Australia Australia - Marion Barter, 51, missing after trip to UK, June 1997 #11

[gymtonic]

Bit of a long ramble here goes. Yes there seems to be an abundance of Australian business names and numbers ABN's for both names MJR and RGW in various forms from sole trader to Pty. Ltd. to family Trusts with various addresses. I don't know if any are set up by RB, Forensic accountant best bet there.
The early RGW travel would suggest overseas tax havens. Norfolk island, (Vanuatu is another tax free haven popular in the 80's 90's accountants can do that without leaving Australia)

Customs brokers import/export licences, duty and taxation of imports. Transportation shipping containers by seafreight (remember he imported a container load of books) and that elusive JAL director.
Wonder if he used aliases for trademark registrations. Land developments or cattle industries register, beef import/export. Vet bills. Sales.
RSL memberships, bank transfer credits into bank accounts taxation, list goes on, RB on disability pension and D deH on carers pension. The big payout while he was in Switzerland in 60's plus Belgian pension and Wife's Parents Inheritance! That goes through the probate office/ solicitors.
What happened with all the money. Monte Carlo Gambling/ RSL pokies / horse racing ? or property investment?
The NZ butcher a possible connection or was that ruled out ? and daughter at Casino Beef being clues?
Does anyone know how to search free online docs for NZ, Norfolk island and Vanuatu, New Caledonia, Bali.

Now that RB has been exposed I hope it has jolted the memory of Marion's siblings, work colleagues, art centre friends, neighbours and old friends.

While I'm writing this my main concern is still. Where is Marion! And I'm feeling frustrated. All the twists would be horrible for Marions family.



ICIJ Offshore Leaks Database

https://connectonline.asic.gov.au

IP Australia |

ABN Lookup

This is the company info site for NC
Rechercher le SIRET d'une entreprise pour obtenir le Kbis
and NC government economic affairs Direction des Affaires Economiques
I'll give searching a go...any requests?

Hmmm that's tres interessant...I think I've found a DD company in Nouvelle Caledonie! which appears to be this https://www.krydamorocompany.com

 

[mishy66]

I didn't realise there was a private group of sleuths working behind the scenes here.

I feel pretty silly spending / wasting my time researching to post up on here to help others work through the case and probably already been done in the private group?

I thought any information found was shared openly within the group to help with the end goal, of finding Marion.

Just been back searching for information on something I was working on and found a bunch of posts about files in a private group.

Kind of disappointing to be honest.

 

[KiwiNZ]

Interesting that DdeH is "Anne" in this notice. I don’t recall ever hearing her called that?

Adverts were taking over the telephone, lots of mistakes, Dianne could be heard as Anne etc... that was my take anyways lol

 

[BonnieB]

I didn't realise there was a private group of sleuths working behind the scenes here.

I feel pretty silly spending / wasting my time researching to post up on here to help others work through the case and probably already been done in the private group?

I thought any information found was shared openly within the group to help with the end goal, of finding Marion.

Just been back searching for information on something I was working on and found a bunch of posts about files in a private group.

Kind of disappointing to be honest.

Well that's a bit rude, where are these private groups?

 

[Eyespywithmylittleeye]

Offloading ??/
There have been a bunch of changes over the past few weeks to those companies found by @Eyespywithmylittleeye I think it was at the time.....

Vestigingseenheidsgegevens | KBO Public Search

so much action has been going on!

Damn it I can see this attachment!!

 

[BonnieB]

I didn't realise there was a private group of sleuths working behind the scenes here.

I feel pretty silly spending / wasting my time researching to post up on here to help others work through the case and probably already been done in the private group?

I thought any information found was shared openly within the group to help with the end goal, of finding Marion.

Just been back searching for information on something I was working on and found a bunch of posts about files in a private group.

Kind of disappointing to be honest.

Well that's a bit rude, where are these private groups?

This is the company info site for NC
Rechercher le SIRET d'une entreprise pour obtenir le Kbis
and NC government economic affairs Direction des Affaires Economiques
I'll give searching a go...any requests?

Hmmm that's tres interessant...I think I've found a DD company in Nouvelle Caledonie! which appears to be this https://www.krydamorocompany.com

And their fb page has quite a few followers from Rouen, France

 

[Liselle]

I didn't realise there was a private group of sleuths working behind the scenes here.

I feel pretty silly spending / wasting my time researching to post up on here to help others work through the case and probably already been done in the private group?

I thought any information found was shared openly within the group to help with the end goal, of finding Marion.

Just been back searching for information on something I was working on and found a bunch of posts about files in a private group.

Kind of disappointing to be honest.

@mishy66 Do you mean the sleuths here, "spread some crumbs" after their much limited research and this private group say "we didn't know that!" and are able to access government files at a higher/restricted level?

 

[Eyespywithmylittleeye]

Offloading ??/
There have been a bunch of changes over the past few weeks to those companies found by @Eyespywithmylittleeye I think it was at the time.....

Vestigingseenheidsgegevens | KBO Public Search

so much action has been going on!

Damn it I can see this attachment!!

I didn't realise there was a private group of sleuths working behind the scenes here.

