Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023

[TootsieFootsie]

Deadly ‘mushroom poisoning’: The family lunch mystery gripping Australia

Host remains a suspect after three teachers die and pastor left fighting for life

www.independent.co.uk

They separated years ago according to a close friend,

 

[Estelle]

I mean, how do you know he's been living in one of Erin's houses? As opposed to a house of his own, or one he's renting, or sharing, or something. The article said they'd been living in separate houses for years before they 'broke up'. Maybe what breaking up meant was that he went from living in an Erin-house to a place he organized for himself. I'm curious . . . I think it makes him more vulnerable perhaps, not to have his housing sorted independently of his ex-wife and his parents.

JLZ said, "How do you know he's been living in one of Erin's houses?"
That is what the media has been reporting for the last few days.

JLZ said, "The article said they'd been living in separate houses for years before they 'broke up'."
I have never read that, could you please give me a link?

 

[JLZ]

JLZ said, "How do you know he's been living in one of Erin's houses?"
That is what the media has been reporting for the last few days.

JLZ said, "The article said they'd been living in separate houses for years before they 'broke up'."
I have never read that, could you please give me a link?

Simon and Erin’s fractured relationship and subsequent separation have also become the subject of widespread speculation, with no official word from police except to say that they believed the separation was amicable. The couple had been living in separate homes for years before their break-up.

‘Nobody will ever forget’: Inside the town at the centre of a poisonous mushroom mystery

Criminal investigations are rare in the quiet, religious town of Korumburra. Until now, the most recent time the town was connected to a homicide squad probe was two decades ago.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Estelle]

Deadly ‘mushroom poisoning’: The family lunch mystery gripping Australia

Host remains a suspect after three teachers die and pastor left fighting for life

www.independent.co.uk

They separated years ago according to a close friend,

The Mail quoted a close family source as saying Ms Patterson and her ex-husband had separated years ago but wanted to keep the relationship amicable for their children’s sake. “I think he was really trying to facilitate a healthy co-parenting arrangement,’ they said. “Basically all of his choices and everything he was doing was to keep things stable for the kids.”

Deadly ‘mushroom poisoning’: The family lunch mystery gripping Australia

Host remains a suspect after three teachers die and pastor left fighting for life

www.independent.co.uk

We don't really know what "years ago" means. For me, it means over one year. His hospitalisation occurred in May 2022 so that's 15 months ago.

 

[Jess M.]

It kind of reminds me of the Adelaide woman who poisoned her elderly parents (about 94 years old) a year apart.

The poisoning - I think it may have been insulin?.

It appears the first poisoning nothing was attributed to her but after the second one a year later to her other parent with the same method it was investigated further and her being accused of deliberately doing it.

If EP's ex was her first trial at doing this method of poisoning without it raising any thoughts or links to her it then gave her the confidence to do it again. MOO

It would be interesting to know how both of her parents died in 2019? She's worth $2 million now and has no mortgages. She pays cash for her investment properties and her ex husband is living in one of them currently.

 

[Estelle]

With excellent snooping, the Sentinel-Times published real estate pictures from the previous sale of the double-storey, stylish weatherboard home that showed a cluster of alarmingly orange mushrooms at the base of a tree that no one in their right mind would eat.

The photograph from the South Gippsland Sentinel Times.

Deadly mushrooms, mysteries and the curious cops

Any homicide investigator will tell you that while lightning can strike twice, you certainly want to go and have a look at the scorch marks.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Jess M.]

With excellent snooping, the Sentinel-Times published real estate pictures from the previous sale of the double-storey, stylish weatherboard home that showed a cluster of alarmingly orange mushrooms at the base of a tree that no one in their right mind would eat.

The photograph from the South Gippsland Sentinel Times.

Deadly mushrooms, mysteries and the curious cops

Any homicide investigator will tell you that while lightning can strike twice, you certainly want to go and have a look at the scorch marks.

www.theage.com.au

They aren't death cap mushrooms. Death caps are white underneath and pale on top.

Death Cap Mushrooms

Death cap mushrooms are a high health risk in our urban environments. Eating them may lead to liver and kidney damage as well as death.

www.bccdc.ca

 

[JLZ]

It would be interesting to know how both of her parents died in 2019? She's worth $2 million now and has no mortgages. She pays cash for her investment properties and her ex husband is living in one of them currently.

Thanks, I think I remember now reading that before.

I wonder if he's paying market rent.

Or she can say, either we're a couple, in which case time you came home, or I want you out of my spare house.

