #8

[JaneSA]

I clarified my post. I realised I had aid multiple ABNs when I meant multiple trading names - Sorry.

 

[Makara]

http://abncheck.com.au/abn/94740016021


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As you already stated up thread Wolfinator, there is no evidence that DH registered the ABN in the link you posted.

 

[Wolfinator]

There is only one ABN number registered in DH's name and alias. Not multiple ABN's. That ABN was last updated on 23 September 2015. IMO it was impossible for the DH we're discussing to be able to update that ABN of his own accord but due to the laws of sub judice I can't elaborate any further.

http://abr.business.gov.au/SearchByAbnHistory.aspx?abn=56852820171

An accountant can update an ABN. So too can the ATO at their discretion. Directions can also be taken from overseas and other places as well.... Cancellations/updates can also be made by someone with a power of attorney too.


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[Trooper]

LAPPIN LANDSCAPING 11 May 2005 17 Jul 2006 ....... did he even know Karlie in 2006?? or 2005? I don't think Khandalyce was born before July 2006?? I don't get the connection here.

 

[Makara]

Yep, with 3 trading name as detailed here: http://abr.business.gov.au/SearchByAbnHistory.aspx?SearchText=56852820171.

I don't think he had multiple ABNs, just trading names under the one ABN.

I'm only going by what you posted.

I agree Wolfie, and like you, I have never suggested that DH registered the ABN. AFAIK there is nothing to support the notion that he did.
But someone did, and my question is why the name has "exploration drilling" attached to it and to what purpose
We know DH's genuine ABNs were all related to labouring, landscaping and detailing; nothing about drilling or exploration.

BBM.

ETA: I see you've now edited your original post above.

 

[Trooper]

maybe he thinks he can spell in French and calls himself Lappin thinking it means rabbit, CODE for underground warrior or some such rubbish, when the correct spelling is lapin.. who knows. ..it doesn't matter. People name things for reasons that are unfathomable.

I cant figure out why he called himself Marshall, perhaps he had a deep feeling for well made car battery's, who knows, .. the fact of him changing his name is in and of itself , dodgy, and suspicious and in my opinion, since this was his operating method, one of petty criminality. There doesn't appear to be any other reason for him to change his name, except to wriggle out from under some oppressing hindrance, placed by Authority on him.

 

[Puggle]

The ABN's being mentioned are all contained within a singular report from memory - pretty sure it was a "history" report... and the report also included a mention of a name change in February 2007 from Holdom to Bishop relevant to those ABN's.....

Given the fact that we have been made aware via MSM of his name changes.....I would be hard pressed to think it was someone other than our current *alleged* killer's ABN

ETA: removed the "s" from the end of ABN

 

[Trooper]

I don't know why he changed his name to Bishop ,either, unless he had a subconscious yearning to be raised to the purple with an eye on the mitre and reside in the Vatican. .. who knows...

 

[Estelle]

Please excuse my ignorance but would they have needed Karlie's pin nos to access her accounts? If so, could they have got them from her before she was murdered? For example, the withdrawal made soon after the date she was murdered? As they had her ID, I guess they could have claimed that they had forgotten the pin no and needed to change it.

 

[KG1]

Interesting form I came across when I dropped into new Centrelink/Medicare/Child Support joint office recently:

'Confirming your identity'

http://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/forms/ss231

Current draft is 8 - 10/03/15
Form Ref: SS231.1503
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Also, this may come in handy:

http://guides.dss.gov.au/guide-social-security-law/2/2

'Guides to Social Policy Law
Guide to Social Security Law
Version 1.217 - Released 9 November 2015

2.2 Verification
Introduction

This chapter explains the different types of verification required during the claim lodgement process. It also explains the SPECIFIC VERIFICATION REQUIREMENTS for each payment/benefit.

In this chapter

This chapter contains the following sections:

2.2.1 Verifying Identity
2.2.2 Verifying Personal Details
2.2.3 Verifying Financial Information
2.2.4 Verifying Residence
2.2.5 Verifying Membership of a Couple
2.2.6 Verifying a Death
2.2.7 Newstart & Youth Allowance Verification
2.2.8 Other Labour Market & Older Students Verification
2.2.9 Retirement & Widows Verification
2.2.10 Families & Parenting Verification
2.2.11 Disability & Carer Verification
2.2.12 Special Payments Verification
2.2.13 Supplementary Benefits Verification
2.2.14 Clean Energy Payments Verification

Last Reviewed: 11 November 2013'
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For the 'legal eagles', here is the complete series of the Social Security (Administration) Act 1999:

https://www.comlaw.gov.au/Series/C2004A00580

Useful for historical reference as the relevant Act has been regularly superseded so there may have been different (lesser?) identity verification requirements during the period of the alleged fraud.

