Australia - JS, 32 y.o. man, charged w/ murder of 9 y.o. girl , Mt Wilson, 13 January 2022 #2

[JLZ]

I hope that the cctv from the cameras on his route has been accessed and not deleted. Not to be graphic but my head hurts at the image of him getting the body of CM into any of those containers. I have also been wondering if a gun would ever turn up, so easy to toss into a body of water.., also I can’t find the link but at one stage wasn’t there a photo of divers examining a large pond ?
I wonder if CM had any friends she communicated with on line ... I know my kids do , and are apps such as snap chat capable of storing deleted locations or messages ? Has there been any more info about the Tuesday prior or indeed the movements on the Weds? Did JS call anyone during Weds?

This is hardly a better image but I've wondered if CM was in the barrel when she was shot.

 

[Doesitmakesense]

This is hardly a better image but I've wondered if CM was in the barrel when she was shot.

I've actually thought about this too, it would explain LE not being able to find a location

 

[Sdow]

I have had rigor mortis on my mind the last couple of days - as a possible reason JS did not attempt to dispose of CM’s remains earlier (if she was not shot in the barrel, although I would imagine you would need to break some bones in order to fit in one I would think). Rigor mortis sets in as early as 2 hours after death and doesn’t resolve until at least 36 hours after death. He either had to place CM in a barrel early on or on day 2/3 which would coincide with Thursday. Given the detached method of death I struggle to believe he would have done anything other than place her in the barrel (as opposed to dismantle her body). I may be wrong in that belief as so much has of this case is beyond imagining.

Link to rigor mortis info below.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0300985816629720

 

[SLouTh]

Time Line for JS and the "Missing Time" on CCTV...
Please feel free to update with links where required...

Thursday
13th Jan

Time Unknown
JS leaves Wildenstein
Red Holden Colorado ute with the boat attached and CM's body in a plastic barrel covered with a blue tarpaulin in the back of the ute.

Detectives released CCTV footage of which allegedly shows JS's red Holden Colorado ute with a barrel-shaped object in the back under a blue tarpaulin towing a white boat around various Sydney locations.
C M's mum HAS now been interviewed by police who say girl killed with 'small rifle' | Daily Mail Online


5:30pm
JS arrives at Bunnings Marsden Park and purchases 5x20kg bags of sand

5:50pm
JS Leaves Bunnings Marsden Park

5:53pm
JS Arrives at BP truck stop Marsden Park Richmond Rd

Police allege JS was behind the wheel when the red ute visited the BP service station at Marsden Park, in northwestern Sydney at 5.53pm on Thursday, January 13.
C M's mum HAS now been interviewed by police who say girl killed with 'small rifle' | Daily Mail Online

One video showed the car and trailer at the BP service station on Richmond Road in Marsden Park just before 6pm on January 13.
C M updates: Gun missing after police reveal nine-year-old was shot | Daily Telegraph


From the BP Servo, it is at 40 minute drive to Five Dock boat ramp on the Parramatta River in inner western Sydney, where he is said to have failed to launch the motor boat, because it was 'inoperable'.
C M's mum HAS now been interviewed by police who say girl killed with 'small rifle' | Daily Mail Online
Time Gap?

7:17pm
Corner of Victoria Rd and Lyons Rd Drummoyne, stopped at the lights.

A subsequent video showed the same car and trailer pull up to a set of lights on Victoria Road in Drummoyne at 7.17pm the same evening.
C M updates: Gun missing after police reveal nine-year-old was shot | Daily Telegraph

7:20pm
CCTV from 18 Bayswater St Drummoyne

It was picked up again just three minutes later on Bayswater Road by a home’s security camera, heading towards Drummoyne’s Five Dock Bay Boat Ramp.
C M: Ute and boat captured on CCTV in murder inquiry (9news.com.au)

7:20 - 9:50pm
Five Dock Boat Ramp

Drummoyne Parking lot, Bayswater St, Drummoyne NSW 2047
Police allege he spent more than two hours trying but failing to launch the boat which was 'inoperable', and left around 9.50pm.
C M's mum HAS now been interviewed by police who say girl killed with 'small rifle' | Daily Mail Online

Time Gap

Friday
14th Jan

1:30am - 1:40am
Windsor boat ramp Livingston St Windsor

He then allegedly drove the ute, with the barrel in the back and boat towed behind to Windsor boat ramp where he was allegedly captured on CCTV between 1.30 and 1.40am, and then after 2.25am near the Colo River Park bridge off the Putty Road.
C M's mum HAS now been interviewed by police who say girl killed with 'small rifle' | Daily Mail Online

2:25am - 2:30am
Colo River Putty Road


2:37am - 2:46am
Lower Colo Road - dumps CM

“When you see the CCTV footage there’s a tarp on the back of the ute. What I can also say is that at some stage after leaving the Colo River, that item wasn’t on the ute when it stopped at another service station on Bells Line Road at Kurmond,” he said.
C M updates: Gun missing after police reveal nine-year-old was shot | Daily Telegraph

Wildenstein 1h 10mins drive approx

 

[Sdow]

Time Line for JS and the "Missing Time" on CCTV...
Please feel free to update with links where required...

