Australia Australia - Celine Cremer, 31, Belgium backpacker, car found at the Philosopher’s fall track, Waratah, Tasmania, 12 June 2023

[Martinie]

Remains have been found

'I went into shock': Celine Cremer searcher finds human remains

The bushwalker who found human remains while searching for missing Belgian tourist Celine Cremer says he "went into shock" after coming across bones in dense Tasmanian forest.

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A bushwalker has located human remains near the Philosopher Falls area in Waratah on Tasmania's west coast, where tourist Celine Cremer went missing in 2023, according to Tasmania Police.

It is such a sad discovery, but atleast her family and friends can have some closure after finally finding her

 

[Doesitmakesense]

It is such a sad discovery, but atleast her family and friends can have some closure after finally finding her

Completely agree. I think it would be horrible to never know what happened and always wonder

 

[nao]

Moo...is it confirmed it is her?

 

[drsleuth]

What an amazing effort by the searchers, such dedication.

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RIP Celine

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Moo...is it confirmed it is her?

Not yet.
Forensic testing is being carried out.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

'I went into shock': Celine Cremer searcher finds human remains

The bushwalker who found human remains while searching for missing Belgian tourist Celine Cremer says he "went into shock" after coming across bones in dense Tasmanian forest.

www.abc.net.au

What's next?​

Forensic testing of the remains is taking place to confirm the identity, with police to hold a press conference on Thursday. Police say they have notified Ms Cremer's family in Belgium of the discovery.

 

[Rocket333]

'I went into shock': Celine Cremer searcher finds human remains

The bushwalker who found human remains while searching for missing Belgian tourist Celine Cremer says he "went into shock" after coming across bones in dense Tasmanian forest.

www.abc.net.au

What's next?​

Forensic testing of the remains is taking place to confirm the identity, with police to hold a press conference on Thursday. Police say they have notified Ms Cremer's family in Belgium of the discovery.

“Mr Boys said the remains were found about two hours' walking distance from where other items were discovered in December, in an area the search party had not been through.”

Wow!

 

[iamshadow21]

Well, I was starting to worry that that guy was starting to lose sight of Celine and creeping into doing it for himself and his own publicity.

More than happy to eat crow over that. Celine going home to her family is worth it all.

MOO

 

[Malleeboy]

Is the mystery of missing tourist Celine Cremer at an end?

The two-and-a-half year search for a missing Belgian tourist has led to the discovery of bones, which may mean closure is not far away.

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Quote from this article, "the body parts were found about three kilometers north-east of the Philosopher Falls car park, alongside the Arthur River."

Sounds like she followed the river. Only made it about halfway to where the Magnet Rd crosses the Arthur River.

 

[Chiatos]

The body parts were found about three kilometres north-east of the Philosopher Falls car park, alongside the Arthur River.

"The bones that I saw were just lying on top of a pile of soil and stones," Mr Boys said.

Is the mystery of missing tourist Celine Cremer at an end?

The two-and-a-half year search for a missing Belgian tourist has led to the discovery of bones, which may mean closure is not far away.

www.abc.net.au

Well done. RIP Celine.

 

[Rocket333]

The body parts were found about three kilometres north-east of the Philosopher Falls car park, alongside the Arthur River.

"The bones that I saw were just lying on top of a pile of soil and stones," Mr Boys said.

Is the mystery of missing tourist Celine Cremer at an end?

The two-and-a-half year search for a missing Belgian tourist has led to the discovery of bones, which may mean closure is not far away.

www.abc.net.au

Well done. RIP Celine.

If that is Celine, it’s weird that she went north east, especially if she was using a compass, as the carpark is south. Feels like a long walk in tough conditions and in the wrong direction. Possibly frozen, disoriented & just following the river. Wonder why Jarrod even headed that way and so far away from Rob’s search areas and where the phone was found.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

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Remains found in years-long search for Belgian tourist​

Police believe she got lost trying to find her way back to her car.

 

[Grouse]

If that is Celine, it’s weird that she went north east, especially if she was using a compass, as the carpark is south. Feels like a long walk in tough conditions and in the wrong direction. Possibly frozen, disoriented & just following the river. Wonder why Jarrod even headed that way and so far away from Rob’s search areas and where the phone was found.

