GUILTY Australia - Terence Darrell Kelly, charged w/ abduction of 4 y.o., WA, 16 Oct 2021 #2

[Trooper]

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[HilaryHormone]

What a danger to catch him on the road when they could of been hiding in the backyard and front yard and pounced on him as soon as he stepped away from the front door

Exactly. I don’t believe LE would have risked placing potential informants in a car chase situation. Much more effective to watch and wait for him to enter/leave the house. Possible the puzzle pieces all aligned randomly so they acted quickly to trace TK and he just happened to be in transit. There was a bit of a gap in time between them arresting TK and raiding his house, which makes me question what they actually had on him in the first place. IMO they believed the child was dead or they would have been all over that house immediately.

My 2 cents - I don't believe the woman was TK. My first thought was that CS would have clicked that it was him.

TK could have brought her in late at night when the neighbours weren't looking.

It's possible police know who it was, and need people to speak up so that they have more evidence for their case.

I’m with you on that one, CS would have sussed him in seconds. My own 3 year old would certainly have questioned him mercilessly and relentlessly.

 

[Ozgal]

could tk have multiple personality disorder, played out with all his fb profiles?
and female tk mothered and cared for cs?

sorry bgirl88 i posted this before reading throught the thread, youve already said this

Having seen a majority of the SM profile's and the conversations between them all, I'm of the opinion that he may have a personality disorder and gender identity problems. If his desire was to have a secret real life doll/daughter for life and kept his fantasy world well hidden from a majority of people, why would he risk involving someone that could blow his cover IMO

 

[HilaryHormone]

IMO it isn't hard to go buy female clothes that fitted TK. People dress up in drag day in day out, they look realistic. TK followed a person on SM that did just this, is a male and dresses up in female costumes.

CS is only 4yrs old, yes she appears smart, but a child of that age could be led to believe that it was a female, but in fact was a male. Especially given if that child has never seen drag in their life IMO

It’s possible. As this case continues to prove, nothing is beyond the realms of possibility. I doubt TK would have a sophisticated set up to match a drag artist though. JMO.

Edited to add, pre-schoolers tend to enjoy engaging in role play, they ‘animate’ toys etc, so it’s entirely possible she’s recollecting a role play scenario where TK said he was a lady so as far as she’s concerned, in that moment he was a lady.

Not sure I even make sense. What an utter bamboozling situation.

 

[Trooper]

Having seen a majority of the SM profile's and the conversations between them all, I'm of the opinion that he may have a personality disorder and gender identity problems. If his desire was to have a secret real life doll/daughter for life and kept his fantasy world well hidden from a majority of people, why would he risk involving someone that could blow his cover IMO

And why would he risk inviting in any competition. ? Someone who might appeal to C more?? After all that trouble, that would be silly.

Since he was extremely adept in adopting various persona's of variable genders on his facebook stuff, ...

 

[JudgeJudi]

A simple question like "did the lady have a beard?" might be enough to clear up the matter ... for the police.

An experienced interviewer wouldn't ask a child that.

From the podcast with Criminologist and Psychologist, Dr Michelle Noon:

“Often with children, inexperienced interviewers will do things like ask what we call closed or leading questions, and you’ll see that this is a style of questioning that’s used with adults to children anyway. So it sounds like this: ‘Did you play soccer at school today?’ So that’s a closed leading question. Someone who’s experienced would say, ‘What happened at school today?’ So with a question like that, it’s only a little tweak but we get much better evidence and it’s much less easy to refute.”

Interview Link Here

Leading questions can plant an idea into a child’s mind and that’s one reason why open questions get better results.

 

[JLZ]

I think C might be confusing the people she met in the rescue situation with what happened during her captivity.

 

[Deleted member 296843]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10174387/-Bombshell-missing-Australian-girl-claims-woman-looked-WA.html

link snipped to remove victims name. Not sure if this article was posted

Im starting to think is it possible another man was involved someone who shares TK interest in children and dolls, a man who may cross dress its hard to imagine why a woman would want to be involved in the grooming of a missing child, but I could imagine a man who could even be paying TK for the experience, but it is possible the accused used a woman possibly a drug adict who is doing it for drugs or a drug debit to be payed off its still hard to imagine anyone getting involved who doesn't hav a special interest in children any normal person would not do it, it would be such a risk to involve a drug adict as they could get court with drugs tomorrow and dob him in to try get off any drug charges, I can't see any family member helping this guy what a risk to take for what is worth going and brushing her hair and bathing her because obviously he just makes her cry, this is all so strange

 

[Trooper]