Thursday
13th Jan

Time Unknown
JS leaves Wildenstein
Red Holden Colorado ute with the boat attached and CM's body in a plastic barrel covered with a blue tarpaulin in the back of the ute.

Detectives released CCTV footage of which allegedly shows JS's red Holden Colorado ute with a barrel-shaped object in the back under a blue tarpaulin towing a white boat around various Sydney locations.
C M's mum HAS now been interviewed by police who say girl killed with 'small rifle' | Daily Mail Online


5:30pm
JS arrives at Bunnings Marsden Park and purchases 5x20kg bags of sand

5:50pm
JS Leaves Bunnings Marsden Park

5:53pm
JS Arrives at BP truck stop Marsden Park Richmond Rd

Police allege JS was behind the wheel when the red ute visited the BP service station at Marsden Park, in northwestern Sydney at 5.53pm on Thursday, January 13.
C M's mum HAS now been interviewed by police who say girl killed with 'small rifle' | Daily Mail Online

One video showed the car and trailer at the BP service station on Richmond Road in Marsden Park just before 6pm on January 13.
C M updates: Gun missing after police reveal nine-year-old was shot | Daily Telegraph


From the BP Servo, it is at 40 minute drive to Five Dock boat ramp on the Parramatta River in inner western Sydney, where he is said to have failed to launch the motor boat, because it was 'inoperable'.
C M's mum HAS now been interviewed by police who say girl killed with 'small rifle' | Daily Mail Online
Time Gap?

7:17pm
Corner of Victoria Rd and Lyons Rd Drummoyne, stopped at the lights.

A subsequent video showed the same car and trailer pull up to a set of lights on Victoria Road in Drummoyne at 7.17pm the same evening.
C M updates: Gun missing after police reveal nine-year-old was shot | Daily Telegraph

7:20pm
CCTV from 18 Bayswater St Drummoyne

It was picked up again just three minutes later on Bayswater Road by a home’s security camera, heading towards Drummoyne’s Five Dock Bay Boat Ramp.
C M: Ute and boat captured on CCTV in murder inquiry (9news.com.au)

7:20 - 9:50pm
Five Dock Boat Ramp

Drummoyne Parking lot, Bayswater St, Drummoyne NSW 2047
Police allege he spent more than two hours trying but failing to launch the boat which was 'inoperable', and left around 9.50pm.
C M's mum HAS now been interviewed by police who say girl killed with 'small rifle' | Daily Mail Online

Time Gap

Friday
14th Jan

1:30am - 1:40am
Windsor boat ramp Livingston St Windsor

He then allegedly drove the ute, with the barrel in the back and boat towed behind to Windsor boat ramp where he was allegedly captured on CCTV between 1.30 and 1.40am, and then after 2.25am near the Colo River Park bridge off the Putty Road.
C M's mum HAS now been interviewed by police who say girl killed with 'small rifle' | Daily Mail Online

2:25am - 2:30am
Colo River Putty Road


2:37am - 2:46am
Lower Colo Road - dumps CM

“When you see the CCTV footage there’s a tarp on the back of the ute. What I can also say is that at some stage after leaving the Colo River, that item wasn’t on the ute when it stopped at another service station on Bells Line Road at Kurmond,” he said.
C M updates: Gun missing after police reveal nine-year-old was shot | Daily Telegraph

Wildenstein 1h 10mins drive approx

Big gap between 9.50 and 1.30. Hope they’ve been able to source footage from this time.

 

[SLouTh]

This is hardly a better image but I've wondered if CM was in the barrel when she was shot.

I have also wondered this...... however I have also wondered if a bullet would also perforate the barrel???
As a small child would not offer a lot of resistance???

Depending on the size of the barrel she could have been crouched down hiding in there????

All just terrible thoughts.... sorry hope it doesn't offend...
IMO

 

[Sdow]

I have also wondered this...... however I have also wondered if a bullet would also perforate the barrel???
As a small child would not offer a lot of resistance???

Depending on the size of the barrel she could have been crouched down hiding in there????

All just terrible thoughts.... sorry hope it doesn't offend...
IMO

Yeah not a nice topic but something we need to consider. Someone upthread said the bullet may have lodged in the body? One spot that may happen is in the head I’m guessing? From a far enough distance but not too far? Im still hoping she was asleep when it happened but that may be wishful.

 

[Sdow]

All just terrible thoughts.... sorry hope it doesn't offend...
IMO

All of this is horrible to think about unfortunately. From when she left her GM all the way to the discovery of her poor body. Just hoping justice will prevail for our sweet girl.

