Australia - Warriena Wright, 26, dies in balcony fall, Surfers Paradise, Aug 2014 #1

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  • #601
"Rise and fall of flawed hermit Gable Tostee caught in fatal web of sex hook-ups"

Wtfh, I *hate* how this headline makes HIM sound like the victim!!!

The only person who 'fell' was Warriena. The only person caught ina 'fatal' anything was -- Warriena.

I think Gable Tostee has less 'fallen' than lived a long, slow decline from the innocence of his first year alive until he hit the region of 'total 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬' at the age of 28. Whoever wrote that headline needs a good kick in the pants. IMO.
 
  • #602
And autistic people can be totally culpable, murdering a-holes, too.
 
  • #603
And autistic people can be totally culpable, murdering a-holes, too.

Yes. Yes they can. Gee wizz I do hope it's not used as a line of defence in this case though. One step forward, ten steps backwards for those who otherwise devote themselves to generating much needed public awareness & support for people living with an autism spectrum disorder. Negative publicity connecting crime with it has a way of sticking in some people's minds and generating unjust generalized stereotyping and false information.

I'll use an example: "My son has Aspergers". Response: "Is that the same thing that Port Arthur Bryant guy had?". Yes. Somebody opened their mouth and actually said that to me. Sadly, there will always be people who automatically link Aspergers to the likes of Martin Bryant (as opposed to the many brilliant minds who keep humanity moving forward!).

If GT does in fact have an ASD, please media.... don't stuff this up and take us back decades. Focus on the individual. One in every hundred or so people don't deserve to be tarred with same brush.
 
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No - he's been completely mute with the police - but outrageously chatty on social media.

Stupidly so, you might say.......:waitasec:

Bet he wants to say something now.......
 
  • #606

There was another photo, closer up, with two detectives on the balcony. One was leaning back and looking up to the floor above and one was leaning out looking over the balcony. It showed the stain/mark you're talking about. It definitely caught my eye, like is that blood? Or like you say, maybe a water stain? It was a much closer up pic than than the one you posted, but I cannot find it, sorry.
 
  • #607
Well I learned very little from that latest courier mail article. All they have done basically is put up some of his online quotes.
i.m way more interested in his background, what he is OCD over and why he is considered an autistic savant, and exactly what he has been doing over the last 10 years. Why can't they talk to people who actually knew him?
Your average WS poster could have written a more interesting factual article than that.
 
  • #608
Hey all. Just a quick question. Is it normal in Australia to have security cameras in your home? To me, it is rather odd and sounds kind of creepy. But I'm in the states, and I'm sure lots and lots that we do here sounds weird to y'all. TIA
 
  • #609
I don't think that police believe this was some kind of horsing around or sex act gone wrong. It is a murder charge.

There was loud arguing before the three screams .. the second scream was described as filled with fear.

http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/sick-and-frightening-scream-balcony-death/2348688/

It's weird because up to yesterday I probably would have thought that the most likely scenario was where he somehow put her on the edge of the balcony, either through anger or some other act of stupidity, and Warriena fell. But this morning I was reflecting on what we have seen of him through his online presence, and it kind of hit me that he could well have thrown her over the balcony deliberately. Maybe in a fit of anger at rejection. I thought there's nothing to say he actually threw her over, but there's nothing to say he didn't either. From what I gather, he had issues with rejection and he was a loose cannon prone to alcoholic blow outs and black outs. I think it's entirely possible that he threw her over the balcony in a fit of rage. There's just nothing to say that didn't happen. I hope that the QPS have found enough evidence to back up the murder charge. I do wonder if they go for murder, with the possibility it might be downgraded to manslaughter at trial. But it does seem they have found some critical piece of evidence to warrant the murder charge.
 
  • #610
Hey all. Just a quick question. Is it normal in Australia to have security cameras in your home? To me, it is rather odd and sounds kind of creepy. But I'm in the states, and I'm sure lots and lots that we do here sounds weird to y'all. TIA

Nope, you're right. It's weird. It might be understood if you have precious art or something worth protecting like that, but it is not normal to have cameras in your house. It's creepy.
 
