GUILTY Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 *Arrest* #17

[drsleuth]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/the-mushroom-cook/the-lies-that-got-crazy-erin-sacked-from-air-traffic-control-gig/news-story/69675337ebad7c618fe73ab0bd0c019b?amp

The lies that got ‘crazy Erin’ sacked from air traffic control gig​

Former colleagues of triple murderer Erin Patterson — whose maiden name was Scutter — have described her as a pathological liar who “managed to get guys wrapped around her little finger”.

Paraphrased :

• Erin's was nicknamed “Scutter the Nutter” by her air traffic controller mates before being saked for lying about her working hours. She was leavin work early & it was confirmed by CCTV ( Her maiden name was Scutter ) She lied until shown CCTV than said “‘Ah, you’ve got me there’, was what she said,”
• She was also called "crazy Erin"
• She worked there between February and November 2001
• Erin was secretive about her life
• “She didn’t engage with anyone, she had no friends, she was a loner.”
• Erin's mother Heather Scutter, died in 2019 leaving an inheritance to Patterson and her sister Ceinwen Scutter
• “She was a ritual, habitual and pathological liar, she would just say anything, just to get away with anything.”
• A former colleague said, despite some personality issues, a number of men on staff had pursued Patterson and became quite “smitten”.
• One was a married man who turned up at her house in the early hours saying he wanted to leave his wife for her.
  “She managed to get guys wrapped around her little finger,”

 

[MrJ]

I hope Simon divorces her now.

 

[Bekind89]

How she managed to hide Phone A.

I would love to know if she feels it was worth it. Was her hated and anger and need to make them suffer so great that she would do it again, knowing it meant life in prison for her.
I wonder about that a lot.

 

[Deleted member 363451]

I would love to know if she feels it was worth it. Was her hated and anger and need to make them suffer so great that she would do it again, knowing it meant life in prison for her.
I wonder about that a lot.

I wonder if her children will continue to visit her in prison? They may have believed it was accidental up until now...

 

[drsleuth]

Why Erin Patterson was found guilty in the mushroom murder trial

Professors Rick Sarre and Ben Livings unpack the legal issues that contributed to the length of the much-publicised trial and its outcome.

www.1news.co.nz

Days of summing up​

Another interesting aspect of the case is that the summing up by the two lead barristers, and then the judge, took more than six days. A generation ago, these addresses would have typically taken considerably less time than that.

The change, which has occurred slowly over the last two decades, has been necessitated by appeal judgements following guilty verdicts in long trials. In some of these, defence counsel successfully argued the defence case was not sufficiently covered in the judge’s summing up.

That being the case, the prosecution summary now needs to preempt every aspect of the defence case, knowing the defence counsel summary that follows will attend to every last point that the prosecution has raised.

Then the judge needs to give chapter and verse (in this case, over four days) in relation to everything again, paying particular attention to the defence case.

The process is now laborious and time-consuming. One might pity the jurors hearing everything over and over again.

Indeed, we believe there is little evidence this very expensive change has raised the quality of verdicts.

But one cannot doubt the way that the criminal process now goes to extraordinary lengths to ensure that an accused receives a fair trial. We will never know why the jury took over six days to reach its verdict (in Australia they are duty bound not to reveal anything of their deliberations), but it does indicate the seriousness with which they treat their role in this process.

The trust that is placed in the hands of jurors, even with the high profile media frenzy that this case elicited, remains firm.

On the other hand, with such drawn-out procedures, it’s perhaps not surprising that court backlogs continue to grow, and ever-increasing numbers of people (currently 42% of the Australian prison population) are sitting in prison on remand, awaiting trial.

 

[MrJ]

I don't think she and people of her type of offending can be rehabilitated. Just look at the glee she had that she put powdered mushrooms in her children's food. I think she was thrilled she had so much power over what she put in the meal. It also confirms to me how little regard she had for these kind and innocent people. They weren't useful to her anymore. She didn't want them around because in her mind they were on the same side as Simon (obviously, why wouldn't they be?) and therefore were a nuisance to be gotten rid of. Erin is truly vile and one of the worst poisoners in Australian history.

