Australia Australia - Pheobe Bishop, 17, failed to board a scheduled flight from a Queensland Airport. Last seen Airport Drive, Bundaberg, 15 May 2025 #2

[Melbournian]

so do you think police continued to play along and publicly state “The last confirmed sighting of PB with suitcase was at Airport Drive near Bundaberg Regional Airport “ to allow JW to slip up and to see what other fibs he would come up further confirming it was made up.

 

[BreakingNews]

I imagine police are accessing her electronic footprint

Can police get these & if so how long?
Phone carrier: call history
Phone carrier: text
Meta: Facebook, Messenger & Instagram
TikTok
WhatsApp
Email

For the socials & email assuming they can get access, do they get the raw data or can they login?

If family or friends had logins, or guessed them. how would they get around two factor authentication without her phone

Is 20 days around the time police would be getting access to start pulling all this together?

I'm not sure about getting access to WhatsApp. There was a case of a missing person in Byron Bay a few years back and due to encryption, the police, nor WhatsApp could get in. Sorry I can't remember his name for a link.

 

[Melbournian]

I'm not sure about getting access to WhatsApp. There was a case of a missing person in Byron Bay a few years back and due to encryption, the police, nor WhatsApp could get in. Sorry I can't remember his name for a link.

That was the German backpacker Theo Hayez.

 

[MathildaM]

I'm not sure about getting access to WhatsApp. There was a case of a missing person in Byron Bay a few years back and due to encryption, the police, nor WhatsApp could get in. Sorry I can't remember his name for a link.

Yes the young Dutch (I think) man last seen at a pub & then heading to the beach

 

[KeenSleuth17]

I'm not sure about getting access to WhatsApp. There was a case of a missing person in Byron Bay a few years back and due to encryption, the police, nor WhatsApp could get in. Sorry I can't remember his name for a link.

Theo Hayez?

 

[mishy66]

The duffle bag is most likely his, also.

There's a rumour going around on social media that someone from Gin Gin sighted her and saw a black suitcase with wheels. So that's possibly why QPS first said she had a suitcase. MOO

I'm sure after they prosecute that more information from witnesses will come out.

There was always a suitcase. It was reported as a suitcase in the initial media. It was important enough to say that because at the first instance she was reported as a missing child and the fact had to be correct

He was the ONLY one to bring in a duffle bag

As I said a few posts back, all these little things in his interview with that journalist, would be his undoing.
A Duffle Bag
Oversized Track Pants
Makeup Bag
Smashed television
Him victim blaming Pheobe all the way through it
The run to the IGA shop
The dropping her off
The so called "parental care" they both had for her, as he says

ALL HIS UNDOING

Along with the evidence and witnesses

No coming back

NO BODY < NO PAROLE

Tanika will be really thinking about this one

 

[KeenSleuth17]

I think we can eagerly await a QPS press conference in the morning. They’ll all be celebrating tonight no doubt, as they have done some great work on this and they will want to praise their Detectives publicly.

 

[Aussieboy]

Hopefully not the same judge who is responsible for giving her bail!!!

I think it was done on purpose as they wanted to find PB. JW & TB might have slipped up somewhere and given out the location. After 3 weeks, due to natural decomposition and depending on where PB lies to rest, there might not be much left for forensics to work with.

Best to strike while the iron is hot with the prosecutions, as with time witnesses will forget things and evidence gets lost. It's just the way the system works.

 

[Dotta]

I'm not sure we will get any details in the near future.
With sub judice coming soon.

And trial?

Hmmm...

In Samantha M's case
the trial is scheduled for 2026!
And she went missing in 2024.

The truth what happened to Pheobe
will have to wait to be disclosed.

For a long time IMO

JMO

 

[mishy66]

The duffle bag is most likely his, also.

There's a rumour going around on social media that someone from Gin Gin sighted her and saw a black suitcase with wheels. So that's possibly why QPS first said she had a suitcase. MOO

I'm sure after they prosecute that more information from witnesses will come out.

so do you think police continued to play along and publicly state “The last confirmed sighting of PB with suitcase was at Airport Drive near Bundaberg Regional Airport “ to allow JW to slip up and to see what other fibs he would come up further confirming it was made up.

No, the media at the start said she had a suitcase.
It was Dumb and Dumber himself that told the journalist PB had a duffle bag *drag him into the police station yesterday*
The witness didnt report to police until much later with what they saw that morning

 

[BreakingNews]

I wondered the same. Can anyone shed any light on why there’d be two charges each of interfering with a corpse?

