Found Deceased Australia - Karen Ristevski, 47, Melbourne, Vic, 29 June 2016 - #10

[they'll get you]

I am hoping it was not Karen herself. If rigor mortis had set in, and she couldn't easily be placed in the boot .....

Surely the shovel would have fit in the boot, after looking at TGY's pic further back-thread.

OMG I thought of Chevy Chase in National Lampoon Vacation with the dead grandmother tied to the roof racks. This is awful Muriel.
No really I'm sorry but...

 

[they'll get you]

(snipped)

Probably. I see a kind of alarmed face with glasses and frizzy fairish hair. Surely an illusion.

Squint and look at the photo. It's Borce!

What a fantastic little car. Yummy! Anyone would love to own it and I bet it was Karen's pride and joy. To be thrown in the back of your own car and be driven to a bush grave is beyond sadness.

 

[JLZ]

Squint and look at the photo. It's Borce!

Close your eyes and look at the photo. It's . . . oh no! Open, fast.

At least he's got his clothes on.

 

[rosie84]

Hi everyone. Long time reader, first time poster.

Not sure if this has already been questioned, but is there a possibility that SR is being covered for by BR?

Just a thought that popped up in my mind last night after all of this new information.
She apparently was having heated arguments with mum.
Those iPad key words seem like they come from someone younger who was googling away.
Wouldn't take that phone call from Hili as was apparently too distraught? (Seems a bit odd it you were worried about your mother)
Refuses to talk with police.
Her overall behaviour seems a bit strange.
Going away overseas with a friend with the one year anniversary coming up?

Say SR and KR had an argument about finances and she was accidently pushed down the stairs ending in an unfortunate situation.
Then the father protecting his daughter decides to take the brunt. Covering all tracks and wanting to keep his daughter safe and in uni, full life ahead etc etc etc.

In no way am I pointing any fingers.
Was a mere thought that popped up in my head.

 

[CalliopeGG]

Hi everyone. Long time reader, first time poster.

Not sure if this has already been questioned, but is there a possibility that SR is being covered for by BR?

Just a thought that popped up in my mind last night after all of this new information.
She apparently was having heated arguments with mum.
Those iPad key words seem like they come from someone younger who was googling away.
Wouldn't take that phone call from Hili as was apparently too distraught? (Seems a bit odd it you were worried about your mother)
Refuses to talk with police.
Her overall behaviour seems a bit strange.
Going away overseas with a friend with the one year anniversary coming up?

Say SR and KR had an argument about finances and she was accidently pushed down the stairs ending in an unfortunate situation.
Then the father protecting his daughter decides to take the brunt. Covering all tracks and wanting to keep his daughter safe and in uni, full life ahead etc etc etc.

In no way am I pointing any fingers.
Was a mere thought that popped up in my head.

Hello Rosie and welcome. Thanks for your contribution. Yes, we've entertained that theory a few times on here. It is a possible scenario. As long as you make sure you state it's just your idea, which you have, it's quite okay to hypothesise like this.

 

[matey]

Hello Rosie and welcome. Thanks for your contribution. Yes, we've entertained that theory a few times on here. It is a possible scenario. As long as you make sure you state it's just your idea, which you have, it's quite okay to hypothesise like this.

In other words Rosie, at the end of your possible scenario, just enter MOO (meaning My Opinion Only) or IMO (meaning In My Opinion) and....:welcome:

 

[rosie84]

In other words Rosie, at the end of your possible scenario, just enter MOO (meaning My Opinion Only) or IMO (meaning In My Opinion) and....:welcome:

Oh thank you for the heads up 😊
And thank you for the welcome!

 

[Chewie1]

But the message was sent the day following Karen's disappearance. So BR is assenting to disagreement on the day she disappeared but apparently not commenting on the time.

I find it strange, to put it mildly, that SR asked to be contacted if someone had seen Karen but then wouldn't deal with the call, which was only what she was asking for. You'd think she'd be relieved

I agree JLZ , hope and relief would come before distress

 

[Chewie1]

My point was that BR didn't say anything about a disagreement on 28th. It's interesting though that Ms Hili apparently immediately guessed at a tiff. As if BR and Karen were known to be having a few.

That's a very good point

 

[Itsapuzzle]

Has there been any positive proof, photo image, that it was BR driving KRs car that day to test the alleged faulty fuel gauge, do we know?

