Deceased/Not Found AUSTRALIA - Ms Lesley Trotter, 78, Homicide, Brisbane, 28 Mar 2023

[kiwi50]

If we knew whose bin she had been put in, at least we would know what time bin was put out, if perp was a fellow resident would you put her in your own bin or someone elses.
Not sure what I’d do if I noticed blood in my bin, probably would not call police.
The police probably have a good understanding by now who did it, but going to be a hard case to prove,unless there was an eye witness, even if they find her body, not sure that will prove much.

 

[SLouTh]

Lesley did have a Laptop … shown here in her second bedroom when the unit was on the market …

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“She finds the digital world we live in rather daunting too and feels that she may be missing out on some social activities (or) opportunities that are organised via social media platforms.”

https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/police-fear-for-safety-of-former-schoolteacher-and-avid-hiker-following-strange-disappearance/news-story/df0d0040463401bd820c8ca4f4fc13a7

 

[mussopossum]

Oh dear. This is just so, so twisted.
Lesley, and her family, deserved so much better than this. What happened??

What I am finding difficult is the lack of information then snippets of information and then the real nothing information.

‘It’s a sad story’: Retired teacher’s body picked up in rubbish bins

Police are now searching rubbish dumps for the remains of Lesley Trotter, 78.

www.theage.com.au

“Ongoing investigations can reveal that on the morning of March 28 this year, the body of a female we believe was Lesley Trotter was located in a general waste wheelie bin situated on Maryvale Street, Toowong, near to where she resides.”
Massingham said the bin was picked up that morning by a rubbish truck, which went to a waste transfer station at Nudgee.

But police then say they will not disclose how they know the body was in the bin. Many news reports are reporting that a body was located in a bin. So how in that case did it then end up being taken away?

"Police have not revealed how they know her body was placed in the bin, but explained that bin was picked up by a rubbish truck, which dumped a load at a waste transfer station at Nudgee in Brisbane’s north"

 

[Marg944]

There have been no reports of Lesley's backpack being found. This report in the early days said it may have been left somewhere. I assume police are searching for it also.

 

[LacieL]

There have been no reports of Lesley's backpack being found. This report in the early days said it may have been left somewhere. I assume police are searching for it also.

I had missed this about her backpack.

If it was still missing I think the police would be plastering that image everywhere. Maybe it’s been found located somewhere uninteresting (packed if she was moving) or however they know her body was in the bin has also lead them to believe her bag was there too.

That leads me to a realization. I have thought that it seems unlikely that much could be determined from her body after going through what it has been through. I think it’s very important to recover her body for her dignity and also for her family, but it stuck me odd how adamant the police have been that they think finding her will provide leads. Now I realize the items with her might be what they are hoping will provide more information.

 

[CharlesDawkins]

Taken from this Twitter report, the Police are setting up a mobile office at Swanbank landfill site...
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aren't drones wonderful. fully serviceable drones that take quite good images are available on ebay for $54. not quite sure that the police would like drones in the sky over the search area as the work their guts out in a stinking environment this week. They might start enjoying target practice! (drones are almost impossible to shoot out of the sky by the way!) For the same price you can get off ebay trail cams. Trail cams have been used in the past to monitor murder sites (half the time you won't even know they are there!) if you are keen you could locate a motion sensored trail cam near the subject unit blocks and just record the goings on! (the police probably have one there already anyway- I bet you won't find it- there is an art form in disguising the presence of these things). Trail cams are nothing more than mobile security cams anyway

 

[CharlesDawkins]

If we knew whose bin she had been put in, at least we would know what time bin was put out, if perp was a fellow resident would you put her in your own bin or someone elses.
Not sure what I’d do if I noticed blood in my bin, probably would not call police.
The police probably have a good understanding by now who did it, but going to be a hard case to prove,unless there was an eye witness, even if they find her body, not sure that will prove much.

In 2023 we are in a world of advanced forensic dna technology. https://www.couriermail.com.au/news...y/news-story/d1c405953dbfb75792866d035ec57a5d

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Not sure what I’d do if I noticed blood in my bin, probably would not call police.

I wouldn't call the police either.

When I would call the police is when I saw or heard something in the news and thought that maybe it might be connected.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

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[kiwi50]

I wouldn't call the police either.

When I would call the police is when I saw or heard something in the news and thought that maybe it might be connected.

Yes at that point I might make the connection.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

If someone found blood in their bin, I can't see them just leaving it like that for days and days.

The first thing that came to your mind probably wouldn't be that there had been a human body in it, unless you found more than just blood.
If it was me I would think that someone got rid of some animal meat in my bin.

I think most people would give it a good wash straight away.