 

[Bekind89]

I wonder if her children will continue to visit her in prison? They may have believed it was accidental up until now...

I truly feel pity for them. They have so much to process, things adults would struggle with.

 

[Deleted member 363451]

I truly feel pity for them. They have so much to process, things adults would struggle with.

I know. They're going to need lots of support and probably professional counselling.

 

[Tortoise]

I wonder if she did a dry run to see if the death caps would smell.

 

[drsleuth]

I think the only truthful thing out of Erin's mouth was that her victims were nothing but nice to her etc

They prayed for HER at their "last supper" All the while Erin knowing, with every mouthful they took, they were a ticking time bomb.

And they died the most horrendous , painful deaths, that you wouldn't wish on your worst enemy.

She is truly evil IMO

She is now where she deserves, hopefully for the rest of her miserable life.


At times it seemed almost an afterthought, during an extended trial subject to ghoulish fascination, that Don Patterson, Gail Patterson and Heather Wilkinson died terrible deaths.

Australian mushroom murders: Erin Patterson guilty verdict ends weeks of laborious detail and ghoulish fascination

Victorian jury convicts 50-year-old who poisoned her in-laws with death cap mushrooms, killing three

www.theguardian.com

 

[Tortoise]

I wonder if her children will continue to visit her in prison? They may have believed it was accidental up until now...

I think quite often close family members are in such deep denial they don't accept the verdicts even when evidence is overwhelming. They are used to being gaslit and manipulated by the murderer and have unwittingly been their victims, and sometimes enablers, without knowing it. MOO

 

[Deleted member 363451]

I wonder if she did a dry run to see if the death caps would smell.

I believe that she did. That's why she purchased more mushrooms and meat than she needed.

 

[Deleted member 363451]

I think quite often close family members are in such deep denial they don't accept the verdicts even when evidence is overwhelming. They are used to being gaslit and manipulated by the murderer and have unwittingly been their victims, and sometimes enablers, without knowing it. MOO

Her daughter is only 11 years old.

 

[Tortoise]

I believe that she did. That's why she purchased more mushrooms and meat than she needed.

Yes something else she had no answer for - wtte 'I don't know why I bought more pastry', and 'I must have eaten the first kilo of mushrooms'.

 

[drsleuth]

Australian mushroom murders: Erin Patterson guilty verdict ends weeks of laborious detail and ghoulish fascination

Victorian jury convicts 50-year-old who poisoned her in-laws with death cap mushrooms, killing three

www.theguardian.com

A travelling circus​

And a circus, at times, it was: people were chased out of court after trying to take selfies with Patterson, or, at one point, reaching out to touch her hand. Another man was marched out after directing a protest at Justice Christopher Beale. An article that was to be about the “media circus” breached a suppression order, as did multiple other publications.

There was a man with rainbow coloured hair and a matching coat, who runs a business giving people “unicorn manes”. A woman who runs a popular true crime Instagram account shared the front row with novelist Helen Garner.

Patterson spent week nights inside the Morwell police cells. Every day of the trial, she walked about 30 steps along a passageway, no wider than three metres, from the back of the station into the court building.


I guess we can expect a book by Helen Garner

 

[browneyes]

From the moment the bathroom door is fully closed until it opens again, there was 3 seconds. That was barely enough time to toss something in the trash.

I think she just went in and right back out.

 

[Megnut]

3, 7 or 9 seconds is the right amount of time it takes to flush a toilet. Bye bye, Whatever It Was.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

Who's the deadbeat now?

jmo

 

[dalsglen]

Wakey Wakey Erin, it's your first full day in your new forever home.

 

[iridized]

6 key discoveries you need to know about the mushroom murders​

https://www.nowtolove.co.nz/news/local-news/mushroom-murder-discoveries-47916

Interesting about her sister. "She is also a keen baker and her cake business has hundreds of followers."