GUILTY Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 *Arrest* #17

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Gosh I hope this power isn’t misused and sincerely hope all remaining funds are used to fund counselling and all the children need in absence of their mother, large amounts should go to Erin’s children once they are old enough.
It isn’t even Erin’s money that she worked for, she was lucky enough to inherit it and should keep the generational wealth for her children!
I wonder how a possible divorce settlement in the future would affect things? With legal costs likely to be ongoing, there may not be a lot left. My prediction is Ali Prior is going to be ‘torched’ at some stage, based on how other posters have described Erin.
 
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I wonder how a possible divorce settlement in the future would affect things? With legal costs likely to be ongoing, there may not be a lot left. My prediction is Ali Prior is going to be ‘torched’ at some stage, based on how other posters have described Erin.
I really hope there will be enough left for the children to set themselves up financially, to at least purchase houses with a significant deposit.
Erin’s selfishness really knows no bounds - the crimes, the $1m+ wasted on lawyers when she knew she was guilty 😡 (like I said it was not truly her own money that she had worked for, it’s generational wealth that she also had an obligation to pass on to her children imo!)
 
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Are we allowed to use Dr. Webster's quote in our signatures? Asking for a friend...
I'm considering cross-stitching it on a pillow!
 
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Anyone who's called "crazy" and with a nickname of "nutter" should maybe be benched.
Yes, in this case of the person we know to be totally unhinged, could agree. But if you are given a nasty knick- name well it might be your mates are in need of a bit of a reminder about bullying.
 
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I really wanna know what all she gave him.
It's crazy that she told him his daughter 'made the cookies.' How evil if they were poison and EP stooped so low to try and blame her child just so Simon might be fooled into trusting his psycho ex.
 
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In that infamous footage of Erin wiping imaginary tears Erin has dirt under her nails 🤮. I have a job where I wash my hands a lot and that is just disgusting to me
I'll bet you wash for longer than nine seconds as well!
 
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I've been listening to quite a lot of stuff since the trial, and have been quite surprised how many have been openly contemptuous of EP now the verdict is in. It seems they did a great job of acting impartial when maybe they weren't. The exception was the ABC podcast, where I thought the tone was more sombre.

One place I think they're missing a trick is with the claim that it was Simon filing for separation that caused the chain of events. This almost seems to be commonly accepted now.

<modsnip: Violation of Judge Beale's Suppression Order>
 
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I've been listening to quite a lot of stuff since the trial, and have been quite surprised how many have been openly contemptuous of EP now the verdict is in. It seems they did a great job of acting impartial when maybe they weren't. The exception was the ABC podcast, where I thought the tone was more sombre.

One place I think they're missing a trick is with the claim that it was Simon filing for separation that caused the chain of events. This almost seems to be commonly accepted now.

<modsnip: Violation of Judge Beale's Suppression Order>
I think most professionals remain impartial as not “all” the facts are available until after a trial. Only the unwise will call a judgement without knowing all the facts. With court cases this is normally “after” the verdict.
But one thing that is bugging me; if a lot of people “knew” she was evil and capable of doing such horrendous things, why not go to social services for the welfare of her children, before all this happened?
 
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I love to prepare food for loved ones, and I love when loved ones prepare food for me. Taking the time to select a menu, remembering what people love and what they don't eat, making sure everyone will love at least some of the dishes — it really is a way to show people how special they are to you. The idea of stewing (ha) over past slights, then spending months plotting, foraging and setting aside the mushrooms when they're in season, preparing a dish in which you can hide your poison, then sitting alongside people and watching them consume what will kill them? I honestly can't comprehend how badly broken you need to be to commit a crime in this way.
 
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I love to prepare food for loved ones, and I love when loved ones prepare food for me. Taking the time to select a menu, remembering what people love and what they don't eat, making sure everyone will love at least some of the dishes — it really is a way to show people how special they are to you. The idea of stewing (ha) over past slights, then spending months plotting, foraging and setting aside the mushrooms when they're in season, preparing a dish in which you can hide your poison, then sitting alongside people and watching them consume what will kill them? I honestly can't comprehend how badly broken you need to be to commit a crime in this way.
It certainly was very premeditated - and so much work. I think she took something that people do - do out of love (making a lovely meal for loved ones) and she turned it into total evilness.
 
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There are details of each of the poisonings of her husband, as well as his discussion about suspected poisoning with his doctor and family.
I found myself being so terribly sad as I read the some what chronological outline of events that led to this awful outcome.