 

[Estelle]

It would be interesting to know how both of her parents died in 2019? She's worth $2 million now and has no mortgages. She pays cash for her investment properties and her ex husband is living in one of them currently.

Yes it would be very interesting to know her parents' COD in 2019.

So four years ago, Erin inherited $2m and later bought five houses - none of which have mortgages. However, it takes some time for probate to go through.

She has a two-storey house, her estranged husband has a single storey house and she must let the other three properties for income.

 

[Jess M.]

If as some media outlets have reported, Simon really does suspect his wife os poisoning him last year, would he live in one of her houses? I wonder if they have already had their property settlement, even though they aren't yet divorced?

 

[Jess M.]

Yes it would be very interesting to know her parents' COD in 2019.

So four years ago, Erin inherited $2m and later bought five houses - none of which have mortgages. However, it takes some time for probate to go through.

She has a two-storey house, her estranged husband has a single storey house and she must let the other three properties for income.

Her parents must of been wealthy.

 

[JLZ]

Her parents must of been wealthy.

Not necessarily. Depends where they lived. Melbourne houses are expensive.

 

[Estelle]

They aren't death cap mushrooms. Death caps are white underneath and pale on top.

Death Cap Mushrooms

Death cap mushrooms are a high health risk in our urban environments. Eating them may lead to liver and kidney damage as well as death.

www.bccdc.ca

Can I eat this orange mushroom?

The most common species of orange mushroom is the Jack-o'lantern mushroom, which is highly toxic to both humans and animals. Of course, there are also varieties of orange mushrooms that are edible, such as the orange peel fungi that can be eaten.

I don't think we can assume that Erin used death cap mushrooms. All we can assume is that she could have used toxic ones.

 

[Jess M.]

Can I eat this orange mushroom?

The most common species of orange mushroom is the Jack-o'lantern mushroom, which is highly toxic to both humans and animals. Of course, there are also varieties of orange mushrooms that are edible, such as the orange peel fungi that can be eaten.

I don't think we can assume that Erin used death cap mushrooms. All we can assume is that she could have used toxic ones.

That's true. The symptoms are probably very similar.

 

[Jess M.]

Funnily enough, I joined a couple of FB foraging groups earlier this year. The orangish brown mushrooms that they mainly find, I have never seen before or eaten. I left the groups last week.

 

[JLZ]

Can I eat this orange mushroom?

The most common species of orange mushroom is the Jack-o'lantern mushroom, which is highly toxic to both humans and animals. Of course, there are also varieties of orange mushrooms that are edible, such as the orange peel fungi that can be eaten.

I don't think we can assume that Erin used death cap mushrooms. All we can assume is that she could have used toxic ones.

It was reported that the symptoms corresponded with the effects of eating death cap mushrooms specifically. There was an article that contrasted the effects of the yellow-staining mushroom. If it wasn't the death cap, perhaps it wasn't mushrooms at all, or the lunch at Erin's.

 

[Jess M.]

It was reported that the symptoms corresponded with the effects of eating death cap mushrooms specifically. There was an article that contrasted the effects of the yellow-staining mushroom. If it wasn't the death cap, perhaps it wasn't mushrooms at all, or the lunch at Erin's.

That would be an uncanny coincidence.

Why did she lie about where she bought the mushrooms? Why didn't her or her. kids eat the meal? I think we can safely assume that the poisoning happened from the mushrooms.

 

[JLZ]

That would be an uncanny coincidence.

Why did she lie about where she bought the mushrooms? Why didn't her or her. kids eat the meal? I think we can safely assume that the poisoning happened from the mushrooms.

Pending toxicology, I think it was the death cap. I have wondered whether she thought it was another poisonous type that would cause sickness not death.

 

[JLZ]

The Mail quoted a close family source as saying Ms Patterson and her ex-husband had separated years ago but wanted to keep the relationship amicable for their children’s sake. “I think he was really trying to facilitate a healthy co-parenting arrangement,’ they said. “Basically all of his choices and everything he was doing was to keep things stable for the kids.”

Deadly ‘mushroom poisoning’: The family lunch mystery gripping Australia

Host remains a suspect after three teachers die and pastor left fighting for life

www.independent.co.uk

We don't really know what "years ago" means. For me, it means over one year. His hospitalisation occurred in May 2022 so that's 15 months ago.

I think we don't really know what "separated" means. I suspect the couple disagreed for some time about whether they were separated or not.

 

[Jess M.]

Pending toxicology, I think it was the death cap. I have wondered whether she thought it was another poisonous type that would cause sickness not death.

That's very possible. She could play the dutiful daughter-in-law and support them in their illness in a quest to win her ex back...