Australia - Warriena Wright, 26, dies in balcony fall, Surfers Paradise, Aug 2014 #2

[Amee]

Neighbours recall seeing them drinking on the balcony, before hearing an argument and a woman’s screams.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...cony-death-20140814-104910.html#ixzz3Cxm1Z3Hj

 

[Ausgirl]

Judge said
Given Tostee did not appear to be on the balcony at the time, murder will be hard to prove.
Although theoretically your client was not on the balcony it makes the murder case a little bit more difficult.

http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...body-covered-in-scratches-after-balcony-death

The main reason I am still thinking he could have been out there with Rrie is that he clearly is manipulating the conversation in his favour in other parts of the recording, "where's my money" etc, so I am seriously wondering if he did the same so it sounded like she was out there on her own and was not. Plus, all the death-by-balcony talk earlier... plus "I would, but you've been a bad girl", plus the violence and choking immediately prior, the sheerly abusive, bullying language...

Idk, I can see him contributing to her fall directly. If it's proved he didn't, then that's all good. But right now, I can see it. I just hope the prosecution looks a bit deeper into that part of the recording..

 

[SouthAussie]

Hi SouthAussie! :loveyou:

BBM What a fun guy to meet while out and about on the town! I'm glad my days of meeting guys in bars are long over. My hot date from the other night: It was fun, except I was in bed watching cat videos on youtube and there wasn't a date. :crazy:

Hey, thank you so much for searching for that post. I think the thread below has the post you were looking for. He states he DOES HAVE a prescription for Ambien but is scared to take it. Then a few posts later he says he took 1/2 of an ambien and asks about Halcyon.

These particular posts are from almost three years ago, but at least we know at one point he had Ambien.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=140112393&highlight

That's the one! Good find!!

He better watch out .. with all of his sleeping meds experimentation, he may be a good case for alzheimers when he is older .. according to recent studies.

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sc...increase-alzheimers-risk-20140910-10elto.html

 

[sosocurious]

I agree Ausgirl.

 

[Ausgirl]

there were 2 according to this MSM. One neighbour directly below and the other two floors under GT's


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...ble-tostees-unit/story-fnihsrf2-1227051950766

Thanks Amee!!!! From the link:

In an interview with police, Emily Ellis, who lives two floors under Tostee, said she walked out to her balcony after hearing “thudding and scuffling’’ from above.

“I then moved to the corner of my balcony and tried to look up to see what was happening above me,’’ she said. “I could see a girl climbing over the balcony from the unit above us. All I could see of her was her legs. One minute she was above me and then the next she was in front of me and then she was on the ground down the bottom.

“I saw her fall all the way."

-- If all this witness could see was legs, was Rrie *really "climbing" at that point, or is this an assumption made?


Ms Collyer-Wiedner told police she stepped out to the balcony to see two legs dangling down.

“The person did not say anything and neither did I,” she said. “In a matter of seconds I saw the person fall from the balcony above mine … I screamed when the person was falling and I think that the person screamed as well.”


--- so the legs here are 'dangling' not 'climbing'. I really hope these witnesses are pressed for details, ie, which way her feet were facing, if they saw her actually climbing over or just hanging there, etc.

 

[MsAnais]

Neighbours recall seeing them drinking on the balcony, before hearing an argument and a woman’s screams.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...cony-death-20140814-104910.html#ixzz3Cxm1Z3Hj

Oooohhhh.....that is no small thing!! If neighbours saw them out on the balcony just before she went over, he's in alot of trouble.

Pleeeease be witnesses!!

 

[sosocurious]

Oooohhhh.....that is no small thing!! If neighbours saw them out on the balcony just before she went over, he's in alot of trouble.

Pleeeease be witnesses!!

Could the sound of the something metallic dropping have been outdoor furniture.

 

[Amee]

so just after Rrie tried to hit him with something she is forced out the doors. Choking her to make her let it go.

2.17.30am: Cmon, get up. Get up. Female states — I am so sorry. Male states I don’t care. Struggling — male — you don’t understand do ya. You don’t understand anything at all do you.
Struggle. Male states ‘let go’. You think that you hit me and I was going to fall down like in the movies. More laboured breathing sounds. Male states let go of it. Let go. Let go. More choking sounds.

2.18am: First choking sounds.

2.18.30am: Still laboured breathing sounds. Breathing slows. Male: “Let it go.”

