Australia - Mass shooting at Bondi Beach Hanukkah Celebration - 14 Dec 2025

  • #641
There is a real mess in Australia right now. I'd like to hear from Aussie folks, is there a general feeling that things are spiraling or under control. I am always hesitant about sweeping legislation being passed right after terrible events.
I think Aussies are generally open and inclusive, so long as it doesn’t hurt others. We recognise that unless we are Aboriginal, we are all migrants here. But I don’t think we want to tolerate hate at all. I think this has made many of us more concerned about careful immigration, and the consequences of people migrating but brining hates and wars with them. We expect that people can manage to seperate the harms that are done by religious and political leaders (and agree that they are horrific) from their neighbours and colleagues who may be from the same religion, culture or nation.

I think acting quickly after terrible events is ok. I think most Aussies support stricter gun laws and hate speech to help prevent this type of mass violence and terror.
 
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The controversial Al Madina Dawah centre associated with Islamic preacher Wissam Haddad will close after the local council found the centre had never been allowed to operate as a prayer hall.

The Bankstown centre had only been approved to operate as a medical centre, and had been in the spotlight after associations with surviving Bondi shooter Naveed Akram emerged last week.

Premier Chris Minns praised the move by Canterbury-Bankstown council, calling it an “important step” to supporting public safety.

This is good, but it was known all along what was happening there, again until innocent lives are slaughtered , it's business as usual.....................


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In the link below you can read full transcripts of the "sermons" or "speeches"



Yeah it was a "medical centre" :rolleyes::mad:

And to boot they were registered as a charity organisation from 2022 til Aug 2025 :mad:

An organisation run by Sydney jihadist spiritual leader Wisam Haddad has been stripped of its charity status after a Four Corners investigation revealed it was radicalising young Australians while receiving tax breaks from the government.

Mr Haddad's Dawah Van Incorporated was registered as a charity to preach on Sydney's streets from 2022, despite his public infamy as a prominent supporter of the Islamic State (IS) terrorist group.


Now, colour me confused, how was this place ever called a medical centre?? What am I missing??

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In a statement, the council said a review of records bating back to 1970 revealed it had never had approval to operate as a prayer hall and was only recently being approved to operate as a medical centre.

A council spokesman said the change of use from a medical centre to a prayer hall or place of worship required development consent, which had not been sought and was therefore unauthorised.

“Our recent surveillance indicates there is a strong suspicion the premises is being used contrary to its intended use,” the spokesman said.

Yay don't say :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Oh dear I'm going down so many rabbit holes .........


Sorry if this is all over the place, by brain is fried :oops:


 

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Prosecution of Naveed Akram​

Date

22/12/2025 - 12:00pm


On 17 December 2025, the NSW Joint Counter Terrorism Team (JCTT) (comprising the New South Wales Police Force, the Australian Federal Police, the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation and the NSW Crime Commission) formally referred the prosecution of charges against Naveed Akram (the defendant) to the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (Cth) (CDPP).

The prosecution against the defendant relates to his alleged role in the Bondi Beach shootings on Sunday, 14 December 2025 (the JCTT investigation into those matters is called Operation Arques).

The CDPP recognises the high level of public interest in this matter and will provide regular prosecution updates.

Role of the CDPP​

The CDPP is an independent prosecution service established by Commonwealth Parliament to prosecute alleged offences against Commonwealth law.

Further information about the CDPP and the prosecution process can be accessed on our website.
 
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This is good, but it was known all along what was happening there, again until innocent lives are slaughtered , it's business as usual.....................


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In the link below you can read full transcripts of the "sermons" or "speeches"



Yeah it was a "medical centre" :rolleyes::mad:

And to boot they were registered as a charity organisation from 2022 til Aug 2025 :mad:

An organisation run by Sydney jihadist spiritual leader Wisam Haddad has been stripped of its charity status after a Four Corners investigation revealed it was radicalising young Australians while receiving tax breaks from the government.

Mr Haddad's Dawah Van Incorporated was registered as a charity to preach on Sydney's streets from 2022, despite his public infamy as a prominent supporter of the Islamic State (IS) terrorist group.


Now, colour me confused, how was this place ever called a medical centre?? What am I missing??

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In a statement, the council said a review of records bating back to 1970 revealed it had never had approval to operate as a prayer hall and was only recently being approved to operate as a medical centre.

A council spokesman said the change of use from a medical centre to a prayer hall or place of worship required development consent, which had not been sought and was therefore unauthorised.

“Our recent surveillance indicates there is a strong suspicion the premises is being used contrary to its intended use,” the spokesman said.

Yay don't say :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Oh dear I'm going down so many rabbit holes .........


Sorry if this is all over the place, by brain is fried :oops:


I am happy that this place has been shut down. However it should have been shut down long before this. It shouldn't need a Bondi incident to force closure. Hope the government shut down a lot more of these places.
It nearly brings us full circle back to assimilation. Everyone has a right to their own beliefs and live in peace. But if you don't intend to live and let live, this country is not for you.
 