  • #611
Yeah it's creepy all right .. I can only think of one reason for it.
 
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Detective Superintendent David Hutchinson of the Gold Coast CIB told APNZ screams were heard at the unit "shortly before the fall" at 2.30am on Friday. "There was a disturbance in the unit, there were raised voices."

Police had obtained statements from nearby residents who witnessed and heard "certain things". Mr Hutchinson would not go into further detail.

http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/sick-and-frightening-scream-balcony-death/2348688/

I jumped ahead... And found GT has been arrested...

I am so glad to see the wheels of Justice turning for poor Warriena...

I am behind in reading... So please accept my apologies if this has already been addressed ...

But I am so curious to know if the neighbors who heard arguments from GT's apartment could also hear what was being said/argued about...

:waitasec:
 
  • #613
Yeah, he's not flashing those pearly whites today.

Camp Chair, I do have a daughter.. and I have done everything in my power to instil a sense of self-respect in her (eta: and so has she! to give her some credit, lol) It's not easy, I feel young women are even more objectified now than they were in my youth.

I think it must be hard to raise boys too.

Speaking of parents -- you know what effing burns me up as well? NOT ONE word from Mr & Mrs Tostee about Warriena's death. No "we feel for her family', nothing.

Oh My...

Interesting point made...

GT's parents have made no announcement of sympathy for the death of Warriena...(that I have read/heard, anyway...) :(
 
  • #614
That Courier Mail article is disappointing writing in terms of being a news story. A compilation of forum posts isn't news imo, and there aren't too many 'facts' in there. Where does the info about him being an autistic savant come from? Surely not just GT's own bragging posts on a forum? Don't even get me started on how the article ends - unless there is more following in the subscriber or print versions?
Sorry it just irked me reading that as it just came across as sensationalist and without much substance. I think I've woken up grumpy! :gaah:
 
  • #615
Here's a thought (one my husband just put to me) --- is it possible that GT could have attacked her, panicked at what he'd done, and then threw her over the balcony in an attempt to destroy evidence that he directly caused her death?? (some more parallels with GBC come to mind here too)

Wow! this is a VERY interesting theory...

and... Possibly why GT hasn't been proclaiming that Warriena jumped, fell, etc.... Or hasn't given ANY type of defense...there just may be way too many incriminating pieces of evidence that LE can potentially discover... That he hopes will not be uncovered...and by speaking... He might just lead LE to the real cause of death...

(I hope this is clear... It is in my head... But in a post?... Questionable...:waitasec:)
 
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You know, I hate to start up the old steroid conversation again - but he actually looks much more solid and muscly than he did in all the old photos we've seen of him.....I'm wondering if he is indeed on the gear??

I am no expert...and do not wish to be oppositional...

But, to me, he just looks like he is getting chubbier... And chubbier...

maybe too much of mama's good cooking?

and too distracted to work out?

:dunno:
 
  • #618
Every time I look at the pic of him being led along by detectives I do a double-take thinking that the bald guy has a Mr T style mohawk.

Oh My Gosh...:floorlaugh:

So did I when I looked at that pic initially...

I was wondering if the officer had a "Mr. T" sorta thing goin' on with the hair...

:D
 
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[h=1]Police charge Gable Tostee with murder and allege Warriena Tagpuno Wright’s last moments caught on tape[/h]
http://www.news.com.au/national/pol...s-caught-on-tape/story-e6frfkp9-1227026185382

Does that mean they have the whole thing? If so .. He's Tostee!

Wow!

According to this article (my words here)...

LE has retrieved recording which details the interactions between GG and WW around the time of her death.

This is pretty big news... And could be "the smoking gun"...

and... I wonder why GT didn't rid his apartment of all recordings after the death of WW...

but... From posting on SM that he keeps these types of recordings he could have just taken a big ole billboard out and advertised," Hey, LE! Look on my apartment cams... You will find what you need there!"

:doh:
 
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