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[SouthAussie]

You know, there are kids who have killed their parent(s) on purpose. Too horrifying to imagine? I have seen it more than several times on the true-crime show 48 Hours.
However, I haven't yet seen anything about kids who won't speak with police, or a police counsellor, when their father is suspected of murdering their mother ... until now.

If a child had some kind of mental disorder - say unmedicated bipolar, or is a recreational user of ice, or is totally hooked on an upper-crust way of life - would the father not want to get them some mental health help? As opposed to covering up their crime for them.

I know that when Adelaide Crows coach Phil Walsh was murdered by his son in 2015, the Supreme Court found that his son was suffering from undiagnosed, untreated schizophrenia. Also, as the son was a young adult (26 at the time), doctors had not disclosed any of his problems to his family. So, they were caught completely unaware.

I only write this, because why does everyone assume that Karen's death was accidental - IF it was done at the hands of a 'child'?

Just food for thought.

“My heart remains broken, our daughter is devastated by the loss of her father,” her statement, read to the court, said.
“Our son Cy is also shattered by what happened and has to live with the consequences of his illness — an illness that has destroyed our loving family.
“We now all live with the devastating consequences of a mental illness that was not understood.”

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...s/news-story/ae12706aebb80c2462d7f41b853cc9c3

IMO JMO MOO

 

[Liadan]

just a thought - but I wonder if that camera footage of the car stills or even the video has been deliberately edited to not show the drivers outlines? The suspects might run?

 

[rosie84]

You know, there are kids who have killed their parent(s) on purpose. Too horrifying to imagine? I have seen it more than several times on the true-crime show 48 Hours.
However, I haven't yet seen anything about kids who won't speak with police, or a police counsellor, when their father is suspected of murdering their mother ... until now.

If a child had some kind of mental disorder - say unmedicated bipolar, or is a recreational user of ice, or is totally hooked on an upper-crust way of life - would the father not want to get them some mental health help? As opposed to covering up their crime for them.

I know that when Adelaide Crows coach Cy Jacob was murdered by his son in 2015 (?), the Supreme Court found that he was suffering from undiagnosed, untreated schizophrenia. Also, as the son was a young adult (25 at the time), doctors had not disclosed any of his problems to his family. So, they were caught completely unaware.

I only write this, because why does everyone assume that Karen's death was accidental - IF it was done at the hands of a 'child'?

Just food for thought.




IMO JMO MOO

That's a really stand out thought.
Certainly has me thinking!

 

[sosocurious]

You know, there are kids who have killed their parent(s) on purpose. Too horrifying to imagine? I have seen it more than several times on the true-crime show 48 Hours.
However, I haven't yet seen anything about kids who won't speak with police, or a police counsellor, when their father is suspected of murdering their mother ... until now.

If a child had some kind of mental disorder - say unmedicated bipolar, or is a recreational user of ice, or is totally hooked on an upper-crust way of life - would the father not want to get them some mental health help? As opposed to covering up their crime for them.

I know that when Adelaide Crows coach Phil Walsh was murdered by his son in 2015 (?), the Supreme Court found that his son was suffering from undiagnosed, untreated schizophrenia. Also, as the son was a young adult (25 at the time), doctors had not disclosed any of his problems to his family. So, they were caught completely unaware.

I only write this, because why does everyone assume that Karen's death was accidental - IF it was done at the hands of a 'child'?

Just food for thought.




IMO JMO MOO

Interesting SA.
Mental illness, drug use so many young people afflicted.

Your mention of Phil Walsh
So sad.

In his statement, Mr Watt says that was uncharacteristic of his old friend — as was his choice of attire.
“He was wearing his full Crows outfit, which he would never wear unless he was on his way to or from work,” he says.
“Phil said he ‘just needed to get out’ of the house and that Cy was agitated with him, he didn’t say why.”....................



http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...s/news-story/7e2d30f1334d82521eb6b88fee4f27b1

 

[sosocurious]

You know, there are kids who have killed their parent(s) on purpose. Too horrifying to imagine? I have seen it more than several times on the true-crime show 48 Hours.
However, I haven't yet seen anything about kids who won't speak with police, or a police counsellor, when their father is suspected of murdering their mother ... until now.

If a child had some kind of mental disorder - say unmedicated bipolar, or is a recreational user of ice, or is totally hooked on an upper-crust way of life - would the father not want to get them some mental health help? As opposed to covering up their crime for them.

I know that when Adelaide Crows coach Phil Walsh was murdered by his son in 2015, the Supreme Court found that his son was suffering from undiagnosed, untreated schizophrenia. Also, as the son was a young adult (26 at the time), doctors had not disclosed any of his problems to his family. So, they were caught completely unaware.