I feel pretty silly spending / wasting my time researching to post up on here to help others work through the case and probably already been done in the private group?

I thought any information found was shared openly within the group to help with the end goal, of finding Marion.

Just been back searching for information on something I was working on and found a bunch of posts about files in a private group.

Kind of disappointing to be honest.

Ignore whatever you have read Mishy your information and sleuthing has been amazing and end goal IMO is to pool our heads together…. this is a forum and it’s what it’s meant for people to openly discuss and share their sleuthing. So not sure what you’ve read but whatever it was.. ignore..! Stay on your path.. because personally I think every mind and set of eyes that can find and share ideas the more chance of finding truth… what happened to Marion?? That is the end goal.

 

[mishy66]

Damn it I can see this attachment!!

Ignore whatever you have read Mishy your information and sleuthing has been amazing and end goal IMO is to pool our heads together…. this is a forum and it’s what it’s meant for people to openly discuss and share their sleuthing. So not sure what you’ve read but whatever it was.. ignore..! Stay on your path.. because personally I think every mind and set of eyes that can find and share ideas the more chance of finding truth… what happened to Marion?? That is the end goal.

Thanks @Eyespywithmylittleeye

I think most have that goal to find out what did happen to Marion and to the other Marions out there.
I will keep sharing what I find.

 

[mishy66]

@mishy66 Do you mean the sleuths here, "spread some crumbs" after their much limited research and this private group say "we didn't know that!" and are able to access government files at a higher/restricted level?

No I didnt mean that. But I am not going to continue with it.
As I said I was searching for something in threads and found references to sleuths creating files in private messages.

Anyways moving on....Where is Marion!

 

[Liselle]

Adverts were taking over the telephone, lots of mistakes, Dianne could be heard as Anne etc... that was my take anyways lol

@KiwiNZ I recall in that era, one had to appear in person at a newsagency (to stop scurrilous notices), fill in the appropriate public notice form, your identity recorded, and payment submitted. "Dianne to Anne" is interesting because the spelling of her name is Diane. I'm just wondering if DdeH used Anne like RB used Rick, Ricky, etc.

 

[KiwiNZ]

@KiwiNZ I recall in that era, one had to appear in person at a newsagency (to stop scurrilous notices), fill in the appropriate public notice form, your identity recorded, and payment submitted. "Dianne to Anne" is interesting because the spelling of her name is Diane. I'm just wondering if DdeH used Anne like RB used Rick, Ricky, etc. [/QUOTE]

yes that is a possibility as well .. that she had a nickname but I don't personally read anything criminal into it

 

[mishy66]

Damn it I can see this attachment!!

Exact adres als resultaat van de opzoeking | KBO Public Search

 

[Estelle]

Lordy, Lordy, Lordy - check out the web of subsidiary companies registered under Renov Pubs 4 weeks ago.
RENOV PUBS - 0858473358 - Belgium - B2BHint
View attachment 338277View attachment 338277

Yes I discovered these weeks ago when we found out about Renov Pubs and I reported it to TLV. But we didn't know what to make of them. Any ideas?

 

[Itsapuzzle]

There's a Robert Gordon Walker mentioned twice in this document from 1954. Not sure when they came to Australia though, but it would explain the travel, etc, progression through the ranks to Company Director.
PP no. 11 of 1954

 

[Estelle]

I didn't realise there was a private group of sleuths working behind the scenes here.

I feel pretty silly spending / wasting my time researching to post up on here to help others work through the case and probably already been done in the private group?

I thought any information found was shared openly within the group to help with the end goal, of finding Marion.

Just been back searching for information on something I was working on and found a bunch of posts about files in a private group.

Kind of disappointing to be honest.

Just been back searching for information on something I was working on and found a bunch of posts about files in a private group.

Do you have a link for that please?

 

[mishy66]

There's a Robert Gordon Walker mentioned twice in this document from 1954. Not sure when they came to Australia though, but it would explain the travel, etc, progression through the ranks to Company Director.
PP no. 11 of 1954

Great find @Itsapuzzle
Finding all sorts of links to butchers it seems!

 

[mishy66]

Just been back searching for information on something I was working on and found a bunch of posts about files in a private group.

Do you have a link for that please?

I do but I am not about to rat any people out. I am sure if you use the search tool you will find them.

 

[Eyespywithmylittleeye]

Exact adres als resultaat van de opzoeking | KBO Public Search

But that’s not new that’s why I’m confused. They are at the address but aren’t part of renov to my understanding.

Edit: the enterprise number are completely seperate and although building address is 46 they are individual boxes so as I suspected ages ago and also from real estate searches 46 has flats. Mr Aka has just put 46 but not the unit number. At least that’s how I’m understanding it.

ecozy appeared completely legit.. the other woman not so much.

edit 2 - this was how I found the tax man… this is a property address search.. if you put all at that prop you will find cordemans - this link is only showing current

 

[mishy66]

Yes I discovered these weeks ago when we found out about Renov Pubs and I reported it to TLV. But we didn't know what to make of them. Any ideas?

Renov was found by @Carovb5 a while back with all the old subsidiaries but the new subsidiaries have only been added a couple of weeks ago