2.19.30am: Sound of something dropping (metallic)

2.20am: Sound consistent with door unlocking. Female: “No.” Possible sound of glass door being hit.

2.20.30am: Male: “Who the (expletive) do you think you are? Hey?” Female: “No, no, no.”

Male: “You tried to kill me huh?” Male: “Well, why did you try and hit me with that. Huh? Shut your filthy mouth.”

http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au...leged-recordings/story-fnje8bkv-1227053364751

 

[sosocurious]

so just after Rrie tried to hit him with something she is forced out the doors. Choking her to make her let it go.

2.17.30am: Cmon, get up. Get up. Female states — I am so sorry. Male states I don’t care. Struggling — male — you don’t understand do ya. You don’t understand anything at all do you.
Struggle. Male states ‘let go’. You think that you hit me and I was going to fall down like in the movies. More laboured breathing sounds. Male states let go of it. Let go. Let go. More choking sounds.

2.18am: First choking sounds.

2.18.30am: Still laboured breathing sounds. Breathing slows. Male: “Let it go.”

2.19.30am: Sound of something dropping (metallic)

2.20am: Sound consistent with door unlocking. Female: “No.” Possible sound of glass door being hit.

2.20.30am: Male: “Who the (expletive) do you think you are? Hey?” Female: “No, no, no.”

Male: “You tried to kill me huh?” Male: “Well, why did you try and hit me with that. Huh? Shut your filthy mouth.”

http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au...leged-recordings/story-fnje8bkv-1227053364751

Not outdoor furniture they were still inside.

 

[they'll get you]

Yeah .. that clattering of a metallic object is interesting isn't it? A defensive item? Handcuffs? On what surface?

In an interview with police, Emily Ellis, who lives two floors under Tostee, said she walked out to her balcony after hearing “thudding and scuffling’’ from above.
I'm imagining a metal chair upturned onto the balcony tiles. Possibly the table dragged toward the balustrade. Just some thoughts.
Tostee's balcony is above and slightly to the side of the neighbours bedroom so think it could be a sudden loud noise.

 

[they'll get you]

so just after Rrie tried to hit him with something she is forced out the doors. Choking her to make her let it go.

2.17.30am: Cmon, get up. Get up. Female states — I am so sorry. Male states I don’t care. Struggling — male — you don’t understand do ya. You don’t understand anything at all do you.
Struggle. Male states ‘let go’. You think that you hit me and I was going to fall down like in the movies. More laboured breathing sounds. Male states let go of it. Let go. Let go. More choking sounds.

2.18am: First choking sounds.

2.18.30am: Still laboured breathing sounds. Breathing slows. Male: “Let it go.”

2.19.30am: Sound of something dropping (metallic)

2.20am: Sound consistent with door unlocking. Female: “No.” Possible sound of glass door being hit.

2.20.30am: Male: “Who the (expletive) do you think you are? Hey?” Female: “No, no, no.”

Male: “You tried to kill me huh?” Male: “Well, why did you try and hit me with that. Huh? Shut your filthy mouth.”

http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au...leged-recordings/story-fnje8bkv-1227053364751

Would his hand marks remain on her throat so close to death?
This is a horrible nightmare.

 

[Whatson]

This line from transcript??

1.07am: Female says 'I know you want to kill me because you told me so.' Further reference to dying from smoking.

??????????

 

[elwyn5150]

Oooohhhh.....that is no small thing!! If neighbours saw them out on the balcony just before she went over, he's in alot of trouble.

Pleeeease be witnesses!!

I hope so too but I don't think there are.

This case still reminds me of how Simon Gittany murdered Lisa Harnum. The police put in a huge effort to ensure their eye witness was flanked by officers when he went to court.
That murder took place from the 15th floor in broad daylight.

This case took place from a 14th floor balcony at 2:20 am.

 

[Amee]

I feel so sorry for Gabriel what an awful thing to witness. :cry:
While she is watching Rrie fall GT is on the phone to his lawyer :gaah:


Gabriele Collyer-Wiedner, who lives on the floor under Tostee, said she woke up at 2am to the loud noises, the Courier Mail reported.

2.21am (approx) - The occupant of the apartment below Mr Tostee's hears a female repeatedly shouting "no, no, no" and then sees "two legs dangling down".

"In a matter of seconds I saw the person fall from the balcony above mine," her witness statement says.

