Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 #14 *Arrest*

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I was just pondering - two pretty and clever young women, Ms Rogers and Ms Patterson, nee Scutter. What very different life paths they took.
 
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I think @Detechtive was possibly alluding to the reason here, but not able to comment until after the trial. Yes, did they check for an enrolment? What was the name of the university/educational institute she was considering applying to? I call rubbish on the story too, would've been good to know either way.
Probably another artifice by a compulsive liar.
 
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Three Dim Sims, a hot dog, a coffee, a ham, cheese, and tomato sandwich, a sweet chili chicken wrap, and an entire bag of sour confectionery have entered the chat...
Woah! I would have to do a bush poo if I dared to consume so much crap.

Did she honestly think we (the cops, the public, the jury etc.) wouldn’t find out about every little thing she ate, purchased or did on that day?
 
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So, in theory, if found guilty could she be given time for murder, plus time for perjury?

I don't believe so. In fact about the only time I recall perjury being prosecuted is in Royal Commissions where Counsel Assisting usually has evidence to prove that a witness is lying. (The street saying with RC's is that they don't ask questions unless they already have the answers.)

I gather that perjury cases in VIC are rare, but here's one in 2022:

Makaela Bacon, you have pleaded guilty to five charges of perjury contrary to s 314(1)of the Crimes Act 1958 (Vic).

 
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So, in theory, if found guilty could she be given time for murder, plus time for perjury?
They won't bother with the Perjury when she will spend the rest of her miserable life behind bars.
IMO
 
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Prosecutors have told Erin Patterson's triple-murder trial jury the mother of two carried out a "sinister deception" on her in-laws by using a "nourishing meal" as the vehicle for lethal doses of death cap mushrooms.

Ms Patterson, 50, has pleaded not guilty to three counts of murder and one of attempted murder over a beef Wellington lunch served to four relatives at her regional Victorian home in 2023.

As the trial entered its eighth week on Monday, lead prosecutor Nanette Rogers SC began delivering her closing address to the jury.

The trial of Erin Patterson, who stands accused of using a poisoned meal to murder three relatives, continues.

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Cancer lie 'planted' in advance of lunch, prosecution alleges​

Dr Rogers told the jury the prosecution alleged Ms Patterson had engaged in four substantial acts of deception while carrying out her crimes.

The prosecutor said the first of these was her fabricated cancer claim to the lunch guests, who the court heard were told she had been diagnosed with cancer — although Ms Patterson told the court she had believed she had only implied she may need ovarian cancer treatment in the future.

"The accused planted the seed of this lie far in advance," Dr Rogers said, referring to evidence that Ms Patterson had told her parents-in-law about tests on her elbow in the lead-up to the lunch.

A woman with glassesand grey curly hair in a green coat and yellow scarf with a blonde woman in a red coat, both pulling bags.

Prosecutor Nanette Rogers SC (left) is summing up her case against Erin Patterson. (ABC News)

The prosecutor told the jury Ms Patterson was "setting up a fiction" that she was facing a cancer diagnosis, which was made more convincing by her having "put in research" on the conditions about which she told her guests she was concerned.

"Why on earth would she tell such a lie?" Dr Rogers rhetorically asked the jury.

"She did not think her lunch guests would live to reveal it. Her lie would die with them,"
Dr Rogers said.
She told the jury that they could discount Ms Patterson's evidence that she had organised the lunch to thank her relatives and show them her garden.

She also told the jury that the absence of Ms Patterson's children from the lunch was "entirely the accused's plan" to ensure "the children would not be harmed by the poison she was about to serve".

Prosecutor outlines claim that death cap mushrooms were 'secreted' in lunch​

Dr Rogers said the second and most "critical" deception alleged by the prosecution was that Ms Patterson "secreted" the death cap mushrooms into the individual beef Wellingtons.

"The sinister deception was to use a nourishing meal as the vehicle to deliver the deadly poison," Dr Rogers said.

Dr Rogers said the very design of the meal, in which a large beef Wellington log outlined in a cookbook recipe was substituted for individually parcelled beef Wellingtons, was a "deliberate choice" by Ms Patterson.

"It allowed her to give the appearance of sharing in the same meal while ensuring she did not consume … [a beef Wellington] laced with death cap mushrooms," the prosecutor told the jury.

