GUILTY Australia - Lisa Harnum, 30, killed in 15-story fall, Sydney, 30 July 2011 #4

[FigTree]

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Western Australian

I knew he'd get over 25ys (The West Australian)
I knew he d get over 25ys
Bad news: Rachelle Louise hears of Gittany's sentence.

There is a very small intro and the link doesn't seem to work - but the story is out there...

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[they'll get you]

Im thinking here that the is a difference in weight and body frame.
Thoughts?
Who looks 50kg's? Neither of them - LH looks below 50kg, and RL looks over 50 kgs.
JMO

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Shall I send that to channel7 before the journo unnecessarily bursts his boiler valve?
Oh my she's a 'two for the price of one deal'!
Lisa's a size 6 & RL is a 10-12.
Someone suggested RL was jealous of Lisa, now I'm a believer.

:truce:

 

[they'll get you]

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Western Australian



There is a very small intro and the link doesn't seem to work - but the story is out there...

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Can someone tell me where I can buy those eyebrows please?
I just gotta get me a pair!

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[fruity]

I've been searching for heights, can anyone help??

At 178cm Lisa was TINY, weighing 50kg. I'm 175cm and 62kg and my inlaws are forever trying to fatten me up!!

I see from photos that RL and SG are of a similar height but I can't find details. Unless she is very short she is not 50kg.

She is still absolutely fine - not heavy at all, I am NOT suggesting at all that she needs to be thinner, I'm just saying that in comparison, Lisa would have been much easier to pick up.

Sure 50kg is 50kg but weight distribution absolutely plays a part.

 

[fruity]

Shall I send that to channel7 before the journo unnecessarily bursts his boiler valve?
Oh my she's a 'two for the price of one deal'!
Lisa's a size 6 & RL is a 10-12.
Someone suggested RL was jealous of Lisa, now I'm a believer.

:truce:

Just for our American friends, size 6 (Australian) is size 2 in US sizes.

 

[they'll get you]

Just saw another advert on channel7 showing RL with a shocked disbelieving look on her face, either they prove her wrong or she's hearing the sentence.
They're playing good cop/bad cop - I think the bad cop is winning

 

[Fuskier]

I've been searching for heights, can anyone help??

At 178cm Lisa was TINY, weighing 50kg. I'm 175cm and 62kg and my inlaws are forever trying to fatten me up!!

I see from photos that RL and SG are of a similar height but I can't find details. Unless she is very short she is not 50kg.

She is still absolutely fine - not heavy at all, I am NOT suggesting at all that she needs to be thinner, I'm just saying that in comparison, Lisa would have been much easier to pick up.

Sure 50kg is 50kg but weight distribution absolutely plays a part.

Hi Fruity, in the Youtube video 'The Secret Life of Gittany' where SG and Lisa are standing together on the soccer field, we can observe that they are similar height. Also in the video of Lisa's conversion to Catholicism & the engagement party, we can observe her height & weight clearly. She is a significantly slighter frame than RL.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=izGDT-p5s4k

We can observe Lisa's height and weight in comparision to SG's here:

@17.38 Conversion to Catholicism

@ 22.00 Sports Field

@ 22.26 Engagement 6 weeks before her death

 

[fruity]

Hi Fruity, in the Youtube video 'The Secret Life of Gittany' where SG and Lisa are standing together on the soccer field, we can observe that they are similar height. Also in the video of Lisa's conversion to Catholicism & the engagement party, we can observe her height & weight clearly. She is a significantly slighter frame than RL.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=izGDT-p5s4k

We can observe Lisa's height and weight in comparision to SG's here:

@17.38 Conversion to Catholicism

@ 22.00 Sports Field

@ 22.26 Engagement 6 weeks before her death

Thank you so much for this!

If LH and SG were of similar heights, and RL and SG are of similar heights, I think we can conclude that RL is lying about her weight.

If she is 178cm tall I would guess that she is around 65kg, maybe slightly more. Again, I am not saying this to shame her, simply to highlight that Lisa would have been much easier to pick up.

 

[jimbob]

I don't usually get too involved in issues of what a woman weighs (if I can help it) but in this case I would have to agree. 50kg is really light...a lot of the top jockeys these days would struggle to make a 50kg weight limit. From my assessment of RL she would be closer to 60kg than 50kg.......just my two cents worth.

I know I raised this issue about being able to throw LH but I just cannot see it as relevant other than it might make good TV. Dr Gibson (the biomechanic for the defence) focused on throw/fall trajectories and said that a clear throw was not possible...but a throw nonetheless was possible...i.e even the defence accepted that the feat was possible and did not even present evidence to try to claim what RL is now trying to claim.....

Anecdotally if you surf the internet you can see what sort of claims are made for weight training and what one should be able to lift. SG from all accounts was into the gym and so would have had above average lifting capacity. 50kg seems to be easily achieved for anyone with a reasonable level of fitness and with a reasonable motivation to lift it!

 

[sleepinoz]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...losing-his-power/story-e6frg6n6-1226827580681

How Gittany the bully has been crushed by losing his power



A stable home did not stop Gittany becoming a killer

SIMON Gittany only sees now how shattering it can be when someone else holds all the control.

Since the 40-year-old convicted killer was hauled behind bars in the final days of his trial for murdering Lisa Harnum, power hasn’t been his to exercise — and, unsurprisingly, he hasn’t liked it.

There is a fitting irony that the man who a court heard once forced his fiancée to her knees and commanded she “submit” to him this week couldn’t stand or sit down in the dock until told to by the woman who this time around controlled his fate- NSW Supreme Court justice Lucy McCallum.

