VERDICT WATCH Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 #16 *Arrest*

[Kemug]

I believe Erin is being kept in isolation in prison. So she is definitely the smartest person in the room!

 

[LinasK]

So the son never knew that Erin had a dehydrator. I guess it was easy to hide in a huge pantry. You know, the humungous sized pantry that every brilliant cook needs. Especially one with so many plates.

And I also found it interesting that she wouldn't let Gail and Heather see the pantry in her new home that they'd never been to before, and Ian admitted that they did discuss her "Cancer" and how to tell the children. And that she was a hyprochondriac. Oh, and most importantly, that she served up the plates, She refused help from Heather and Gail. Couldn't risk poisoning herself. That's why the different colored plates IMO.

 

[MrJ]

So when the jurors decide on a verdict, when will we the public know?

 

[SouthAussie]

So when the jurors decide on a verdict, when will we the public know?

Probably a nanosecond after the court hears it. The journos in the media rooms at Morwell and Melbourne would be tweeting that info out pretty quickly , I would imagine.

imo

 

[MrJ]

Probably a nanosecond after the court hears it. The journos in the media rooms at Morwell and Melbourne would be tweeting that info out pretty quickly , I would imagine.

imo

What timeframe is that? I'm not really familiar with court proceedings

 

[Lisa4]

I did find (only in media) that apparently Don made the phonecall to 000 on Sunday morning.

He was the one who ate 1.5 BWs.

The other couple were sleeping it off, having put it down to gastro. SP had quite a job to convince them to go to hospital.

Will see if I can find the report about Don being the one who called 000.

It was part of Simon's testimony.

Day 3, May 1
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Test results of beef wellington lunch revealed: Patterson trial

By TOM HAYES and STEFAN BRADLEY RESULTS of toxin tests were revealed and explained to the court during Erin [...]

latrobevalleyexpress.com.au

Further to bolded in top quote above, found this report below about the Wilkinsons. (I still haven't found where they were woken up by Simon at their front door.)

It was part of Ian's testimony 6 May

‘We thought it was gastro’: Ian Wilkinson recalls ‘vomiting, diarrhoea’

Erin Patterson is accused of killing three people with poisonous death cap mushrooms.

7news.com.au

I think its been gone over before in a previous thread that they were all uncomplaining sorts, not ones to rush themselves off to hospital for "gastro", as we can see here.

 

[Lisa4]

That expert said that different outcomes are possible from the same meal, as it's "very likely" the distribution of mushrooms throughout the paste would be uneven

I recall now, one of my first thoughts when I found out it was individual serves was that it allowed for even distribution of doses for each BW.
Scoop out some duxelle mix into a separate bowl, sprinkle powder in, mix well, spread as per recipe....

 

[Lisa4]

Okay just unloading here. Another point that has always bothered me.

If it was all a tragic accident, then how lucky was it that these powdered mushrooms never ended up in the next batch of cooking for the kids? She would have had them ready to use for 9+ weeks between the 2nd foraging trip and the lunch.

Just another of those details where to explain it you have to do mental acrobatics.

 

[Lisa4]

What timeframe is that? I'm not really familiar with court proceedings

Immediately after the verdict is announced.
Msm probably have tweets ready to go for various outcomes. So as long as it takes them to proofcheck and hit send I suppose!

 

[jesse]

And I also found it interesting that she wouldn't let Gail and Heather see the pantry in her new home that they'd never been to before, and Ian admitted that they did discuss her "Cancer" and how to tell the children. And that she was a hyprochondriac. Oh, and most importantly, that she served up the plates, She refused help from Heather and Gail. Couldn't risk poisoning herself. That's why the different colored plates IMO.

They did see it, although Ian noted she seemed reluctant. That's why he stayed behind with Don.

He may have mentioned that he thought she might have been embarrassed that it was messy.

 

[Kemug]

His wife dead for no reason at all.

Why bother to eat properly, keep fit, have all your medical checkups, drive carefully, and all the rest of it, if you have a relative like Erin?

 

[potr]

One thing that really made me sit up and take notice was the first "break up" She is a young mother babe in arms. They are on a road trip by that stage in far north queensland....She, leaves....alone on a 4 hour flight back to Perth. Her baby, is left with Simon to travel via road...just the two of them for days back to Perth.
That is abandonment, subjecting her fully dependent son to an extended road trip, where the caretaker had to divide attention between him and the road or to simply 4 odd hours of an aircraft flight. That is not a devoted..puts her children first kind of mother...that is someone with a serious personality disorder - in my opinion. Spontaneous, unthinking, uncaring, selfish.

 

[Monstradamus]

One thing that really made me sit up and take notice was the first "break up" She is a young mother babe in arms. They are on a road trip by that stage in far north queensland....She, leaves....alone on a 4 hour flight back to Perth. Her baby, is left with Simon to travel via road...just the two of them for days back to Perth.
That is abandonment, subjecting her fully dependent son to an extended road trip, where the caretaker had to divide attention between him and the road or to simply 4 odd hours of an aircraft flight. That is not a devoted..puts her children first kind of mother...that is someone with a serious personality disorder - in my opinion. Spontaneous, unthinking, uncaring, selfish.

Major red flag imo

 

[dothetime]

Served on a single plate, no mushrooms.

If she is found guilty as charged, what she did -- what an utter violation. Food. Could a person ever truly trust food again?

Even if she were incarcerated, the mistrust and trigger would remain.

JMO

Indeed, could a person ever trust food fully again! Our survival requires that we do trust food, particularly packaged foods which we rely on being safe - staples like flour, milk, tinned tomatoes, cereals, drinks, and so on. Now and then some extreme person puts needles in strawberries or Death Cap mushrooms in beef wellington, but like it or not, most of us (unless we have a hobby farm and produce all our own food) still have to trust food to survive! It would be unhelpful to get paranoid about the risks - which are pretty low in most developed countries - I think. IMO

 

[dothetime]

RSBM
You may be correct, but not on mine. And if you could find an example on my phone, I don't like them.

The life rule is not to say, write, or do anything you would not want presented as evidence in a court!

 

[Penny68]

@dothetime
Oh my word!. If the police ever wanted to look at my laptop for googling, they would come across the search for DC mushrooms, as I wanted to read about them due to this case.

 

[Penny68]

Sorry, a double post appeared.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

Serious question. What would become of someone like EP if she isn't convicted?

Would friends and family of the deceased have a right to take their own separate case?

Could prosecution come back at a different time with fresh evidence if they ever find any?

How would EP viably conduct a life in the aftermath of such devastation and suspicion?

Just wondering.
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[Deleted member 363451]

So the son never knew that Erin had a dehydrator. I guess it was easy to hide in a huge pantry. You know, the humungous sized pantry that every brilliant cook needs. Especially one with so many plates.

That's extremely odd.

 

[Kemug]

Poor Ian as well. His whole sense of security must be shattered after all this. I hope he and the entire family really receive intense counselling and support. They definitely need it.

Ian being a pastor, he may already be a trained counsellor, have plenty of experience in it, and knows what will help. But I imagine he is finding it very different to be on the other side. He will probably never be the same again, but hopefully his faith, his family, his friends and his parishioners are surrounding him with love and support. I am sure they are.