 

[SouthAussie]

The police may have door-knocked the close neighbours, when Lesley first disappeared. To see if they knew anything, and ask them to report if they saw something out of the ordinary.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

The police may have door-knocked the close neighbours, when Lesley first disappeared. To see if they knew anything, and ask them to report if they saw something out of the ordinary.

Yes and blood in your bin would be out of the ordinary.

 

[SouthAussie]

This is how the police looked when they searched for Quinton Simon in the US (this photo is NOT the search for Lesley).

Drone video of the landfill where FBI, CCPD search for remains of Quinton Simon​

I would expect to see our police suited up with the same kind of protection, once they are actually searching.
At this point, our police may be in the final stages of surveying and planning the search for Lesley. imo

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Yes I noticed at least one had no sleeves and it seems like their day to day clothing.

 

[CharlesDawkins]

On Easter Monday or Lent Sunday, I was pottering about Toowong Cemetery photographing graves for the Find a Grave site, when I spoke to a lady who was searching for a "Young" grave in Portion 2A, She was with another lady and both of them were searching for this grave.

When I got home I looked up the graves in Portion 2A that held someone called "Young." There are a few. There is a very obvious grave at the start of Row 26 of James Cho-Leung Young and Cecilia Yun-Yun Young, but I do not think that this was the grave they were looking for.

They were searching in the middle of Portion 2A in an area where the graves were destroyed by Clem Jones in 1954 and all that remains is a grassed over stretch covering unmarked graves. I advised them to speak to the Sexton's office and get an exact location of the grave they were looking for.

They told me after much fruitless searching that they had located the rough location of the grave they were looking for.

From my photos I think I may have located the position of the grave they were looking for. It is the unmarked grave of Elizabeth Young, nee Trotter, who was buried on 24 Jan 1967 at Portion 2A-20-26.

Now Elizabeth was the daughter of George Trotter, who was Lesley's great grandfather.

A lot of the trotters were cremated over the years but this grave could be said to be one of the last remaining Trotter graves.

Under the Council's 30 year rule (a grave is available for re-use by family where there has no burial in the last 30 years)- this grave would qualify if the family were to afford Lesley a decent Christian burial (if her body is ever recovered))(or erect a memorial to her over a grave whose "ownership" traditionally falls to living relatives.

So if those ladies are family of Lesley (and are on or access this site), please feel free to proceed as thought fit. The sexton will measure out the co-ordinates between the remaining headstone graves in this row and clearly pinpoint the exact grave location for you.

There is a fee of ca $700 to re-use old graves which is far cheaper than $8000 for a new grave site, but for a memorial commemorating the life and times of someone, you may erect a memorial from the Council's recommended list of stonemasons/ metal plaque engravers, and the cost is much more manageable.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Significant step in search for missing woman at rubbish dump

It’s an unenviable and gruelling task - but a crucial one if police are to learn what happened to Lesley Trotter.

7news.com.au

Police have begun the unenviable and gruelling task of sifting through tonnes of landfill for the body of a Brisbane woman, after Commissioner Katarina Carroll warned the effort might take weeks, if not months.

Engineers have attempted a “mammoth task” to isolate the rubbish collected from a single bin on March 28, which is believed to contain the body of Lesley Trotter, 78, among the thousands of tonnes of landfill.

A team of police has on Tuesday begun the physical search - piece by piece - to find any trace of her remains at a dump in Swanbank in Ipswich.

 

[Plover99]

Today’s Courier Mail article
‘Tough going’: Search for Lesley Trotter body moves to landfill site

https://www.couriermail.com.au/true...e/news-story/93ce2b725ca028c45137048de5d2b088

Police have started the meticulous search for the body of Lesley Trotter through piles of rubbish at a Swanbank dump.
Multiple officers moved into the Ipswich site on Tuesday after a week of planning to narrow down tonnes of landfill where the 78-year-old’s body is suspected to be.
Police have “strong evidence” the Toowong woman’s body was in a wheelie bin near her unit when it was collected by a rubbish truck on March 28.
Multiple officers dressed in hi-vis vests, masks, and long clothing worked through piles of landfill with poles on Tuesday morning.
Police had spread out multiple piles of landfill which were marked out with traffic cones.

 

[Plover99]

This is how the police looked when they searched for Quinton Simon in the US (this photo is NOT the search for Lesley).


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Drone video of the landfill where FBI, CCPD search for remains of Quinton Simon​

I would expect to see our police suited up with the same kind of protection, once they are actually searching.
At this point, our police may be in the final stages of surveying and planning the search for Lesley. imo

I agree. The police definitely don’t look like they’re wearing enough protective gear to be searching.

 

[Plover99]

I agree. The police definitely don’t look like they’re wearing enough protective gear to be searching.

The QLD police I mean.