Found Deceased AUS - Tayla Spies,29, white 2017 dual cab Toyota Hilux I’d also missing. Left a hotel in Daley & travelled west to Surat, Queensland, 2 Feb 25

[TMich6811]

Self harm makes sense, except for the property owner saying the vehicle wasn't seen there 2 weeks ago.

Why does her being alive but missing later engaging in self harm or OD seem so much more unlikely than someone taking her or hurting her and later returning the car to an area to get caught? It seems more likely to me

 

[chief quimby]

Shortened by me.

I agree with the car, not necessarily the remains. I believe they could have been there for 2 months, given they're now "remains" and not a "body". I'm not certain at what point police call a dead person a "body" or "remains". I just googled (Lord help me if my search history is ever checked!) and this is what I found:

• Body: Refers to the whole physical structure of a living or deceased person.
  
  
• Remains: Specifically refers to the physical parts or remnants of a deceased body, including bones, soft tissues, or any other parts that are left behind after death.

So if the term was used correctly, her entire body wasn't there. This suggests to me either some pretty gruesome possibilities, or that it's been there for a long time and nature has taken its course.

I hate to compare Tayla to a kangaroo, but my only experience with a large being decomposing is a kangaroo. I've seen lots of dead ones on the side of the road and even the big boys don't take long until they're almost gone, bar the bones.

Regardless, it's very sad and her death will impact many.

You have really pointed out a fact which I thought about but couldn't explain in words like you have

 

[chief quimby]

What was the purpose of the quick Surat trip?

Perhaps to drop something off or pay for something?

What happened 30kms north of Surat on the drive home?

According to TN, she was there with him just before the Condamine turn-off

Why didn’t TN realise sooner that Tayla wasn’t travelling along the road towards Roma with him?

Perhaps she said, "I'll just see to this, and be home later"

Why didn’t TN know after meeting Tayla 30kms north of Surat, that she or her car had turned back towards Surat?

Perhaps because she turned right and took the roma-condamine road to get to the yuleba-surat road after telling him, "I'm just going to do this"

What was TN thinking and what did he do when he arrived home but Tayla failed to arrive?

Hmmm I need a rum, what's on the tele, why is she so late, I'm hungry, meh I'll get me a pizza, Zzzzzzzz oh wtf, she hasn't got home and it's morning... ???

Did anyone witness TN arriving in Roma that afternoon?

30kms north of Surat could be the highway around Tingun, or it could be (slightly more north west) the private property where the car was found. Both are about 30kms from Surat.

Yes, roughly that distance give or take a few kilometres...

What is TN’s job?

leave it with me

How does someone know a property is uninhabited, and feels safe enough to enter, possibly even twice. A tradie? A local? A friend of a friend of a neighbour?

Because what are the chances the cocky is gonna be up that exact track at 12pm on a sunday?? Not much. He's got 25,000 acres to attend to, and chances are he's at home eating lunch, that's how they go about it out here...

Hope this answers some of your questions...

 

[Centaurus]

Tayla's sister has made a heart felt update confirming that the body found is that of her sister. Most of her upset and anger is being directed towards insensitive comments on social media. She is also furious that the media released the finding of the body within 10 minutes of contacting Tayla's Next of Kin. She felt it was insufficient time to share the news privately with loved ones. What I really noticed was an absence of anger towards who might have done this to her. It is pure speculation but I suspect that perhaps the circumstances indicate self harm as opposed to homicide. Only time will tell if this assumption is correct.

I agree with this. Just the way her sister's statement was worded, it seems the death was self-inflicted one way or another.

 

[Rocket333]

Can anyone local confirm whether the Condamine turnoff is the Yuleba-Surat Road please? Are they one and the same?

• Ute on cctv in Surat at 11.10am.
• “Last seen about 11:30am Sunday roughly 30 k from Surat Roma side.”
• “Last seen driving on the Carnarvon Highway, just south of the Condamine turnoff heading towards Roma between 10am and 1pm.”
• Last phone ping was from the area at 12.13pm.

Riddle over final moments of missing young Queensland mum

The riddle of missing Queensland mum Tayla Spies' last moments have come to the fore as her disappearance entered its sixteenth day and police released details of the vast area they are searching.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Rocket333]

“I would be looking towards the yaliba forestry lots of tracks out there... and if her boyfriend was into pigging and fishing she might have thought she knew a short cut.

Queensland Police Service
Your information may be able to assist with this investigation. Please contact Policelink on 131 444.”

Queensland Police Service

 

[BreakingNews]

Why does her being alive but missing later engaging in self harm or OD seem so much more unlikely than someone taking her or hurting her and later returning the car to an area to get caught? It seems more likely to me

I believe she wasn't alive after the missing date. Self harm in the position she was found. I believe her vehicle was in the same place as it was found. All there from the day she went missing. Someone returning the car at a later date just doesn't make sense.
Maybe she was involved with some shady people, but just maybe they had nothing to do with her death. MOO.