My major concern is for those children - they are at such vulnerable ages and it seems they have been manipulated & deceived by their Mother !!

My thoughts are also with Simon. ..he’s not only been so badly treated but imo it’s pretty clear that he was also a target for her ‘it’s my way or the 6ft under way’ elimination practices 🙄

How does he navigate this as a Dad I wonder ..
 
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That’s been a sticking point for me. It’s hard to imagine anyone doing that to the kids. She doesn’t sound like she is a delinquent mother.
What's hard to imagine? It's not as if a parent has never killed another parent, leaving the children to suffer. And I'm not sure what delinquent means in this context. She fed, clothed and housed them (as required by law) and took them to extracurricular activities (nice bonus). She also left deadly poison within their reach.
 
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That’s been a sticking point for me. It’s hard to imagine anyone doing that to the kids. She doesn’t sound like she is a delinquent mother.
Yes she seems to me like a very devoted mother.
 
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There was one thing I hadn’t read before, Erin lying to her friend that her mum “drunk herself into a coma” as her cause of death rather than dying from cancer.
Ironic her calling out her dead mother's drinking in light of her own DWI and loss of licence.
 
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Ironic her calling out her dead mother's drinking in light of her own DWI and loss of licence.
Yep. She turned out to be a much worse human and mother than her own mother.
Decent, good mothers don't subject their kids to a situation like this. They certainly don't murder their children's close relatives.
I really feel for her children.
 
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14870425/Erin-Patterson-cctv-plates-tip.html

EXCLUSIVE​

The most damning evidence against Erin Patterson can be revealed at last - as we expose CCTV video of what she did just 30 MINUTES after her deadly lunch.​


Shortly after Erin Patterson's lunch guests finished their deadly beef Wellingtons and left, never-before-seen CCTV footage reveals her chilling next move.

In evidence that was never seen or heard by the jury at her triple-murder trial, Patterson drove straight to a local tip where she is believed to have dumped the four guests' plates, just 30 minutes after they had left her home on the afternoon of July 29, 2023.

Footage exclusively obtained by Daily Mail Australia shows Patterson dropping off what appeared to be a load of cardboard and a garbage bag at Koonwarra Transfer Station and Landfill at 3.30pm that afternoon. She then drove away in her red MG.
 
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But one thing that is bugging me; if a lot of people “knew” she was evil and capable of doing such horrendous things, why not go to social services for the welfare of her children, before all this happened?
Based on what exactly? There was no proof at the time that she ever harmed her children. You can't go to child services because you think someone has a personality disorder. That's hardly sufficient grounds for a welfare check.

And keep in mind, that this is all 20/20 hindsight. People knew bits-and-pieces of the story. That she bullied them. Or that she was a compulsive liar. No one could possibly know that she had so much internalized rage that she would poison four innocent people just because of some perceived slight.
 
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I posed this question to an Open AI model:

"Erin Patterson showed zero emotion in court when the jury announced the verdict of her charges.
I suspect that she's a Narcissistic Psychopath. Would showing no emotion be an expected response?"

This was the answer it gave:​


If — hypothetically — Erin Patterson were a narcissistic psychopath, then yes: her showing no emotion in court upon hearing “guilty on all charges” (3 murders, 1 attempted murder) would be consistent with how people with these traits often behave.

Here’s why:


🧠 Narcissistic psychopathy behavioural traits:​

🔷 Psychopathy traits (per Hare’s Psychopathy Checklist, PCL-R):
  • Lack of empathy or remorse
  • Shallow affect (superficial or limited emotional response)
  • Grandiosity, sense of superiority
  • Manipulativeness, lying
  • Callousness
🔷 Narcissistic traits (as in Narcissistic Personality Disorder):
  • Fragile but inflated self-esteem
  • Denial of fault or blame
  • Difficulty tolerating shame, so they may mask emotion to “save face”
  • Focus on maintaining control of their image

🌡️ Why they might not show emotion:​

✅ Many psychopaths don’t truly feel guilt, shame, or fear the way most people do — so they don’t experience the courtroom moment the way you or I might.
✅ Others are so invested in their self-image (“I’m smarter than everyone,” “This is unfair,” “I’ll appeal and win”) that they suppress outward signs of distress.
✅ Some simply don’t process consequences properly — they live in the moment, or assume they’ll still “win” somehow.
✅ In narcissistic psychopathy specifically, the shame of being seen as weak or defeated may lead to a stone-faced, blank response as a kind of defence mechanism.

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