Australia AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025

[tedtink]

Australia has multiple time zones.
Did the Grand Final finish at 5pm in Yunta SA?
Has this been confirmed please?


Note that Yunta uses a special half-hour time zone.

Time Zone & Clock Changes in Yunta, South Australia, Australia

Historic, present and future dates for daylight saving time and clock changes. Time changes between years 2024 and 2028 in Australia – South Australia – Yunta are shown here.

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What time is the AFL grand final?​

Here are the times according to which state or territory you're in:

• 2.30pm AEST: ACT, NSW, Queensland, Tasmania, Victoria
• 2pm ACST: Northern Territory, South Australia
• 12.30pm AWST: Western Australia

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[SouthAussie]

Australia has multiple time zones.
Did the Grand Final finish at 5pm in Yunta SA?
Has this been confirmed please?


Note that Yunta uses a special half-hour time zone.

Time Zone & Clock Changes in Yunta, South Australia, Australia

Historic, present and future dates for daylight saving time and clock changes. Time changes between years 2024 and 2028 in Australia – South Australia – Yunta are shown here.

www.timeanddate.com

What time is the AFL grand final?​

Here are the times according to which state or territory you're in:

• 2.30pm AEST: ACT, NSW, Queensland, Tasmania, Victoria
• 2pm ACST: Northern Territory, South Australia
• 12.30pm AWST: Western Australia

Everything you need to know ahead of the 2025 AFL grand final

Wondering what time the AFL grand final starts and how you can watch it live? We've got you covered.

www.abc.net.au

Just to be clear, the whole state of SA is ½ an hour behind the Eastern states (not just Yunta).

The footy Grand Final was scheduled to end at 5pm eastern standard time, which is 4:30pm in South Australia. IIRC it did not go into overtime as it was a clear win for the Lions.

Also of note is that neither of the teams playing in the Grand Final was a South Australian team. Our Adelaide Crows almost made it, but didn't.


The 2025 AFL Grand Final will take place on Saturday, 27 September at 2.30pm AEST, and should finish around 5pm, depending on quarter lengths and whether extra time is required.

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[tedtink]

Just to be clear, the whole state of SA is ½ an hour behind the Eastern states (not just Yunta).

The footy Grand Final was scheduled to end at 5pm eastern standard time, which is 4:30pm in South Australia. IIRC it did not go into overtime as it was a clear win for the Lions.

Also of note is that neither of the teams playing in the Grand Final was a South Australian team. Our Adelaide Crows almost made it, but didn't.


The 2025 AFL Grand Final will take place on Saturday, 27 September at 2.30pm AEST, and should finish around 5pm, depending on quarter lengths and whether extra time is required.

2025 AFL Grand Final ultimate guide: Geelong Cats vs Brisbane Lions, Snoop Dogg to sausage rolls | RACV

Whether you’re heading to the Grand Final parade, the big game, or watching from the couch, here’s everything you need to know.

www.racv.com.au

Thank you so much
ETA - That refutes the theory of the siren sounding and/or match finishing at 5pm and being a reference point for the time G'Ma checked on Gus IMO.

 

[Fantastic]

I was reading the Daily Mail website article on this case. It seems a reasonable summary of what's happened and the circumstances leading up to the disappearance. Just visiting here to see what my fellow Webslueths think.

I agree with many posts I've seen so far, at this stage I'm also inclined to think Gus is somewhere on the property, in the house, or in one of the outbuildings. I hope he's found, or his body recovered soon. May God Bless and cherish him, wherever he is.

The mystery of angelic Gus, 4, who disappeared in the Outback

His grandmother says she saw him playing there at 5pm two Saturday evenings ago.Half an hour later, when Gus was called in for dinner, he had gone.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Hercule Holmes]

Thank you so much
ETA - That refutes the theory of the siren sounding and/or match finishing at 5pm and being a reference point for the time G'Ma checked on Gus IMO.

If you were to use the grand final as a feasible distraction for a number of people, the timeline actually makes some sense.

The game itself finished just after 5pm Vic time, which is 4:30 in SA. Then they show the after-match presentations up to the 6pm news in Vic, which is obviously 5:30 in SA. As others have said, the GF is synonymous with drinking beer.

If anyone was watching the GF in that area of the shearing sheds, it may have been quite loud and attracted a young boys interest?

