GUILTY Australia - Lynette Dawson, 34, Sydney, Jan 1982 *Arrest* #4

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I am now wondering back to what Paul Dawson said immediately after the verdict was handed down :

"I told that woman!"

You told that woman what, Paul?

Did you tell that woman - Pauline David - pretrial, that Chris looked like going down for this and he'd be better off plea bargaining?

I wonder...
I have also wondered about this comment …. I wondered if he may have thought that C Dawson should have been put on the stand?

I have also wondered about the media stating that as the verdict went on that Dawson became “redder and redder” …. Was that seething anger…. Or guilt…. Or perhaps a mix of the two???

IMO
 
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I read / listened to an article this morning ( that I now can't find :rolleyes: ) that had Chris Reason ( chanel 7 ) talking at the end in a video & he mentioned that the second trial may not go a head now?

Anyone else see it or can find it?
Been looking but no cigar, so far.
 
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I read / listened to an article this morning ( that I now can't find :rolleyes: ) that had Chris Reason ( chanel 7 ) talking at the end in a video & he mentioned that the second trial may not go a head now?

Anyone else see it or can find it?
Do you mean this article from The Australian???

Paraphrased

Dawson‘s Lawyer, Mr Walsh will make submissions at the sentencing proceedings, beginning with a sentence hearing on November 11.

Justice Harrison will then decide Dawson’s sentence at a later date.


Mr Walsh has flagged he will argue in court that Dawson is suffering dementia and other physical ailments which would make his incarceration more onerous.

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Walsh added that Dawson was conscious of the fact that unless he can have his conviction quashed, he will die in jail.

“He realises the predicament that he’s in and he faces life in prison,” Mr Walsh said.


 
  • #685
Also this from Mr Walsh ….

Mr Walsh has flagged that Dawson will appeal his conviction following his sentencing, saying that Justice Harrison made key findings in his client’s favour.

They included saying that it was “unlikely” that Dawson had told JC that he planned to hire a hitman, as well as saying that he could not find beyond a reasonable doubt that Dawson had been violent towards his wife in the past.

The circumstances in which his honour was satisfied beyond a reasonable doubt that he killed his wife, there was a complete absence of such evidence,” Mr Walsh said.


“There was no evidence of any intention to kill.”

 
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Do you mean this article from The Australian???

Paraphrased

Dawson‘s Lawyer, Mr Walsh will make submissions at the sentencing proceedings, beginning with a sentence hearing on November 11.

Justice Harrison will then decide Dawson’s sentence at a later date.


Mr Walsh has flagged he will argue in court that Dawson is suffering dementia and other physical ailments which would make his incarceration more onerous.

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Walsh added that Dawson was conscious of the fact that unless he can have his conviction quashed, he will die in jail.

“He realises the predicament that he’s in and he faces life in prison,” Mr Walsh said.


Nope. Was mentioned about the Carnal knowledge trial & that it may not now go ahead due to his murder conviction ( & I thought that was wrong as what about the other victims? )

I'll keep looking......
 
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The Daily Telegraph has reported that Dawson’s defence team have already flagged an appeal and Mr Walsh said he would analyse the 268-page judgment before drafting the grounds of appeal.

“I could not express a proper view at this stage as to my level of confidence,” he said.

However the same article states that Walsh says Dawson will die in jail…

Direct quote -
“So he faces either life imprisonment or possibly a lesser sentence which nevertheless would mean that he will die in jail.”

 
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Nope. Was mentioned about the Carnal knowledge trial & that it may not now go ahead due to his murder conviction ( & I thought that was wrong as what about the other victims? )

I'll keep looking......
Sorry, misunderstood the “second trial” as being an “appeal” …..
 
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Sorry, I should have been clearer
All good, :) The Courier Mail 2 days ago said it was still going ahead in May 2023…
However I guess it may depend on an appeal?? If an appeal is lodged, the Carnal Knowledge Trial may be delayed further???

So far, that is all I have been able to find… but will keep looking …
 
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I read / listened to an article this morning ( that I now can't find :rolleyes: ) that had Chris Reason ( chanel 7 ) talking at the end in a video & he mentioned that the second trial may not go a head now?

Anyone else see it or can find it?

I can't find it either.

But I noticed in a July 2022 article yesterday that there are a number of former students who have filed lawsuits regarding the teachers' behaviour that was going on in the three named schools.

It is not known if Chris Dawson (or who) is named in those lawsuits, but if I was JC and didn't want to face another criminal trial I would go for the lawsuit - knowing that Dawson is locked away for the rest of his life.


"At the same time, Maurice Blackburn lawyers are pursing compensation for past students of the schools, although there is no suggestion Chris Dawson is the subject of that legal claim."
 
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Nope. Was mentioned about the Carnal knowledge trial & that it may not now go ahead due to his murder conviction ( & I thought that was wrong as what about the other victims? )

I'll keep looking......
I think I heard it too…..it was on 7 news last night I think. I only heard it briefly mentioned at the end of the report
 
  • #693
Found it :)

7NEWS Sydney

@7NewsSydney
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Convicted killer Chris Dawson is expected to be back in court tomorrow to learn when he'll be sentenced for his wife's murder. Tonight he'll spend his first night inside Silverwater jail - one of the prison's newest and most high profile inmates. http://7NEWS.com.au #7NEWS
 
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BBC

From the article:

And trials before a lone judge are less likely to end in a conviction - judges, unlike juries, must explain their reasoning and tend to have a stricter definition of what constitutes reasonable doubt.

"For juries, the fact that you don't have to give reasons means that you go on your gut a bit more," Prof Gans says. "I always thought that a jury was likely to convict in this case but the judge was pretty unlikely to convict."

When the judge did convict Dawson, Prof Gans says he was surprised.

But, he adds, these kinds of verdicts are easier to appeal.

"You've got these reasons that you can attack, and Dawson has that benefit now."

Lawyers for Dawson have already indicated he is likely to appeal.

Verdict is an 'incredible relief'​

In the "best case scenarios", true crime series have solved cold cases, exonerated wrongly imprisoned people and exposed misconduct by investigators and prosecutors, Prof Gans says.

And that is exactly what Mr Thomas says he set out to do.

"This idea that the legal [and] criminal justice system can just manage this and not miss anything is a furphy - it's a lie," he told The Australian.

"There is always so much more material, so many more witnesses you could talk to, more evidence that can be gleaned. My overriding aim with these podcasts is to solve crimes."

Seeing that achieved on Tuesday was an "incredible relief", he says.

"When the hammer finally fell on Chris Dawson and he was declared guilty by the judge, it was a powerful moment," he told Seven.

"He's been scheming and manipulating and lying for at least 40 years. I hope that he is appropriately punished for it."
 
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Some light reading.... The vedict transcript.
Wow thanks Bat!
I'm going to set aside some time to read all of it.
 
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Wow thanks Bat!
I'm going to set aside some time to read all of it.
Me too Tootsie!
If you're lazy like me...you can have it read out for you as well. Hehe
 
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