 

[HoneyBunOne]

You have really pointed out a fact which I thought about but couldn't explain in words like you have

Thanks. Some days the words flow well, other days I'm lucky to remember my name.

 

[HoneyBunOne]

I'm not on board with a self inflicted death, and I don't believe the car has been there since day 1.

I just don't see the timing for it being right, unless something really major happened just prior. Like learning something devastating at that meet up near Surat, perhaps related to her kids.

Regardless, I don't see her driving onto private property, through several gates, and then walking a kilometre away to do the deed. There would likely have to be some form of evidence of a self inflicted death at the scene, yet police have not said anything like "no further enquiries are being made" or "we aren't looking for any suspects" , or putting the numbers for Lifeline and the like at the bottom of any statements which seem to be the case when suicide is the cause of death.

IF she was going to kill herself, surely a remote location in one of the nearby state parks would be more likely than private property? Unless it was a gut reaction to some news or an event, doing it on the way home from a weekend away, with her boyfriend driving the same route home, is just really odd to me.

Police said something to the effect of there being items in the car that didn't hold up well under the conditions. Not that they were in disarray. This was before they had entered the car, so it must have been visible from outside. To me, this indicates food or drink spoilage. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't she grab a drink when she fuelled up? I recall something like an iced coffee, which would definitely spoil after 2 months in the heat. Not sure if a sealed bottle would explode at some point. I do wonder if there were other food items inside that were easily seen to be in a very bad state. Snacks for the trip? A few groceries for home?

Anyway, I still suspect foul play and some dodgy life choices.

 

[mishy66]

I'm not on board with a self inflicted death, and I don't believe the car has been there since day 1.

I just don't see the timing for it being right, unless something really major happened just prior. Like learning something devastating at that meet up near Surat, perhaps related to her kids.

Regardless, I don't see her driving onto private property, through several gates, and then walking a kilometre away to do the deed. There would likely have to be some form of evidence of a self inflicted death at the scene, yet police have not said anything like "no further enquiries are being made" or "we aren't looking for any suspects" , or putting the numbers for Lifeline and the like at the bottom of any statements which seem to be the case when suicide is the cause of death.

IF she was going to kill herself, surely a remote location in one of the nearby state parks would be more likely than private property? Unless it was a gut reaction to some news or an event, doing it on the way home from a weekend away, with her boyfriend driving the same route home, is just really odd to me.

Police said something to the effect of there being items in the car that didn't hold up well under the conditions. Not that they were in disarray. This was before they had entered the car, so it must have been visible from outside. To me, this indicates food or drink spoilage. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't she grab a drink when she fuelled up? I recall something like an iced coffee, which would definitely spoil after 2 months in the heat. Not sure if a sealed bottle would explode at some point. I do wonder if there were other food items inside that were easily seen to be in a very bad state. Snacks for the trip? A few groceries for home?

Anyway, I still suspect foul play and some dodgy life choices.

Agree 100% with you.

IMO this is no suicide case. It "might" end up as that after the investigation but HOPEFULLY the investigations, which hopefully would include homicide investigations as well, will get to the bottom of it.

Lots of things kept lids on by the family IMO

And I agree in regard to the possible food etc which was probably rotten having been left in the car so long.

The police had said they didnt enter the car, only towed it to Roma. They said nothing about it being in disarray.

 

[mishy66]

“I would be looking towards the yaliba forestry lots of tracks out there... and if her boyfriend was into pigging and fishing she might have thought she knew a short cut.

Queensland Police Service
Your information may be able to assist with this investigation. Please contact Policelink on 131 444.”

Queensland Police Service

Everyone out in these small towns know this forestry and the other forests. Hundreds of people out that way are pig hunters and camp in those forests. Of course Tayla knew all the short cuts, she was raised out in those lands and had family and friends who pig hunt and camp and fish and swim ìn the dams, go trail bike riding, take country road picnics, etc.

I dont think someones comment on FB justifies they possibly know something. Every man in the lands would have been saying, Look in the forests. Its one of the first places people out there think of.

But sure,
Easily a place someone could have taken her.

Easily a place if she wanted to take her life, she had access to and knew well.

Some are suggesting she may have taken her life by driving onto someones property, parking her car into an open field, walking 1 km away from her car ( why not do it in the car ?) and all this effort after buying a drink at a servo, calling into someones house to meet "friends" with TN, changing into a crisp white shirt, to take her own life?

Not buying that one.

Something happened at that meet up and then it all went to *#*##

JMO

 

[mishy66]

The yuleba-surat road is a unsealed short cut to surat. It runs through it... It's a large cattle property... they can be huge out that way, like 50,000 acres, it's down the orange looking road in my earlier post with the pics of yuleba creek

@Rocket333

Maps are earlier post

 

[HoneyBunOne]

I'm not on board with a self inflicted death, and I don't believe the car has been there since day 1.

I just don't see the timing for it being right, unless something really major happened just prior. Like learning something devastating at that meet up near Surat, perhaps related to her kids.