I'm not sure exactly what I'm allowed to say here, but not all offences against kids involve a vehicle. Brett Cowan committed an offence prior to Daniel Morecombe, where he assaulted the boy and placed him in a car that was part of a scrap heap. Thankfully that boy actually survived.

 

[Thoughtful123]

I was reading the Daily Mail website article on this case. It seems a reasonable summary of what's happened and the circumstances leading up to the disappearance. Just visiting here to see what my fellow Webslueths think.

I agree with many posts I've seen so far, at this stage I'm also inclined to think Gus is somewhere on the property, in the house, or in one of the outbuildings. I hope he's found, or his body recovered soon. May God Bless and cherish him, wherever he is.

The mystery of angelic Gus, 4, who disappeared in the Outback

His grandmother says she saw him playing there at 5pm two Saturday evenings ago.Half an hour later, when Gus was called in for dinner, he had gone.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I agree, I have been reading about thermal imaging capability. I am sure if Gus was above ground, hidden by shrub or land undulations he would have been found by now using the thermal SAR drone (which I am assuming is what was used). These drones cannot penetrate buildings or see underground, so there is still a great possibility that he is somewhere in a building, or under the surface somewhere on the property. This is a devastating and protracted search, I feel so much for the family, community and search teams. I hope Gus is found soon and the family can grieve in peace.

 

[inkpink]

Thank you so much
ETA - That refutes the theory of the siren sounding and/or match finishing at 5pm and being a reference point for the time G'Ma checked on Gus IMO.

The last quarter was pretty hohum and not something that kept you glued to the game, unless you were a Brisbane Lions supporter.

However, after the siren would have been a lot more interesting, particularly at the medal presentations for each player.

That's when our eagle eyes come out to make sure the handshake and cap placement to the auskickers is following protocol

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[Dotta]

If you were to use the grand final as a feasible distraction for a number of people, the timeline actually makes some sense.

The game itself finished just after 5pm Vic time, which is 4:30 in SA. Then they show the after-match presentations up to the 6pm news in Vic, which is obviously 5:30 in SA. As others have said, the GF is synonymous with drinking beer.

If anyone was watching the GF in that area of the shearing sheds, it may have been quite loud and attracted a young boys interest?

I'm not sure exactly what I'm allowed to say here, but not all offences against kids involve a vehicle. Brett Cowan committed an offence prior to Daniel Morecombe, where he assaulted the boy and placed him in a car that was part of a scrap heap. Thankfully that boy actually survived.

I agree.

It would be just a curious coincidence
that the boy vanished on the day of high spirits (metaphorically & literally - if you know what I mean).

A day so different
than everyday boring routine with regular & predictable activities.

Besides,
I guess the times given by family might have been approximate.

I'm still convinced GFinal mattered.

But,
who really knows?

JMO

 

[Lucy.D]

This is the track that heads directly west from Oak Park Station, also linking to the Barrier Highway, and this one does not seem to pass that closely by any other homesteads before the highway. It also looks to have a few gates enroute.

Zooming in it looks pretty rough in parts, and more gates. Likely 4wd only but most people out there would be travelling in 4wd anyway.

Having worked on large farms it’s pretty common to drive yourself home after plenty of beers - there’s no taxis or Ubers out there.

So a loose theory <modsnip> - someone is back-tracking home drink driving after watching the grand final and having a few beers with mates at one of the many homesteads along those tracks. Maybe heading for the western track away from town, as I’m sure police in Yunta would be breath testing drivers on grand final day. Gus is wandering on the track not far from home on his little adventure and gets accidentally hit, and then a cover up results. Police have some idea along these lines, maybe even some evidence, and are looking into phone pings etc but keeping it on the downlow while they zero in on their suspect. IMO - pure theory only, and a loose one at that.

<modsnip>

I don't think that's a loose theory at all. That is exactly how I imagine Samantha Murphy disappeared. I hope police have realised that is a definite possibility. With the likelihood of sheep being on the road, no local is going to travel Oak Park Road without a roo bar and so there wouldn't be any damage to a vehicle making it harder to find the culprit if it happened this way. IMO

 

[Lucy.D]

If Oak Park Road is a public access route then it's certainly possible to have gates and so I was wrong about not having any gates.
There are gates on some country roads in South Australia, particularly on private property or on Public Access Routes (PARs) that may be temporarily closed for livestock or public safety. While major highways are generally clear, many unsealed or remote roads, especially those leading to pastoral leases, will have gates that drivers are expected to open and close.
Public Access Routes (PARs):
These are roads that cross pastoral lands and are often gated. Visitors must check for closures before traveling and be prepared to open and close gates they encounter.

