Australia AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025

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Doesn’t matter imo. It did happen and there’s NO excuse to show force with a gun. Plain and simple. The blame is on Josie. Imo. Shows some major anger issues and a gun isn’t going to solve anything but the potential of injuring someone. Media or not it’s WRONG & dangerous moo
I’d be losing my 🤬🤬🤬🤬 too if I were in Josie’s shoes. Getting harassed on your own private property, especially by media, when you need solitude is not ok!
 
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So where on earth is Gus?
 
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Well Gus isn't in the dam. So where is he??


Police, with the assistance of SES, have drained and searched a dam on a property in the State’s Mid North, however, there has been no sign of missing four-year-old Gus.
Police, including Major Crime and Water Operations Unit, along with SES attended the property this morning.

The operation to drain the main dam into the southern dam commenced at 9.15am today. It took about three and a half hours to drain the large dam, pumping water at approximately 15,000 litres per minute. A total of 3.2 million litres of water was removed from the dam.

Police divers have thoroughly searched the main dam and the holding dam, including clearing of weed beds, however, there was nothing of significance found.

The 3.2 million litres of water was then pumped back into the dam, with very little loss of water in the process.

Police thank SES for their invaluable assistance in this operation.

You’re joking! It started to make sense that he was in the dam
 
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Not sure if this has been covered because I just can't keep up.

There's one sentence from the above article that I found interesting, but bear in mind it is the Daily Mail. It says:
It has been reported that Gus's mum Jessica was with Josie looking for lost sheep about 10km from the homestead when Gus disappeared.
If this is true, how were the sheep lost? I am by no means a sheep farmer, I have a few sheep and a few paddocks. Whilst it's obviously easy to keep track of my sheep, I've never accidently left a gate open or not remembered which paddock they're in. Despite the much larger scale of a working sheep farm, I would imagine farmers would be on top of what sheep are where at all times - it's their livelihood after all. I imagine the sheep could have gotten through a broken fence, or a gap where the gate meets the fence, or maybe even a barely latched gate had been pushed open. Sheep do like to rub up against things to scratch an itch, and have quite a bit of force, so could do some damage like that. I don't think sheep would be lost long term, you would likely discover they're missing pretty quickly, unless each paddock is huge with many gates open within the property, or your neighbour may let you know. I'm guessing the sheep were lost that day, but I'm no sheep farmer so maybe I'm wrong.

But - the question has to be asked - why were they lost? Was a gate left open, either accidently or purposefully? Who did it, and why, if not an accident? It could just be part and parcel of farming, accidents do happen after all, but it could be really crucial.
 
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For whatever reason the firearm is being held; it’s not a pump action shotgun let alone sawn off as I’ve seen mentioned. One can clearly see the lever action and the length of the seemingly unmolested single barrel.

As alluded to in previous post, this firearm could not be carried ‘broken’ as it is not a ‘break-away’ by design - ammunition loading is not into the barrels from the top once separated but rather from the side.

Even if factually incorrect, the term ‘sawn off shotgun’ draws attention reader I suppose?
 
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Not sure if this has been covered because I just can't keep up.

There's one sentence from the above article that I found interesting, but bear in mind it is the Daily Mail. It says:
It has been reported that Gus's mum Jessica was with Josie looking for lost sheep about 10km from the homestead when Gus disappeared.
If this is true, how were the sheep lost? I am by no means a sheep farmer, I have a few sheep and a few paddocks. Whilst it's obviously easy to keep track of my sheep, I've never accidently left a gate open or not remembered which paddock they're in. Despite the much larger scale of a working sheep farm, I would imagine farmers would be on top of what sheep are where at all times - it's their livelihood after all. I imagine the sheep could have gotten through a broken fence, or a gap where the gate meets the fence, or maybe even a barely latched gate had been pushed open. Sheep do like to rub up against things to scratch an itch, and have quite a bit of force, so could do some damage like that. I don't think sheep would be lost long term, you would likely discover they're missing pretty quickly, unless each paddock is huge with many gates open within the property, or your neighbour may let you know. I'm guessing the sheep were lost that day, but I'm no sheep farmer so maybe I'm wrong.

But - the question has to be asked - why were they lost? Was a gate left open, either accidently or purposefully? Who did it, and why, if not an accident? It could just be part and parcel of farming, accidents do happen after all, but it could be really crucial.
Maybe broken fences??
 
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Maybe not. The DM was not authorised to be there. All media had been asked to stay away. The situation wouldn't have happened if they didn't (knowingly) trespass.

The ammunition seems to have been kept separate from the firearm, and the firearm was under the control of the registered owner - on their own private property.

SAPOL Rural Security

imo
The gun was not being correctly handled. When gaining a gun licence, it is clearly emphasised how a gun of this type should be carried & it should be a fast fail to handle this particular gun in this way
 
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The gun was not being correctly handled. When gaining a gun licence, it is clearly emphasised how a gun of this type should be carried & it should be a fast fail to handle this particular gun in this way
Out of curiosity, how should this particular firearm be handled? I’m assuming you mean carried? I absolutely agree that it should not have been presented publicly if that is what you are referring to?
 