Im starting to think is it possible another man was involved someone who shares TK interest in children and dolls, a man who may cross dress its hard to imagine why a woman would want to be involved in the grooming of a missing child, but I could imagine a man who could even be paying TK for the experience, but it is possible the accused used a woman possibly a drug adict who is doing it for drugs or a drug debit to be payed off its still hard to imagine anyone getting involved who doesn't hav a special interest in children any normal person would not do it, it would be such a risk to involve a drug adict as they could get court with drugs tomorrow and dob him in to try get off any drug charges, I can't see any family member helping this guy what a risk to take for what is worth going and brushing her hair and bathing her because obviously he just makes her cry, this is all so strange

I can't see any member of his community helping.. he has bought real pain and suffering upon them, by merely being charged with this crime. The poor bloke who was mistakenly thought to be him was damn near speared by the Elders, in no mood to put up with this nonsense.. That would be done with the backing, unilaterally , of the community.

Any member of that community would know, instinctively, legally, socially, neighborly, psychologically, intrinsically, that it was w.r.o.n.g. and that a big lot of real long man's trouble would very quickly descend.

And it did. Once the child was reported missing, the army, the airforce, probably the Navy, NASA, Pine Gap, Telstra, WAPOL, INTERpol, bounty hunters, helicopter pilots, fishermen, Uncle Tom Cobbley and all was on the lookout.

 

[Deleted member 296843]

The million dollar reward should not be off the table until the second person is captured or illuminated the reward is for the conviction isn't it

 

[Estelle]

theres a photo of tk unshaven, in a daily mail article, where he could pass as a woman, not sure i can link it though without my post being deleted?
he was hairy and bearded when caught though

Four year olds are not stupid. If TK dressed up in women's clothes, he would still have a similar voice and his hair would be the same. Wearing something over his hair would probably look ridiculous inside his house and we still have the beard to disguise even if he used a mask which is unlikely.

Perhaps his aunt felt sorry for him so helped, owed him a favour, wanted cannabis in return or helped police to find him in return for not being charged. It sounded as if it was a sudden move by police based on a tip.

I think the police could be drip feeding the media one piece of the puzzle at a time.

 

[JudgeJudi]

RSBM

In an article I read, a neighbour claimed to have seen a little girl when he went to ‘drop something off’ at TK’s house

If it's possible, are you able to find a link for this? I've looked but was unsuccessful.

 

[kkdj]

Did TK have a job? If so, what were his hours?

 

[Estelle]

RSBM

If it's possible, are you able to find a link for this? I've looked but was unsuccessful.

Someone in a previous post speculated that the girl seen at his house could have been the 6 year old.

 

[Deleted member 296843]

We know he did a sad face emoji on a Facebook article of CS but I wonder what else he did online that wasn't from his Facebook like could he hav been blogging or on websleuths or a similar platform trying to persuade the narrative or chat about the situation with others through a platform like this

 

[Trooper]

Did TK have a job? If so, what were his hours?

so far as is known, he sold cannabis to the odd travelling camper.. between the hours of 1am and 3am..

 

[Estelle]

Did TK have a job? If so, what were his hours?

IMO There has been no mention of his ever having been employed and no mention of any employers or colleagues coming out to say that they worked with him. Therefore, IMO he could have left school and has been receiving a Disability or other pension ever since.

 

[HilaryHormone]

RSBM

If it's possible, are you able to find a link for this? I've looked but was unsuccessful.

I’ve looked too, but no luck. Can definitely remember it though. Wondering if it has been removed from an article or if the link was in one of the now deleted threads.

 

[Gotta have Faith]

If he had driven to the police station and dropped her off, then driven away----how long before they came after him? Not long, most likely. They'd have cctv of his vehicle and they'd hunt him down in no time.

I don't think it would have been easy to find a way to release her without it revealing who he was.

He allegedly abducted CS because he COULD !! The tent was an easy target, everyone else had Motorhomes or caravans and he couldn't gain access. If anyone else had a tent they would have stories of thefts etc. I believe he has been at the campsite previously and found things he could steal and sell on the internet for his "obsession"

 

[Gotta have Faith]

Could it be he was trying to understand and process his own parental loss at age 2 when the 'grandmother' took him in, by watching it all unfold? JMO MOO

I think trying to analyse TK is just pure speculation.......we at some point all suffer some loss, it's how we come out the other end that defines us. We don't know his train of thought, we cannot say one of the other this is what the reason is for his behaviour. he got lucky on one of his jaunts and allegedly abducted a young girl not from his own race. Why? I don't think he even knows, perhaps the thrill of stealing and not being caught?