 

[BreakingNews]

I can't see anything more coming of this case, without a major police announcement. Poor Gus.

 

[Lady-J]

the family would have been questioned extensively by now. Lie detector tests are not used in Australia.

Unless someone outside of those who live with him saw him on that day, he could have been gone for days or a lot longer before being reported missing.

Absolutely
I wonder when his father last spoke to him

 

[Lady-J]

1 year old's aren't left alone to play in dirt piles. I guess that's the difference.

But im speculating that by danger he meant more generally as in the freedom to roam.

I guess we won't know what he actually meant until he clarifies. It seems like it was a pretty major concern though!

Did the father really say that or has it been made up?

 

[Lady-J]

A valid point, no doubt... But it's still strange...

Was it a statement? or a claim?
Did they say it as if it was a fact? or as if it was their own opinion?

The woman said it as a fact

 

[JLZ]

If Oak Park Road is a public access route then it's certainly possible to have gates and so I was wrong about not having any gates.
There are gates on some country roads in South Australia, particularly on private property or on Public Access Routes (PARs) that may be temporarily closed for livestock or public safety. While major highways are generally clear, many unsealed or remote roads, especially those leading to pastoral leases, will have gates that drivers are expected to open and close.
Public Access Routes (PARs):
These are roads that cross pastoral lands and are often gated. Visitors must check for closures before traveling and be prepared to open and close gates they encounter.

I believe I can see some of those gates on Sturt Vale Road. For example here: Yunta · South Australia 5440, Australia
(I changed link to reorient so up is north)

 

[Ellery84]

Did the father really say that or has it been made up?

This was said by the father's friend, according to the Daily Mail.

Afaik the father hasn't sued the Daily Mail for defamation, and it's been reported as fact, so we can assume the assertion has gone through some fact-checking processes at the Daily Mail before being published. They are a major news organisation. I'm sure they have an editor and a legal department. Imo

 

[essareem]

If Oak Park Road is a public access route then it's certainly possible to have gates and so I was wrong about not having any gates.
There are gates on some country roads in South Australia, particularly on private property or on Public Access Routes (PARs) that may be temporarily closed for livestock or public safety. While major highways are generally clear, many unsealed or remote roads, especially those leading to pastoral leases, will have gates that drivers are expected to open and close.
Public Access Routes (PARs):
These are roads that cross pastoral lands and are often gated. Visitors must check for closures before traveling and be prepared to open and close gates they encounter.

Here in QLD you can go through them freely on public roads, and I've always been told the rule is if you find it open, leave it open - if you find it closed, close it after yourself.

 

[Ellery84]

Thank you so much
ETA - That refutes the theory of the siren sounding and/or match finishing at 5pm and being a reference point for the time G'Ma checked on Gus IMO.

The AFL Grand final game finished at 5:22pm Melbourne time. 8 minutes before Josie apparently called out for Gus to come in for dinner.

The Norm Smith medal winner was announced at 5:38pm Melbourne time.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-grand-final-live-updates-of-brisbane-lions-vs-geelong-cats/live-coverage/88e15d456a0aad92b1f3d8ca35cf9b45

"There was earlier a scary moment for Cats supporters when Jeremy Cameron had a head on crash with Patrick Dangerfield.

The decision to keep Cameron on the field as AFL medical staff watched footage of the incident has angered some fans."

This injury occured at 4:26pm, as per the article timeline presented.

 

[SouthAussie]

The AFL Grand final game finished at 5:22pm Melbourne time. 8 minutes before Josie apparently called out for Gus to come in for dinner.

The Norm Smith medal winner was announced at 5:38pm Melbourne time.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-grand-final-live-updates-of-brisbane-lions-vs-geelong-cats/live-coverage/88e15d456a0aad92b1f3d8ca35cf9b45

So, it finished at 4:52pm in South Australia. Gus last apparently seen at around 5pm in South Australia.

5:08pm in South Australia for the Norm Smith medal winner announcement. Gus called out to at around 5:30pm, but he wasn't there.

imo

 

[Ellery84]

Thank you South Aussie.

I'm glad we have a solid timeline for the game now.