2.21am - A call is placed from Gable Tostee's phone to his lawyer, Michael Purcell. The call doesn't connect.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...nt-balcony-20140908-10e4zm.html#ixzz3Cykbvfgg

 

[sosocurious]

I feel so sorry for Gabriel what an awful thing to witness. :cry:
While she is watching Rrie fall GT is on the phone to his lawyer :gaah:


Gabriele Collyer-Wiedner, who lives on the floor under Tostee, said she woke up at 2am to the loud noises, the Courier Mail reported.

2.21am (approx) - The occupant of the apartment below Mr Tostee's hears a female repeatedly shouting "no, no, no" and then sees "two legs dangling down".

"In a matter of seconds I saw the person fall from the balcony above mine," her witness statement says.

2.21am - A call is placed from Gable Tostee's phone to his lawyer, Michael Purcell. The call doesn't connect.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...nt-balcony-20140908-10e4zm.html#ixzz3Cykbvfgg

Two legs dangling implies to me not supported, ie by the ledge.

It certainly is a horrible nightmare TGY.

Each time I read the transcript and GT saying "get up" "get up". I have this image of him bullying her up/over the rail.
I am not saying this is the case.
It is just those words coupled with the horrific and tragic outcome

 

[they'll get you]

I hope so too but I don't think there are.

This case still reminds me of how Simon Gittany murdered Lisa Harnum. The police put in a huge effort to ensure their eye witness was flanked by officers when he went to court.
That murder took place from the 15th floor in broad daylight.

This case took place from a 14th floor balcony at 2:20 am.

I agree elwyn.
Josh Rathwell was a protected witness who saw Gittany throw Lisa over.

I'm wondering if Tostee looked over the edge to confirm Warriena landed on the pavement or to see if she'd made it to the bottom balcony.

I assume he knew she would be dead.

 

[they'll get you]

2.21am (approx) - The occupant of the apartment below Mr Tostee's hears a female repeatedly shouting "no, no, no" and then sees "two legs dangling down".

Warriena is hanging off the balcony shouting "no, no, no"

Is he removing her hands? Did she realise she was slipping? Why is she shouting that?

Arrrgh this is doing my head in.

 

[possumheart]

In red below is what confuses me. Has GT stopped and taken photos of her body? Otherwise, why would you take a screen shot on your phone of photos that already on there? I interpret a screen shot to be that. But is it clumsy writing, and are they trying to say he photographed her in situ, deceased?
Thoughts?

2.23.30am: 'Oh my god.' Sounds of getting dressed, pulling jeans up, belt etc.
2.26am: Sound of sirens in the background.
2.26.30am: Sound of lift button.
2.28.41am: Walking noises. Footsteps.
2.39.44am: Walking stops.
2.42am: Walking starts again.
2.47am: Call to Michael Purcell.
2.49am: Screen shot taken of phone with images of 'deceased'.
(Prior to this reference Rrie was referred to as 'female' in this transcript.)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-plus-happened-afterwards.html#ixzz3Cz4MYWdg

 

[Whatson]

2.49am: Screen shot taken of phone with images of deceased. [/I]
(Prior to this reference Rrie was referred to as 'female' in this transcript.)

Alot of it is clumsy writing, isn't it. Can't make out if its detectives running on empty (fatigued) or what. Having said that, I don't think he would of gotten close enough to take photos of Warriena deceased, if police were at the scene as he was fleeing.

 

[Amee]

In red below is what confuses me. Has GT stopped and taken photos of her body? Otherwise, why would you take a screen shot on your phone of photos that already on there? I interpret a screen shot to be that. But is it clumsy writing, and are they trying to say he photographed her in situ, deceased?
Thoughts?

2.23.30am: 'Oh my god.' Sounds of getting dressed, pulling jeans up, belt etc.
2.26am: Sound of sirens in the background.
2.26.30am: Sound of lift button.
2.28.41am: Walking noises. Footsteps.
2.39.44am: Walking stops.
2.42am: Walking starts again.
2.47am: Call to Michael Purcell.
2.49am: Screen shot taken of phone with images of deceased.
(Prior to this reference Rrie was referred to as 'female' in this transcript.)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-plus-happened-afterwards.html#ixzz3Cz4MYWdg

Makes you wonder thats for sure. How far away from Rrie's body was the pillar?

It will be alleged Tostee hid behind a pillar as police surrounded Ms Wright’s body where he can be seen pacing backwards and forwards before taking the lift to the basement and exiting the building.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...stees-apartment-fell-death.html#ixzz3CzAhkCZZ