  • #645
I am happy that this place has been shut down. However it should have been shut down long before this. It shouldn't need a Bondi incident to force closure. Hope the government shut down a lot more of these places.
It nearly brings us full circle back to assimilation. Everyone has a right to their own beliefs and live in peace. But if you don't intend to live and let live, this country is not for you.
Exactly, and I imagine there are many other others operating & spewing the same hatred all over Australia.

I just don't understand why the AFP didn't have this place shut down years ago ( maybe they don't have the power---I have no idea? )
 
  • #646

Gun and protest laws tighten after Bondi Beach terrorist attack. Here's what you need to know​


The NSW government has passed its controversial package of law changes in reaction to the Bondi terror attack.

The laws passed the upper house 18 votes to eight after a marathon debate which stretched into the early hours of Christmas Eve.

The legislation now goes back to the lower house to be rubberstamped.

The Minns government recalled parliament to pass the laws in the wake of the December 14 shooting at Bondi Beach where 15 people were killed when two men targeted a Jewish gathering.

The bill packaged gun reforms with a ban on protests for up to three months.

It split the Coalition, with the Liberals backing the bill and the Nationals opposing it. Goulburn-based Liberal MP Wendy Tuckerman broke ranks to vote with the Nationals.

A number of Liberal Party MPs criticised the government for rushing the laws through with limited consultation, before ultimately supporting the omnibus bill.

The Greens and a number of crossbench MPs were also in opposition.
 
  • #647

Gun limits opposed in regional NSW​

Gun laws will be tightened in a number of ways.

One of the main adjustments is that recreational licence holders will be able to own a maximum of four guns, and farmers could have up to 10.

They will also have to have their licence reviewed every two years, rather than every five, and will lose the ability to appeal a licence removal in the New South Wales Civil and Administrative Tribunal (NCAT).

Non-citizens will also be unable to get a gun licence, with exemptions for New Zealanders working in farming or security.
 
  • #648

Gun limits opposed in regional NSW​

Gun laws will be tightened in a number of ways.

One of the main adjustments is that recreational licence holders will be able to own a maximum of four guns, and farmers could have up to 10.

They will also have to have their licence reviewed every two years, rather than every five, and will lose the ability to appeal a licence removal in the New South Wales Civil and Administrative Tribunal (NCAT).

Non-citizens will also be unable to get a gun licence, with exemptions for New Zealanders working in farming or security.

As a New Yorker who knows nothing about guns and nothing about farming, this sounds like a step in the right direction—-but 10 guns? Farmers need 10 guns? I’m truly ignorant about this—-is it to kill predatory animals or something?

Four guns recreationally also strikes me as more guns than anyone needs.

More frequent gun license review sounds good, at least.

JMO
 
  • #649
I'm very happy with the new laws re guns, not happy at all on the ban on protests.
 
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  • #651
As a New Yorker who knows nothing about guns and nothing about farming, this sounds like a step in the right direction—-but 10 guns? Farmers need 10 guns? I’m truly ignorant about this—-is it to kill predatory animals or something?

Four guns recreationally also strikes me as more guns than anyone needs.

More frequent gun license review sounds good, at least.

JMO
I admit I know very little about guns & gun ownership.

But I imagine there would be a need for some to own more than 10 guns, like huge outback stations with many employees, as you said for vermin & protection maybe?

I also think alot of gun owners have guns that have been handed down to them, thru many generations, I think these would be counted in the new numbers.

I do support it thou.

None of these recent decisions are easy, but things do need to change.

I also support the ban on protest ( which at this time is only for 3 months, surly people can deal with that? ) give us time to " cool " everyone's heads.

I'm just happy to see something being done at the end of the day , with the goal to keep all Australian's safer.

All IMHO
 
  • #652
Why do people lose the right to appeal a removal of their firearm license? That isn't based in safety at all.
 
  • #653
Why do people lose the right to appeal a removal of their firearm license? That isn't based in safety at all.

Do you know how many unsuitable people have had their firearms license restored? I don't, but I bet it has been an issue - for this law to have been enacted.
Seeing that judges have let dangerous people out of prison - as previously linked in this thread - it wouldn't surprise me to learn that dangerous people have had firearms licenses restored in the past.


The firearms registry, run by the NSW Police Force, can revoke a licence if the holder is found to no longer be a "fit and proper person" — an ongoing test which involves checks on character, honesty, lawfulness, mental health, and history of domestic violence or other concerning police interactions.

Also .... when people had their firearms licences renewed — which will now be every two years following the bill's passage — it included additional checks to ensure that people's mental health is not an adverse factor or one that would negatively impact public safety.

 
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Public assemblies banned for 14 days across Sydney as police enforce new powers under protest laws​


Over the next fortnight, any gathering in the South West Metropolitan, North West Metropolitan and Central Metropolitan policing areas will be considered "unauthorised and participants will not have the protection of the Summary Offences Act".

Any event approved prior to the declaration will now be "taken to be revoked".