Regardless, I don't see her driving onto private property, through several gates, and then walking a kilometre away to do the deed. There would likely have to be some form of evidence of a self inflicted death at the scene, yet police have not said anything like "no further enquiries are being made" or "we aren't looking for any suspects" , or putting the numbers for Lifeline and the like at the bottom of any statements which seem to be the case when suicide is the cause of death.

IF she was going to kill herself, surely a remote location in one of the nearby state parks would be more likely than private property? Unless it was a gut reaction to some news or an event, doing it on the way home from a weekend away, with her boyfriend driving the same route home, is just really odd to me.

Police said something to the effect of there being items in the car that didn't hold up well under the conditions. Not that they were in disarray. This was before they had entered the car, so it must have been visible from outside. To me, this indicates food or drink spoilage. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't she grab a drink when she fuelled up? I recall something like an iced coffee, which would definitely spoil after 2 months in the heat. Not sure if a sealed bottle would explode at some point. I do wonder if there were other food items inside that were easily seen to be in a very bad state. Snacks for the trip? A few groceries for home?

Anyway, I still suspect foul play and some dodgy life choices.

Bold by me.
I just found the footage and it looks more like a bottle of coke she bought at the service station. Again, I wonder if that would explode after being in the heat of an enclosed car for up to 2 months.

 

[mishy66]

Bold by me.
I just found the footage and it looks more like a bottle of coke she bought at the service station. Again, I wonder if that would explode after being in the heat of an enclosed car for up to 2 months.

Given she was in Dalby for the weekend, passes through towns, chances are, like all country folk, she shopped for food to take home.

JMO

 

[BreakingNews]

Given she was in Dalby for the weekend, passes through towns, chances are, like all country folk, she shopped for food to take home.

JMO

Why would you shop for food over a 3 hr drive from home when you also knew you were stopping to visit some people.

 

[HoneyBunOne]

Why would you shop for food over a 3 hr drive from home when you also knew you were stopping to visit some people.

Why not? She might have grabbed things like bread/muffins/crumpets/pastries for breakfast the next day, salad items for dinner, or a cake/slice for dessert. Maybe grabbed a bunch of flowers too. All these things would survive a trip home, and a visit with friends, but not up to 2 months in a hot car.

 

[mishy66]

Why would you shop for food over a 3 hr drive from home when you also knew you were stopping to visit some people.

It's only a suggestion
A long drive home and no one buys snacks? Or food that they can't maybe get in a smaller country town?
The meet up, by calculations was very short, so I can't see this meet up as a sit down cuppa tea catch up. But that's just my opinion

 

[chief quimby]

I'm not on board with a self inflicted death, and I don't believe the car has been there since day 1.

I just don't see the timing for it being right, unless something really major happened just prior. Like learning something devastating at that meet up near Surat, perhaps related to her kids.

Regardless, I don't see her driving onto private property, through several gates, and then walking a kilometre away to do the deed. There would likely have to be some form of evidence of a self inflicted death at the scene, yet police have not said anything like "no further enquiries are being made" or "we aren't looking for any suspects" , or putting the numbers for Lifeline and the like at the bottom of any statements which seem to be the case when suicide is the cause of death.

IF she was going to kill herself, surely a remote location in one of the nearby state parks would be more likely than private property? Unless it was a gut reaction to some news or an event, doing it on the way home from a weekend away, with her boyfriend driving the same route home, is just really odd to me.

Police said something to the effect of there being items in the car that didn't hold up well under the conditions. Not that they were in disarray. This was before they had entered the car, so it must have been visible from outside. To me, this indicates food or drink spoilage. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't she grab a drink when she fuelled up? I recall something like an iced coffee, which would definitely spoil after 2 months in the heat. Not sure if a sealed bottle would explode at some point. I do wonder if there were other food items inside that were easily seen to be in a very bad state. Snacks for the trip? A few groceries for home?

Anyway, I still suspect foul play and some dodgy life choices.

Yep, agree... I'm with you % ... someone did this to her....

 

[chief quimby]

Why would you shop for food over a 3 hr drive from home when you also knew you were stopping to visit some people.

Because dalby has aldi and coles and roma does not.

Plus by her times caught on camera, she only "visited people" for 15 minutes...

 

[chief quimby]

Can anyone local confirm whether the Condamine turnoff is the Yuleba-Surat Road please? Are they one and the same?

• Ute on cctv in Surat at 11.10am.
• “Last seen about 11:30am Sunday roughly 30 k from Surat Roma side.”
• “Last seen driving on the Carnarvon Highway, just south of the Condamine turnoff heading towards Roma between 10am and 1pm.”
• Last phone ping was from the area at 12.13pm.

Riddle over final moments of missing young Queensland mum

The riddle of missing Queensland mum Tayla Spies' last moments have come to the fore as her disappearance entered its sixteenth day and police released details of the vast area they are searching.

www.dailymail.co.uk

If you read my earlier posts, I have drawn many maps and included photos. I not sure how to repost, so just go back to like pages 3-8 or so.