Department of Human Services (Centrelink included), have very much tightened up identity requirements since July 1 this year. I have very recently been 'thru the mill', spending hours on the telephone and attending twice in person (2 1/2 hours each time) trying to identify a relative for whom I am the administrator. . Unbelievable! This person has never held a driver's licence, passport or any form of photo id. Medicare card is no longer acceptable as part of id as DHS issue this card themselves. Full birth certificate is also not enough on its own. All this person held was a Disability Support pension card and a Medicare card. Not good enough. However, after all those hours, on my last attendance, the staff member was informed by another area that no other id was required, as all I was trying to do was to change the relative from DSP to Age pension due to their age now qualifying them for Age pension. The relative had been a client since 1982 on DSP. There was no change in pension rate involved. I could not believe what I had to go through though.
If the rules had been this stringent in 2008 to 2012, a certain person may not have got away with fraudulent attendance at Centrelink office in SA.

 

[KG1]

How do you know that they were genuine ABN's?

They are genuine ABNs issued by the ATO. Google 'ABN Lookup' and you will find that site. The site is the Australian Business Register (ABR) and is part of the ATO. All genuine ABNs are listed here with the name of the ABN holder, date ABN issues from, area, whether GST registered, and historical details, included changes to name, area, GST status etc and cancellations.

 

[Puggle]

Please excuse my ignorance but would they have needed Karlie's passwords to access her accounts? If so, could they have got them from her before she was murdered? For example, the withdrawal made soon after the date she was murdered? As they had her ID, I guess they could have claimed that they had forgotten the pin no or password and needed to change it.

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Estelle I don't think it's ignorant at all to ask a question when your not sure.

For the keycard withdrawals all they would have needed was her pin number...

I believe .... and am welcome to be corrected. If they went to the bank for some other reason....from personal experience I have handed over my keycard and the bank person just brings up all my details...I've never been asked to verbally give my account number (Two home loan applications In the past 5 years)......actually this is has just highlighted a big flaw in their system for me...

I will have to remember to write down/record in detail any of my further dealings with the bank in future...

 

[Makara]

They are genuine ABNs issued by the ATO. Google 'ABN Lookup' and you will find that site. The site is the Australian Business Register (ABR) and is part of the ATO. All genuine ABNs are listed here with the name of the ABN holder, date ABN issues from, area, whether GST registered, and historical details, included changes to name, area, GST status etc and cancellations.

Thank you KG1. I know how ABN's work.

 

[JLZ]

Checking the pin number might be the explanation for the phone call/s from Belanglo.

 

[Trooper]

Checking the pin number might be the explanation for the phone call/s from Belanglo.

calling the accomplice who is waiting at the bank with the card? .. . not impossible, and not even improbable..

 

[Trooper]

the call out from the Belanglo forest has to be right up there with Stupid Things Your Dumb Murderer Does.... at the trial, its almost certain we will all learn who that call was made to!.. I will be so disappointed if he was that certifiably stupid that he rang for a pizza delivery or some such frippery.

 

[Warshawski]

Thanks Jane.

http://abncheck.com.au/abn/94740016021

I found the choice of business name interesting, not the 'Exploration Drilling' part but the 'Kp'

registered by (supposedly) Karlie Jade Stevenson, as a Sole Trader, I wonder why not Ks Exploration Drilling - eerily KP is Khandalyce's initials.

 

[Trooper]

Thanks Jane.

http://abncheck.com.au/abn/94740016021

I found the choice of business name interesting, not the 'Exploration Drilling' part but the 'Kp'

registered by (supposedly) Karlie Jade Stevenson, as a Sole Trader, I wonder why not Ks Exploration Drilling - eerily KP is Khandalyce's initials.

I found the dates on this ABN interesting.... Active from 01/01/2011 <------- Karlie, and Khandalyce have been dead for just a tad over 3 years by then.. . he knows this,.. I reckon, in my opinion.. the Kp was a Freudian slip... the kind of unconscious stuff the guilty mind slips up on.

 

[Puggle]

Checking the pin number might be the explanation for the phone call/s from Belanglo.

Ohhh that is a terribly sad thought......

It would be interesting if we knew if there was a balance enquiry on either the 14th or 15th...

Sad thought ...but good questioning JLZ on that Idea....???

 

[Puggle]

I found the dates on this ABN interesting.... Active from 01/01/2011 <------- Karlie, and Khandalyce have been dead for just a tad over 3 years by then.. . he knows this,.. I reckon, in my opinion.. the Kp was a Freudian slip... the kind of unconscious stuff the guilty mind slips up on.

Arrrgghhh and now the penny drops.... I'll have to disagree Trooper. I don't believe..*IMO* this is a simple Freudian Slip.

Think Bigger. You have murder. You have Fraud .... Registration of ABN company name ......what is the purpose of the ABN???