Well done QPS. So sad for you dear Pheobe x

Interfering with a corpse is a common charge along with murder in Queensland. It usually refers to moving the body. As police had previously stated, they thought the originally searched area of GN park had been disturbed. Maybe the returned and moved her body elsewhere.

 

[scepticalscotty]

I imagine police are accessing her electronic footprint

Can police get these & if so how long?
Phone carrier: call history
Phone carrier: text
Meta: Facebook, Messenger & Instagram
TikTok
WhatsApp
Email

For the socials & email assuming they can get access, do they get the raw data or can they login?

If family or friends had logins, or guessed them. how would they get around two factor authentication without her phone

Is 20 days around the time police would be getting access to start pulling all this together?

Police can obtain cellular records which include PCI Identifiers for each time the phone was used to complete a digital handshake (Tx/Rx)via the network directly. I.e phone call, text message. They can only grab the Cell identifier when data transfer occurs. The difference is that PCI location can be triangulated if neighbouring cells are detectable by the phone. Cell identification will only identify your presence within the radius of the base station so cannot be triangulated. Police SHOULD be able to access this information very quickly under numerous Emergency clauses under the telecommunications act. I would assume they did this at the beginning of the investigation.

 

[dlr1939]

I think it was done on purpose as they wanted to find PB. JW & TB might have slipped up somewhere and given out the location. After 3 weeks, due to natural decomposition and depending on where PB lies to rest, there might not be much left for forensics to work with.

Best to strike while the iron is hot with the prosecutions, as with time witnesses will forget things and evidence gets lost. It's just the way the system works.

I was referring to her first charges way before PB was reported missing.
Understand why she was bailed the second time for the reasons you mention.
But she should never have been bailed originally. Just my opinion.

 

[mishy66]

I'm not sure we will get any details in the near future.
With sub judice coming soon.

And trial?

Hmmm...

In Samantha M's case
the trial is scheduled for 2026!
And she went missing in 2024.

The truth what happened to Pheobe
will have to wait to be disclosed.

For a long time IMO

JMO

TBH I think they will plead guilty
Far too much evidence against them
One will plead guilty for a lesser sentence and rat on the other and both will be sentenced and jailed.

OMO

 

[Aussieboy]

I'm not sure about getting access to WhatsApp. There was a case of a missing person in Byron Bay a few years back and due to encryption, the police, nor WhatsApp could get in. Sorry I can't remember his name for a link.

They ended up getting into Google via the mum knowing a password, but I'm led to believe that a lot of phone apps geocatch locations from phone towers.

Theo Hayez inquest traces missing backpacker's mobile phone trail up Cape Byron​

 

[BreakingNews]

I'm not sure we will get any details in the near future.
With sub judice coming soon.

And trial?

Hmmm...

In Samantha M's case
the trial is scheduled for 2026!
And she went missing in 2024.

The truth what happened to Pheobe
will have to wait to be disclosed.

For a long time IMO

JMO

Unless they both plead guilty. Then it won't go to trial. Just to sentencing and unless a journalist writes a book about it, we will most likely never know the full details.

 

[BreakingNews]

They ended up getting into Google via the mum knowing a password, but I'm led to believe that a lot of phone apps geocatch locations from phone towers.

Theo Hayez inquest traces missing backpacker's mobile phone trail up Cape Byron​

Yes. Thank you. I'd forgotten his name.

 

[mishy66]

I was referring to her first charges way before PB was reported missing.
Understand why she was bailed the second time for the reasons you mention.
But she should never have been bailed originally. Just my opinion.

Her court cases started back in February and kept going
IMO she was bailed because police were wanting to track them

So much police work behind the scenes.

Makes sense to get the end goal.

 

[BreakingNews]

I'm wondering if they were caught together - against both their bail conditions. TB had the perfect chance last week when she was arrested for the weapons to come clean and drop JW in it and she might have got a lighter sentence. But seems they were both into it equally. Wonder how in zinc they are with the detailed statement to the Daily Mail.

 

[Dotta]

I must hand it to Queensland Police

Arresting JW
Releasing him WITHOUT charges

And then....BOOM!

The pair arrested again at night & charged!

What a twist!
Checkmate

I bet Media were scrambling,
on their toes all the time.

Although, mind you,
JW's parents taking the poor dog away should have been a clue of what was coming.

JMO