 

[KG1]

OMG' Channel 7 just contacted me
NF from channel 7 is very interested in this photo, he asked were I obtained it & he's looking at Webslueths now. I told him WS is highly moderated and we can only post with proof from MSM. He somehow vaguely recalls the photo but is extremely happy to have it.
Phew that was exciting!

One would have thought that Channel 7 would have completed proper research for this disgraceful checkbook journalism and already had this photo. They are also in denial as they are promoting the Gittany family and the RL angles. No class here!. MOO

 

[fruity]

I must admit I had a bit of a chuckle with this morning's news that Schapelle has said that she will not do an interview "at this time". Oh well, I might just be jealous that Channel 7 employees got a work trip in Bali

 

[they'll get you]

I must admit I had a bit of a chuckle with this morning's news that Schapelle has said that she will not do an interview "at this time". Oh well, I might just be jealous that Channel 7 employees got a work trip in Bali

The crew and Mike Willesse are there at the same resort and has been there since her release. I'm assuming the interview have already been done and the resort was paid for. :twocents:

 

[FigTree]

Schapelle Corby and Rachelle Louise have very different stories to tell

Louise, on the other hand, is rubbing salt in the wounds of Harnum's family and friends with her ostentatious displays outside court, and her insulting suggestion, during part one of the Seven network interview, that Harnum was somehow to blame for Gittany's violence.
Shown the shocking CCTV footage of Gittany dragging Harnum back into their apartment, his hand clamped over her mouth, Louise waved it away.
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On Thursday The Daily Telegraph ran a full-length photograph of Louise on page three. Readers were apparently supposed to believe she had been photographed unawares as she was going about her business.
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The same media outlets which mawkishly lamented Harnum's violent death are now glamourising the woman who has somehow managed to pole-vault herself into the centre of the frame. I will happily watch Corby tell her reportedly $2 million story, but I'll be switching off Louise.


How Gittany the bully has been crushed by losing his power
Simon Gittany doesn’t get to call the shots anymore, and it appears the former gym junkie doesn’t like it.
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The support of Gittany’s family never wavered, and the court heard this week he has never had to toil for their affections.
He lived often at the Merrylands home as an adult without paying any rent and told the psychologist who interviewed him in jail that his mother “did everything for him”.
“It was like living in a hotel,” the report quotes him as saying.
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“What is clear, however, is that friends and family either have never experienced or have determined to overlook the way he has treated people who have crossed him,” Justice McCallum said of thr 44 character references tendered to the court, many which denounced her verdict as wrong.


It looks as if Shapelle Corby will not be doing her interview.
and it seems like their plans for their double showing of their dirty chequebook interviews have backfired somewhat.
If they are now going to pull out all stops and advertise RL's story to try and make up for Shapelle being unable to her interview - not only do I want to see RL realize her boyfriend is a killer - but I'd like to see she is leaving him too, then.
The Producers may have to pay her to do that though.
:drumroll:
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[Trooper]

For Gittany to get parole, in 18 years time.. assuming he actually gets a hearing , it is not unusual for parole hearings to take quite some time after one is able to go up to the panel for it, Rachel and the family will be at least 18 yrs older, too.. Mc Callum has underlined and significantly stated the reasons for his non parole period, viz an inability to take responsibility and be rehabilitated and family defiance of the verdict, so it seems reasonable that he would only get parole after 18 years IF he assumes responsibility, for Lisa's death, refutes his lies, demonstrates extraordinary rehabilitation, and the whole family does a 180 degree turn and states he did it, but he's sorry.

His appeal will have difficulty succeeding without entirely new evidence, pertaining to Lisa's manner of death... a total contradiction of Rathmells eye witness account, or a manifestly obvious mistake by Mc Callum... there are no grounds for a plea of excessive sentencing, although it will be tried on.. don't see much success on that one, either..26 years is not excessive. I like it.

 

[Trooper]

What channel 7 does, says, shows, portrays, opines, blithers and babbles, or re enacts is immaterial.

 

[Trooper]

Although... in contradiction, Tanya Herman got out on parole yesterday... Mariah KORPS killer... you just never can tell... 12 year sentence for copping a plea before Maria actually expired on life support ,, served 9 years... is on 3 yrs parole. ( Victorian sentencing )

 

[Trooper]

but in counter - contradiction... Herman admitted guilt , admitted to the planning of the murder, agreed to drop Joe Korp in the pit at his trial ( Joe conveniently hung himself before this happened) threw herself on the mercy of the court by recognizing her culpability, and got in before poor Maria actually became a murder victim. Gittany has done none of this. Herman, in other words was properly advised by her legal rep, just like Gittany was, but Herman took notice of the advice... Gittany, as usual , was deaf to anything resembling advice for which he and others paid 1/4 million dollars and upwards for.... the irony!

 

[they'll get you]

What channel 7 does, says, shows, portrays, opines, blithers and babbles, or re enacts is immaterial.

I agree Trooper it's all too late but this 'little sweet lass with the big boots' needs to have her mind opened to reality. I hope this is done. I'll admit I'll find it more entertaining than watching Corby but possibly I need to get a life.

 

[Trooper]

I agree Trooper it's all too late but this 'little sweet lass with the big boots' needs to have her mind opened to reality. I hope this is done. I'll admit I'll find it more entertaining than watching Corby but possibly I need to get a life.

nothing and no one can open that mind to reality...Only life, as it will be for the next 20 years as she never , ever, gets past being the girlfriend of a girlfriend killer and carries that day by day , plodding along, getting older , fading, laughed at, generally , and forever tarred with a brush so grimy that nothing, nothing, nothing will ever scrub clean.