Composite image of two women and two men, all smiling.

Erin Patterson is accused of poisoning Ian and Heather Wilkinson, and Don and Gail Patterson. Ian Wilkinson (left) was the only survivor of the Leongatha lunch. (Supplied)

Dr Rogers said while there was "no direct evidence as to where the accused sourced the death cap mushrooms", Ms Patterson was "familiar" with the iNaturalist website and had made previous visits to the site which showed where the toxic fungi were growing.

"The accused did not navigate to other types of mushrooms, she did not meander about the website. She went directly to death cap mushrooms," Dr Rogers said.

Phone data was used to identify to the jury two "potential" visits by Ms Patterson to areas where death cap mushrooms had been identified in Outtrim and Loch.

The prosecutor alleged that after the accused went to Loch to source death cap mushrooms, a photo taken on one of Ms Patterson's devices showed "the very death cap mushrooms she collected ... in the process of being dehydrated".

The jury previously heard evidence of how Ms Patterson would dehydrate mushrooms and blitz them into a powder to "hide" in food for the children, a technique which the prosecutor alleged was used for the fatal lunch.

"At some stage, she blitzed them into a powder, as she admitted doing for other mushrooms, and in that form, hid them [in the beef Wellingtons],"
Dr Rogers said.
Dr Rogers also highlighted evidence given by sole surviving lunch guest Ian Wilkinson, who said the guests had eaten off different-coloured plates to their host.

"The accused deliberately served herself on a different plate to the others in order to identify which of the meals was not poisoned and which she would then serve to herself," Dr Rogers alleged.

"The only reason she would do that is because she knew that there were poisonous mushrooms in the other meals, because she put them there, and to ensure that she could identify the sole non-poisonous meal."

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Dr Rogers told the jury it was not credible that Ms Patterson had found herself unable to recall the location of the Asian grocer where she had claimed to buy dried mushrooms used in the meal.

The prosecutor said Ms Patterson had displayed a "remarkable memory" during her time in the witness box, where she had recalled dates, evidence and details with ease.

Dr Rogers noted that Ms Patterson had even corrected her during cross-examination about the day of the week that a particular date in 2023 fell on.

The prosecutor said given the evidence of Ms Patterson's strong recall, "it simply beggars belief" that she had been unable to remember the store's location.

Dr Rogers told the jury they should reject the evidence that mushrooms for the meal were bought at an Asian grocer as "a fiction" that Ms Patterson had repeated "over and over again".

Ms Patterson's apparent sickness the third deception, prosecution says​

The prosecution claimed that Ms Patterson feigned post-lunch illness to medical staff and family in a third major act of deception.

"The only reason she would do something like that — pretend to be suffering from the same illness as the others — is of course, because she knew she had not been poisoned, knew she was not going to exhibit symptoms of poisoning [and how suspicious that would look]," Dr Rogers said.

"Her good health, in other words, would give her away."
Dr Rogers detailed evidence given by Ms Patterson of her symptoms following the lunch, which she said was "not consistent" with evidence given by a number of other witnesses throughout the trial.

A digital drawing of Erin Patterson wearing a pink shirt

Erin Patterson gave evidence in her own triple-murder trial in Morwell. (ABC News: Paul Tyquin)

One of those witnesses was her estranged husband Simon Patterson who said Ms Patterson had told him she was experiencing diarrhoea and had started feeling unwell an hour or so after her lunch guests had left.

The four lunch guests had started showing symptoms around midnight. Dr Rogers said the delayed onset of symptoms was what first alerted medical experts to death cap mushroom poisoning and "therefore [Ms Patterson's] symptoms were inconsistent with her lunch guests' poisoning".

The frequency of Ms Patterson's alleged bowel movements following the lunch was also brought into question and the prosecution said Ms Patterson's evidence that she took imodium to treat diarrhoea was also fabricated.

The prosecutor also told the jury it was "highly unlikely" someone suffering nausea, cramping and recurrent diarrhoea would embark on a two-hour car journey from Leongatha to Tyabb on the day after the lunch.

Dr Rogers told the jury Ms Patterson's actions to discharge herself from hospital without receiving life-saving treatment after her initial presentation was "incriminating conduct" and she did so because "she knew" she had not eaten death cap mushrooms.

"She realised that what she had done was going to be uncovered," Dr Rogers said.