I only write this, because why does everyone assume that Karen's death was accidental - IF it was done at the hands of a 'child'?

Just food for thought.




IMO JMO MOO

When Sarah did the radio appeal in the early days.
I could not help but notice she said "I know you would never do this to ME." .
I will ask again do what?

www.9news.com.au/national/2016/07/14/07/54/police-ramp-up-search-for-missing-vic-mum

 

[decsimp]

When Sarah did the radio appeal in the early days.
I could not help but notice she said "I know you would never do this to ME." .
I will ask again do what?

www.9news.com.au/national/2016/07/14/07/54/police-ramp-up-search-for-missing-vic-mum

I think vr and br were suggesting to her that her mum has run away or self harmed. Then maybe he's broken doen and said it was an accident. My gut feeling is that she's not involved, except maybe for not telling police any after the fact information that she knows. Imo

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[SouthAussie]

“Phil said he ‘just needed to get out’ of the house and that Cy was agitated with him, he didn’t say why.”....................

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...s/news-story/7e2d30f1334d82521eb6b88fee4f27b1

RSBM ..... yes ^^^^.

These are some other things that have me vascillating...... along with not speaking with police, iPad searches, and other strange behaviours.

BBM

Insp Day confirmed Mr Ristevski is a suspect, but would not say if anyone else is being considered.

"I'll take out the word prime and say yes, he is a suspect," he said.

"Ultimately the person who's done this has a story to tell and generally only get one chance to tell it. I encourage them, if they're so inclined, to tell it now," he said.

http://www.themercury.com.au/news/b...r/news-story/0a0f21af0eda852a79ca04ae605c13fc

And for further thought .....

DI
Does it motivate you for people like Sarah to close cases like this?
Looks left/away from journalist. Popping mouth sound. Nods head. "It does." Nods head and looks left. "I think the truth is what motivates you.''

 

[SouthAussie]

I think vr and br were suggesting to her that her mum has run away or self harmed. Then maybe he's broken doen and said it was an accident. My gut feeling is that she's not involved, except maybe for not telling police any after the fact information that she knows. Imo

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Yes, it has taken me a while to step out of the box that Sarah is an innocent clammed-up bystander. But I have been re-reviewing her MSM pics, public appearances, and behaviours. I am just not so sure any more. Because DI Day's behaviour about Sarah, and removing PRIME from his suspect description of Borce, initiated a hinky feeling in me.

If she has something to do with Karen's death, I think her dad should be getting her some big help.

If she has nothing to do with the Karen's death, then her father needs to come forward, as it is looking less and less publicly good for his daughter.

IMO JMO MMO

 

[rosie84]

RSBM ..... yes ^^^^.

These are some other things that have me vascillating...... along with not speaking with police, iPad searches, and other strange behaviours.

BBM



And for further thought .....

I found their statement a really interesting choice of words. Almost like they're waiting for someone's conscience to give way.

"Ultimately the person who's done this has a story to tell and generally only get one chance to tell it. I encourage them, if they're so inclined, to tell it now,"

 

[CalliopeGG]

You know, there are kids who have killed their parent(s) on purpose. Too horrifying to imagine? I have seen it more than several times on the true-crime show 48 Hours.
However, I haven't yet seen anything about kids who won't speak with police, or a police counsellor, when their father is suspected of murdering their mother ... until now.

If a child had some kind of mental disorder - say unmedicated bipolar, or is a recreational user of ice, or is totally hooked on an upper-crust way of life - would the father not want to get them some mental health help? As opposed to covering up their crime for them.

I know that when Adelaide Crows coach Phil Walsh was murdered by his son in 2015, the Supreme Court found that his son was suffering from undiagnosed, untreated schizophrenia. Also, as the son was a young adult (26 at the time), doctors had not disclosed any of his problems to his family. So, they were caught completely unaware.

I only write this, because why does everyone assume that Karen's death was accidental - IF it was done at the hands of a 'child'?

Just food for thought.




IMO JMO MOO

I guess decent people find the alternative hard to contemplate. I watch an enormous amount of true crime and it is certainly something that happens more than one would think. There is usually mental illness, adoption, psychopathy, monetary gain, retribution, the parents don't like the boyfriend or a lack of bonding behind it. Think I've covered everything. SR seemed to be on very good terms with her mother until just prior to her disappearance from what we know. It is still something we can't rule out. I don't think she has ever been formally named as a POI in the case. Am I right? All JMO.