The declaration can be extended fortnightly for up to three months.
 
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Hero cop Jack Hibbert, 22, pictured for first time at home since Bondi Beach terror attack​

There has been a major update on the 22-year-old probationary constable who was blinded in one eye as he ran toward gunfire in the Bondi terror attack.

The young officer – who was just four months into the job – is seen all smiles at home as he was visited by Sydney Roosters captain James Tedesco, NSW Police Association Acting President Ian Allwood and businessman Mark Bouris who was representing the NRL.

Constable Hibbert appeared relaxed in a white T-shirt and black shorts as he was gifted a Redcliffe Dolphins jersey signed by the Queensland-based rugby league team.

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Australia fast-tracks visas for family of Bondi hero Ahmed Al-Ahmed​

Ahmed Al-Ahmed is set to receive extra support as he continues to recover in hospital from being shot while saving lives during the Bondi terror attack.

The overseas family of Ahmed Al-Ahmed have been granted visas to fly to Australia to help the Bondi Beach terror attack hero continue his recovery.

While he has been surrounded at his bedside by loved ones, his family dotted across different countries have been wanting to desperately see him in person since the attack.

The federal government has stepped in and granted visas to his brothers and sisters, according to lawyer Sam Issa, Mr Al-Ahmed’s representative.

His siblings are set to be given temporary visas, and applications were fast-tracked by the Department of Home Affairs, The Daily Telegraph reported.

Mr Al-Ahmed’s brothers and sisters will fly to Sydney from Germany, Russia and the United Arab Emirates. Another sister based in Syria is trying to get a visitor’s visa.

Mr Al-Ahmed had wanted to sell his tobacco shop in Sydney’s Sutherland prior to the terror attack. It was sold while he was recovering in hospital.

 
  • #658
During the iconic Sydney to Hobart yacht race (which started yesterday), as they passed Bondi Beach, 14 yachts scattered rose petals into the ocean. Honouring the 14 deceased victims of the Bondi terror attack.


Olympic champion swimmer Ian Thorpe led a tribute to the victims of the Bondi massacre during the Sydney Hobart Yacht Race, where competitors scattered red, white and pink flower petals into the sea as they passed the iconic beach and site of the tragedy.

Thorpe was aboard race leader LawConnect and joined the supermaxi’s owner, technology entrepreneur Christian Beck, in casting a boxful petals into the water. Fourteen other yachts did the same, one for each victim who died in the December 14 shooting.

 
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‘Not closing’: Islamic centre’s defiant message after council ordered it shut following Bondi massacre​



An Islamic centre linked to alleged Bondi gunman Naveed Akram, has insisted it will re-open despite a shutdown order from council.
The Al Madina Dawah Centre in Bankstown has faced scrutiny after it emerged that the facility, where sermons have described Jews as “vile,” “mischievous” and “treacherous” people, was attended by Akram.



But the centre was defiant on Sunday, maintaining it had only “paused” operations while it dealt with the council’s order.

“Although the premises meet all the requirements and zoning of a community centre, we are required to lodge a change of use application with Bankstown Council,” it said in a statement to The Daily Telegraph.

“While this process is under way, we will be temporarily pausing operations until the matter is fully rectified.

“We emphasise that the centre is not closing, this pause is purely to ensure full compliance with council requirements and to obtain the necessary approvals.”

The centre previously said it was operating under “new and independent management” and Haddad’s involvement was limited to “occasional invitations as a guest speaker, including delivering lectures and, at times, Friday sermons”.



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  • #660

‘Not closing’: Islamic centre’s defiant message after council ordered it shut following Bondi massacre​



An Islamic centre linked to alleged Bondi gunman Naveed Akram, has insisted it will re-open despite a shutdown order from council.
The Al Madina Dawah Centre in Bankstown has faced scrutiny after it emerged that the facility, where sermons have described Jews as “vile,” “mischievous” and “treacherous” people, was attended by Akram.



But the centre was defiant on Sunday, maintaining it had only “paused” operations while it dealt with the council’s order.

“Although the premises meet all the requirements and zoning of a community centre, we are required to lodge a change of use application with Bankstown Council,” it said in a statement to The Daily Telegraph.

“While this process is under way, we will be temporarily pausing operations until the matter is fully rectified.

“We emphasise that the centre is not closing, this pause is purely to ensure full compliance with council requirements and to obtain the necessary approvals.”

The centre previously said it was operating under “new and independent management” and Haddad’s involvement was limited to “occasional invitations as a guest speaker, including delivering lectures and, at times, Friday sermons”.



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“We emphasise that the centre is not closing, this pause is purely to ensure full compliance with council requirements and to obtain the necessary approvals.”

The centre previously said it was operating under “new and independent management” and Haddad’s involvement was limited to “occasional invitations as a guest speaker, including delivering lectures and, at times, Friday sermons”.



Well, how is that changing anything if the Islamic Extremist is going to continue giving lectures and leading Friday sermons?
How is that limiting his extremist influence? :mad: :mad:
 

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