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The way I see all this is DM journalism 101.
Look at what they've done here.
 
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"Dogs can track the scent of familiar people
because they have an excellent sense of smell
that recognizes and remembers unique human odors.

They can distinguish between family members."
As much as I agree for pets, working dogs don’t always have the same relationship. Usually kept outside and the strongest bond would be with the farmer.
 
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rsbm
There's one sentence from the above article that I found interesting, but bear in mind it is the Daily Mail. It says:
It has been reported that Gus's mum Jessica was with Josie looking for lost sheep about 10km from the homestead when Gus disappeared.
If this is true, how were the sheep lost? I am by no means a sheep farmer, I have a few sheep and a few paddocks. Whilst it's obviously easy to keep track of my sheep, I've never accidently left a gate open or not remembered which paddock they're in. Despite the much larger scale of a working sheep farm, I would imagine farmers would be on top of what sheep are where at all times - it's their livelihood after all. I imagine the sheep could have gotten through a broken fence, or a gap where the gate meets the fence, or maybe even a barely latched gate had been pushed open. Sheep do like to rub up against things to scratch an itch, and have quite a bit of force, so could do some damage like that. I don't think sheep would be lost long term, you would likely discover they're missing pretty quickly, unless each paddock is huge with many gates open within the property, or your neighbour may let you know. I'm guessing the sheep were lost that day, but I'm no sheep farmer so maybe I'm wrong.

But - the question has to be asked - why were they lost? Was a gate left open, either accidently or purposefully? Who did it, and why, if not an accident? It could just be part and parcel of farming, accidents do happen after all, but it could be really crucial.

We can be sure that the Daily Mail did not get the "lost sheep" story from Gus' family. I believe they created the "lost sheep" reason for why the women were working 10 kms away from home as this is the first and only source to make the "lost sheep" suggestion. At this point, I would dismiss it as a fabrication.

Neither do I see any pictures suggesting Grandmother was waving a gun. It simply looks like she was carrying a gun at the time the reporter met her. So I would also probably dismiss the gun waving as sensationalism. People on farms carry guns at times for legitimate, work related reasons.
 
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Not sure if this has been covered because I just can't keep up.

There's one sentence from the above article that I found interesting, but bear in mind it is the Daily Mail. It says:
It has been reported that Gus's mum Jessica was with Josie looking for lost sheep about 10km from the homestead when Gus disappeared.
If this is true, how were the sheep lost? I am by no means a sheep farmer, I have a few sheep and a few paddocks. Whilst it's obviously easy to keep track of my sheep, I've never accidently left a gate open or not remembered which paddock they're in. Despite the much larger scale of a working sheep farm, I would imagine farmers would be on top of what sheep are where at all times - it's their livelihood after all. I imagine the sheep could have gotten through a broken fence, or a gap where the gate meets the fence, or maybe even a barely latched gate had been pushed open. Sheep do like to rub up against things to scratch an itch, and have quite a bit of force, so could do some damage like that. I don't think sheep would be lost long term, you would likely discover they're missing pretty quickly, unless each paddock is huge with many gates open within the property, or your neighbour may let you know. I'm guessing the sheep were lost that day, but I'm no sheep farmer so maybe I'm wrong.

But - the question has to be asked - why were they lost? Was a gate left open, either accidently or purposefully? Who did it, and why, if not an accident? It could just be part and parcel of farming, accidents do happen after all, but it could be really crucial.
Yes DM have stated lost sheep and other media outlets have said attending sheep, feeding sheep. So who knows what they were doing apart from the fact they were 10km away from homestead when Gus went missing.

 
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Yes DM have stated lost sheep and other media outlets have said attending sheep, feeding sheep. So who knows what they were doing apart from the fact they were 10km away from homestead when Gus went missing.

Are there (10km away) also dams, where the women were working with their sheep?
 
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That didn't happen. The shotgun was pointed at the ground, straight up (vertically) in the air for a moment, then back at the ground. And Josie's hand was nowhere near the trigger. It was further up on the rifle.

Yes indeed, I watched the vid. It's my opinion that raising that muzzle was an escalation, and a definite no no in the world I live in....no worries my friend, I'm fully on the side of the landowner here.
 
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Are there (10km away) also dams, where the woman were working with their sheep?
I've just had a look on Google Earth and if Channel 7 have the correct location of where they were attending sheep, then yes there is 2 dams approx 5kms from the homestead and in somewhat the same direction they were attending to sheep. But they appear small and may be dry. Also if Gus headed in that direction he would of had to have crossed over Oak Park Road.


 

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Ok just looking around on Google Earth and measuring distances. I think we were all of the assumption that the drive from Oak Park Road to homestead was 32km when its only 0.32km.

So do we have 6 gates to go through on that approx 0.32km road??

Why has the possibility of an abduction been ruled out if you can walk to the homestead and back to Oak Park Road in under 1km???

 

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It’s so sad Gus wasn’t found today. I was expecting to see the dam fully emptied so they could see if Gus was tangled amongst the reeds or stuck in the muddy silt at the bottom. It looks to me as though they could walk right over him without realising he’s there.
 

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