 

[SLouTh]

Yeah not a nice topic but something we need to consider. Someone upthread said the bullet may have lodged in the body? One spot that may happen is in the head I’m guessing? From a far enough distance but not too far? Im still hoping she was asleep when it happened but that may be wishful.

As the sand was a relatively late purchase, in comparison to the estimated time of death, you would think that if CM was shot in the barrel there should be a "crime scene" of blood splatter etc on the inside of the barrel??? As blood would have dried, sticking to the inside of the barrel by the time the sand was added.... IYKWIM???

IMO / Speculation

 

[Sdow]

As the sand was a relatively late purchase, in comparison to the estimated time of death, you would think that if CM was shot in the barrel there should be a "crime scene" of blood splatter etc on the inside of the barrel??? As blood would have dried, sticking to the inside of the barrel by the time the sand was added.... IYKWIM???

IMO / Speculation

Yes agreed.

 

[SLouTh]

Im still hoping she was asleep when it happened but that may be wishful

Yes me too ..... I hope she knew nothing about it....

I think it would be fairly mentally challenging to pull a trigger on an awake child, could he really do that?? I'm hoping not .....

imo

 

[SLouTh]

Big gap between 9.50 and 1.30. Hope they’ve been able to source footage from this time.

I think it would be helpful to jog peoples memories if they showed some CCTV footage after Five Dock when possibly the boat cover was removed???
Assuming, JS removed the cover at this time, to try and start the boat???
JMO

 

[Sdow]

Yes me too ..... I hope she knew nothing about it....

I think it would be fairly mentally challenging to pull a trigger on an awake child, could he really do that?? I'm hoping not .....

imo

It’s not something a normal person would do, no, but I guess it does happen. If that’s the case though then two scenarios that come to mind is anger and psychosis. Also possibly fear and panic. Could be way off but they’re the only ones to make sense, unless you have someone who is very cold and calculated.

 

[deugirtni]

No I believe the photo was taken at the RFS Command Post that was set up..... if you compare the building in this early video....

Nine-year-old girl missing for more than 36 hours (9news.com.au)
imo

Actually @SLouTh, agreed, Command Post @ Mt. Wilson. Motto: never trust some media

(imo)

Thank you for the video. In the linked video around 0:25, it says they consoled Mom at the 'search centre'.. it didn't look like the Wildenstein property to me, although news reports seemed to indicate that mom was questioned AT Wildenstein.. was the Command Post set up at Wildenstein, and if so, was the 'search centre' a part of the Command Post, and would they have erected fencing, posts, buildings, etc., there?

 

[SLouTh]

Thank you for the video. In the linked video around 0:25, it says they consoled Mom at the 'search centre'.. it didn't look like the Wildenstein property to me, although news reports seemed to indicate that mom was questioned AT Wildenstein.. was the Command Post set up at Wildenstein, and if so, was the 'search centre' a part of the Command Post, and would they have erected fencing, posts, buildings, etc., there?

This is my own opinion only, as it is difficult to tell from early reports, but it seems KM was at Wildenstein when Police arrived, she was then taken to the RFS Command Center, as they made Wildenstein a crime scene very early, (with Police guard) and it was from the Command Center, that KM went to hospital ...

NSW Police seemed to ensure that the Wildenstein address was not contaminated very early on ...unlike the WT case.....

IMO

 

[FlossyMay]

If she was sleeping in a bed when she was shot, that would have left quite a mess to clean up and I would imagine LE would have found that evidence right away.

 

[SLouTh]

If she was sleeping in a bed when she was shot, that would have left quite a mess to clean up and I would imagine LE would have found that evidence right away.

Yes I would tend to agree.... however if the estimated time of death by Police is correct he may have had 2 days to clean up??? But in all honesty I think it would be extremely difficult not to leave some kind of trace...
Is there any furniture missing??? Even a lounge?? Or a floor rug??
All imo

 

[Avi jade]

I'm wondering about local campgrounds more so fire pits at campgrounds as a means of possible disposal of anything that could have been incriminating like sheets etc.

Does anyone know of any along his route?

 

[MysteriousNoblewoman]

I’m having a hard time coming up with even one reason for shooting a 9-year old girl. Like what could ever happen that would lead to that. It’s such a brutal, callous and definite decision that can only be done if you want to kill.

 

[Liadan]

I’m having a hard time coming up with even one reason for shooting a 9-year old girl. Like what could ever happen that would lead to that. It’s such a brutal, callous and definite decision that can only be done if you want to kill.

I think that this is a very, very pertinent question!
But at the same time these people probably don't have a conscience so keeping things clean for their story is a priority. This is PURE speculation but think about how CM could be of value to someone who uses. It is just diabolical. And I pray the sweet thing was kept out of these interactions.