"She fled back to her house to try and work out how she was going to manage the situation and how she might explain why she wasn't as sick like the lunch guests.

"Her reluctance to receive medical treatment is inexplicable unless she knew she had not eaten what her lunch guests had eaten."

On Monday afternoon, Dr Rogers began to outline what prosecutors alleged was the fourth deception in Ms Patterson's crimes: the "cover-up".

The prosecutor alleged as part of this, Ms Patterson had lied about feeding leftovers from the lunch to her children and lied about the origins of the mushrooms in the meal.

Dr Rogers said the accused had also dumped the dehydrator used to dry death cap mushrooms and concealed her usual mobile phone from police as part of the alleged deception.

The trial continues.
 
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Not Nicole Kidman. 😆
Although she was excellent in To Die For, playing a woman who used a smitten teen, not powdered death caps, to do her murderous bidding!
 
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'Not even a forensic toxicologist could do that in a lab': Crown disputes children's meals​


Dr Rogers said the “first time we see any effort made” by Erin to have her children medically assessed was hours after she’d first been warned of the danger they might have ingested toxic mushrooms.
Dr Rogers said the “perfectly reasonable explanation” for why she hadn’t rushed her children to hospital was because she knew they hadn’t eaten death cap mushrooms.
“The evidence strongly suggests that if the children had eaten leftover meat from the poisoned beef wellington, they too would have at least experienced some symptoms,” she said.
The jury heard the meat part of the leftovers retrieved from the bin at Erin’s home tested positive for death cap toxins.
Dr Rogers said this was evidence that the amatoxins had penetrated, or remained, on the cooked meat.
“The accused attempted to explain why the children weren’t sick by repeatedly saying she’d scraped the mushrooms off, however scientific evidence suggest simply scraping it away would not have been enough to remove the toxins,” she said.
Dr Rogers told the jury to reject explanations from the defence that the mushrooms paste simply “couldn’t be separated” from the meat that was tested at the Victorian Institute of Forensic Medicine.
“It is impossible, we suggest to you, that the accused could have served up a piece of leftover steak with all of the mushroom paste removed,” she said.
“Not even a forensic toxicologist managed to do that in a lab.”

I mentioned this the other day. So they did test it in a lab. Not sure that was mentioned during questioning.
 
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I just wish she'd specifically reminded everyone that if Erin's account were true, and the desthcaps not deliberately hidden in powdered form, they would have been found when the leftovers were analyzed and they were not.
I just really wanted it hammered home that an accidental inclusion was truly impossible.
Totally agreed! I think it’s a key point as well.
Erin had stated she had chopped the mushrooms from the tupperware container up and added them to the meal, yet there were no other mushrooms besides button mushrooms to be found by the experts examining the leftovers. As the death cap toxin was detected, it clearly shows that it was in powdered form. Adding powdered random mushrooms to a special meal can in no shape or form can be accidental imo.
 
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I'm just glad we have the legal system we do in Australia where there is a right to a fair trial, with media allowed to report well most parts of a public hearing. Keeping our legal system transparent is vital, much as I have little sympathy for EP no matter what the verdict is
 
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It is interesting that there's no indication that she owned a dehydrator before.

Does death cap season coincide with SP's previous illness?
I think there was talk earlier on of her dehydrating them in the oven. From memory that was discussed with her online friends.
 
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Were she not so ill, Magda Szubanski.
I remember her from Babe (among others)! I didn't know she was sick. Best wishes for her recovery.
 
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Sorry if this has been discussed before but I understand EP was interested in Crime novels.

There are a number that involve mushroom poisoning including at least 3 by Agatha Christie.

Were any of these books in her collection that Police took or in the unpacked lot she used as an excuse for them having found no books on mushroom foraging?

I wouldn’t be surprised if one is lurking in her collection.
 
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Although she was excellent in To Die For, playing a woman who used a smitten teen, not powdered death caps, to do her murderous bidding!
Nicole Kidman is the right age.
 
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Sorry if this has been discussed before but I understand EP was interested in Crime novels.

There are a number that involve mushroom poisoning including at least 3 by Agatha Christie.

Were any of these books in her collection that Police took or in the unpacked lot she used as an excuse for them having found no books on mushroom foraging?

She clamed to have thousands of books, I agree it would be super interesting to find out.
 
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