If I've got this right looking on google maps just now, a point 3km NE of the car park (not the falls), by the river, is not actually that far from where Rob was searching in the last video. It's a bit further east along the river.

On the map shown at 01:55 with the three footprint images it looks to me to be somewhere around where the rightmost footprint is, or maybe a bit further east.

 

[scandinavian girl]

A compass technically points north and south everywhere, but a standard Northern Hemisphere compass (like those for Europe) won't work well in Australia because the needle's magnetic inclination (dip) is different, causing it to drag or jam; you need a specially weighted "MS" (Magnetic South) balanced compass for Australia or a "Global" compass to avoid inaccurate readings in either region (Google AI)

I was wondering if an european compass would work the same in Australia. I would have thought it was the same so maybe that what went wrong.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

'Very difficult time' after remains found in search for Belgian tourist who went missing in 2023

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'Very difficult time' for family after remains found in search for Belgian tourist who went missing in 2023​

Relatives of a Belgian tourist missing for more than two years in the Tasmanian bush are going through a "very difficult time" following the discovery of human remains in the area where she disappeared.

Celine Cremer's sister Amelie called the discovery a "significant step forward in the search" but warned supporters nothing was confirmed until DNA analysis was carried out.

"We ask everyone to be respectful and patient, and to wait for the experts' conclusions before sharing any erroneous or premature information," she said, in a post on Facebook.

"We are going through this very difficult time and ask you to avoid any inappropriate curiosity.

"Official information will be released in due course."

She thanked family and friends for their support, describing it as "invaluable to us during this ordeal".

 

[Ann1987]

This story wasn't going to have a happy ending, but it's some solace her loved ones are looking to get closure.

From the interview Jarrod gave:

Yeah, so I started near where the bottle was found. And I went from the water race northeast, travelled for about two hours from there at a pretty good pace. So it was about three kilometres.

Searcher recounts moment he found human remains at Philosopher Falls - ABC listen

And ABC clarified in their news article:

The body parts were found about three kilometres north-east of the Philosopher Falls car park, alongside the Arthur River.

Is the mystery of missing tourist Celine Cremer at an end?

Playing around on satellites pro, that would place the discovery around here:

 

[Ann1987]

from the live press conference by Tas Pol just now:

"If these remainsturn out to be Celine Cremer, that location is consistent with ourtheory that potentially she could have been trying to reach the road and may have done so by moving towards the river, knowing thatfollowing it downstream may eventually lead to that road."

Police to return to site tomorrow by helicopter​

He says six experts will again fly to the site of the remains tomorrow via helicopter due to the length of time it would take to walk into the remote terrain.

Those experts will continue searching the river area.

"They're going to be inserted approximately 400-500 metres downstream of where the remains were located, and they will then walk up the river in a what is effectively a line search."
The bushwalker who found the remains, Jarrod Boys, has previously theorised that the remains he found were washed downstream, as they were deposited on a dry part of the riverbank.

Inspector Hanson says there is no need for any diving equipment and searchers will wade through the river.

Lower jaw bone found, several weeks for identity​

As I understand it, the process now will be the boneswill be sent to a pathologist who will conduct a report and a review.

They will then go to an anthropologist for a similar process.

Thebones will then go to an odontologist (teeth specialist) who will conduct those dentalcomparisons with records that we are currently in the process ofobtaining through (mother) Ariane from Belgium.

And the last part of thatchain is that the bones then get sent to Forensic Science Services Tasmania for DNA testing.

No other items found with remains to confirm the identiy​

Inspector Hanson says a pathologist confirmed the remains were human but not other items were found with the bones that would determine an identity.

Police detail discovery of remains in private Celine Cremer search

Police are holding a media conference in Tasmania, following the shock discovery of human bones in the remote area where a Belgian backpacker went missing more than two years ago.

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[TootsieFootsie]

Police detail discovery of remains in private Celine Cremer search

Police are holding a media conference in Tasmania, following the shock discovery of human bones in the remote area where a Belgian backpacker went missing more than two years ago.

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Tasmania Police discussing potential discovery of Celine Cremer's remains in bushland​

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