Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 #3

[SMK777]

I question 10 mushrooms claim. I've read that even half a mushroom can kill an adult. So seems like a couple of mushrooms would be enough to kill 4 people.

That’s definitely what I’ve read as well.

 

[RickshawFan]

I want to see the package for the button mushrooms, the receipt, or CCTV at the store. Maybe there were no button mushrooms.

IMO she served her kids regular roast beef, but told them it was beef wellington with the mushrooms scraped off. It would never have occurred to the kids to think otherwise than to beLieve mum.

Also, if the bw had mushrooms scraped off, it would still taste like mushrooms, and the kids wouldn’t be eating it.

 

[RickshawFan]

A piece of a death cap is all that’s needed for fatality:

Amanita phalloides - an overview | ScienceDirect Topics

www.sciencedirect.com

Half a mushroom:

Amanita phalloides - Wikipedia

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[SMK777]

A piece of a death cap is all that’s needed for fatality:

Amanita phalloides - an overview | ScienceDirect Topics

www.sciencedirect.com

Half a mushroom:

Amanita phalloides - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

This is what I’d read also.
The claim of 10 is way over the top.

 

[SMK777]

At this point in time, I believe EP is completely innocent, from everything I've read and seen about this case so far. I feel badly for her to be in this position, and the kids have been removed too, which must be hard on everyone. There is absolutely no way she would have let her kids have the leftovers (even if the mushrooms were scraped off) had she known they were deadly. MOO.

What reason do have to think that law enforcement are wrong to suspect her?

 

[SMK777]

As far as I am concerned, that possibility is slim to none.

Which is why LE are investigating her.

 

[Baby baby Jane]

GRAVY! This dish often served with gravy, perhaps it was the gravy which included the powdered DC. Not the actual BW.

 

[Forest_Wood]

What reason do have to think that law enforcement are wrong to suspect her?

Nowhere did I say I think LE are wrong to suspect her.

 

[MsMarple]

I’m with y’all that the kids didn’t eat any part of the Wellington. Tenderloin roasts have tapered ends which are cut off in order create a cylinder that allows the meat to cook evenly.

Why wouldn’t EP just save those delicious ends to serve the kids the following night instead of tearing the Wellington apart to remove mushrooms?

I’m not convinced she was as enamored of her ex relatives as she claims. JMO

 

[SMK777]

Nowhere did I say I think LE are wrong to suspect her.

They don’t believe she’s innocent. Or at least they strongly suspect her enough to take the actions they have thus far.
You say you believe she is completely innocent. Why would LE suspect her if so?

 

[Forest_Wood]

They don’t believe she’s innocent. Or at least they strongly suspect her enough to take the actions they have thus far.
You say you believe she is completely innocent. Why would LE suspect her if so?

LE has the job to investigate what took place. She is a POI because she cooked them a meal. That doesn't mean she's guilty of intentional poisoning. The investigation is still ongoing with no charges yet.

 

[SMK777]

LE has the job to investigate what took place. She is a POI because she cooked them a meal. That doesn't mean she's guilty of intentional poisoning. The investigation is still ongoing with no charges yet.

True. But some of their statements definitely indicate that they are finding troubling inconsistencies with her information.

 

[MsMarple]

True. But some of their statements definitely indicate that they are finding troubling inconsistencies with her information.

Yeah, I wouldn’t be surprised if members of LE have shared suspicions with each other unofficially or otherwise. Noticing red flags and determining why they exist is exactly what they’re trained to investigate.

Like it or not EP herself has created some of the red flags through her own words and actions. Hopefully the evidence will ultimately lead to the truth. JMO

 

[Salah11]

LE has the job to investigate what took place. She is a POI because she cooked them a meal. That doesn't mean she's guilty of intentional poisoning. The investigation is still ongoing with no charges yet.

If she isn’t guilty then she must be luckiest woman alive on that day IMO

 

[RickshawFan]

So, I found a video that explains and demonstrates how to identify death caps. Once I watched this, I had a much better understanding of the mushroom issues in this case. We have mod approval for this video.

 

[Ellery84]

whatever she fed them didn't have death cap mushrooms. Because clearly you can't just scrape them off the dish and be fine.

You’re quite right, I think. Hopefully police will get to the bottom of this matter soon.

 

[Ellery84]

If she isn’t guilty then she must be luckiest woman alive on that day IMO

Maybe she was God’s favourite one?

 

[Sillybilly]

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Thank you.

 

[kittythehare]

Though people can use "may have" as a definite.

As in, "I may have overlooked that error on my tax return" when they know very well that they deliberately made the error.

For me, there is an accumulation of things that are not doing her any favours. Things that could be cleared up if she went to the police station, with her lawyer, and answered their questions.

Why does she think it is okay not to do that, I wonder.

Without a baseline it is utterly impossible to fathom why she didn't go to the police and speak with them openly and honestly.

We can speculate she has an attorney on dial-up because she buys and sells properties. But a conveyancing attorney is not a criminal attorney so it is possibly true that she received bad advice initially.

The truth is that dC have not been officially confirmed as poisoning source.
I do wonder what other toxic substances produce the same or very similar effects?
I mean chemical, not organic.

Taking the dehydrator to the dump may have no relevance at all.

I don't see what use it would have been for that meal.

Why do people lie if they're not guilty?

That investigation is closed tightly and we simply have no information until LE provide it.

 

[SouthAussie]

LE has the job to investigate what took place. She is a POI because she cooked them a meal. That doesn't mean she's guilty of intentional poisoning. The investigation is still ongoing with no charges yet.

I think that the reason that the police have to investigate is because the Dept of Health is not satisfied.

From all I have read, I have the impression that the Dept of Health was involved immediately. As they should be, in case there is a chance of a public health danger in store bought ingredients.

Then the police became involved. With the Dept of Health saying "no comment, this is a police matter" when journos pressed the Dept of Health for answers. And they have not issued a public safety alert about any store bought mushrooms.

imo

Eg: Remembering the public safety alerts about strawberries (someone was putting needles in them). Those alerts were on all TV and radio stations. They got the alert out far and wide through Australia.