Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sep 2014 - #68

[katydid23]

I doubt it - when you go away for a weekend or a set amount of time, you tend to pack enough for each day so you don't have to wash. Don't you?

Especially when you are tending to a 3 and a 4 yr old---holding them, kneeling down with them, having them on your lap while they eat and drink and climb all over you---[-:

At the end of a long travel day with two pre-schoolers, that shirt is in the hamper. JMO

 

[Couldbe]

I doubt it - when you go away for a weekend or a set amount of time, you tend to pack enough for each day so you don't have to wash. Don't you?

Does anyone recall FFC saying that everyone showered that night when they arrived at FGM's home?
Or that any of the family showered on the Friday morning before breakfast / or after ....before their activities outside / or inside the FGM's home?
Change of clothing, for many people, follows showering/bath.

 

[katydid23]

Does anyone recall FFC saying that everyone showered that night when they arrived at FGM's home?
Or that any of the family showered on the Friday morning before breakfast / or after ....before their activities outside / or inside the FGM's home?
Change of clothing, for many people, follows showering/bath.

So you think she slept in that shirt and pants?

 

[Couldbe]

So you think she slept in that shirt and pants?

Wouldn't think so, but I do not think she would have it necessary, even if she showered again, to "into the hamper" especially since her early morning activities were to involve just playing with the children in the garden, supervising them riding their bikes etc .......

 

[TootsieFootsie]

What makes you think that they wouldn't do what most people would do and have showers or baths ?

Change of clothing, for many people, follows showering/bath.

 

[Travelling Wilbury]

Looks red to me. Looks more like the colour of the Macca's staff member's shirt (in your attached pic) than it does the colour of FM's shirt. imo

Maccas corporate shirts are of stiffer material, have logo’s or stripes (depending on year), and have buttons and collars. This material looks thin and stretchy, like it would drape down when worn.
IMO it looks very close to styling of the top the FFFC wore at maccas and would fade to a similar colour of light red/pink.
Obviously the testing would hold the answers. Or another pic where it could be held up.

 

[Travelling Wilbury]

IMO we'd know by now if it was a remnant of her shirt. Btw, it looks red on my devices too, SA.

Not necessarily. Cops may have a theory, they may need more information. Timing, proof the FFFC drove to that area etc. They would need further proof to enhance the evidence. Depending on what the FMFC lied about proof could be there, who knows

 

[drsleuth]

Dr Sleuth, if FFC had, just say, showered and was dressed in a fresh top and travelled to Kendall in an air-conditioned vehicle....plus knowing that FGM's washing machine was out of action, then JMO that she could very well have worn that same pink coloured top early the next morning.

Nope I don't believe so at all.
Same as I don't believe it's the shirt that was found in the search IMO

High probability that the FFC still has that same shirt too IMO

 

[Travelling Wilbury]

I don't mean to be snarky - but do you want to know how many times she went to the loo as well? Common.

In the interests of investigating properly, I would hope that LE are finding out everything. The more info gained the better. How many sugars in their tea. Whether they scrunch or fold. What way up the dunny roll is.

It’s a pretty crucial piece of evidence if clothing missing, was worn previously and then was found in a search.

 

[Travelling Wilbury]

High probability that the FFC still has that same shirt too IMO

I wonder if they indeed will be looking into this, if not already.

 

[sleepinoz]

In the interests of investigating properly, I would hope that LE are finding out everything. The more info gained the better. How many sugars in their tea. Whether they scrunch or fold. What way up the dunny roll is.

It’s a pretty crucial piece of evidence if clothing missing, was worn previously and then was found in a search.

Yes it would be crucial, but do you think our cops are not aware enough to work this out?

I actually don't believe that if she scrunches instead of folding would make a difference to William being missing, nor the dunny roll way.

This is getting a bit ridiculous IMO

 

[Couldbe]

What makes you think that they wouldn't do what most people would do and have showers or baths ?

The point is .... because the focus of the discussion is, from my point of view, on whether FFC might have been wearing a top which could be connected to a piece of faded coloured fabric found, along with a piece of black fabric LE discovered in their search.

From memory, there was also a piece of hessian bag that LE saw fit to retain for examination.
It would be interesting to know if LE can ascertain if there was any dna. e.g. could they establish if the fabrics revealed any dna.

 

[katydid23]

Wouldn't think so, but I do not think she would have it necessary, even if she showered again, to "into the hamper" especially since her early morning activities were to involve just playing with the children in the garden, supervising them riding their bikes etc .......

Why would she put on dirty clothes the next day? That doesn't seem like something this woman would do. She has a batch of clean clothes to grab from. Who wants to put on clothes you wore all day on a car trip with two toddlers in your care. Believe me, she got stepped on, and she changed nappies and had juice boxes spilled on her, and dirty hands and shoes in her lap, etc. Being the mom of toddlers is a dirty job. lol

 

[katydid23]

Wouldn't think so, but I do not think she would have it necessary, even if she showered again, to "into the hamper" especially since her early morning activities were to involve just playing with the children in the garden, supervising them riding their bikes etc .......

So when she got up that morning, she knew that all she was going to do was play in the garden ands supervise their bike riding? So she put on a dirty shirt for the day? It doesn't sound logical to me.

I am pretty sure she put on a clean shirt, then went to have breakfast with her family and figure out the day from there on.

 

[Travelling Wilbury]

Yes it would be crucial, but do you think our cops are not aware enough to work this out?

I actually believe that if she scrunches instead of folding would make a difference to William being missing, nor the dunny roll way.

This is getting a bit ridiculous IMO

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I’m sure LE would be going over everything, maybe even the original things again to make sure things weren’t missed

 

[sleepinoz]

A very important study years ago found people who put the paper up on the dunny roll are more likely to be lying!

I’m sure LE would be going over everything, maybe even the original things again to make sure things weren’t missed

It would be interesting to read this study - do you have a link or know where I could find it?

 

[Limaes]

Maccas corporate shirts are of stiffer material, have logo’s or stripes (depending on year), and have buttons and collars. This material looks thin and stretchy, like it would drape down when worn.
IMO it looks very close to styling of the top the FFFC wore at maccas and would fade to a similar colour of light red/pink.
Obviously the testing would hold the answers. Or another pic where it could be held up.

Lol agreed, that is not a Macca's shirt.

Red and pink are the same colour with red being the primary colour. Different lighting, level of fading as well as effects of the soil etc it has been buried in would play a part. I am more curious about why it may have been put on display in front of media.

JMO

 

[Limaes]

The point is .... because the focus of the discussion is, from my point of view, on whether FFC might have been wearing a top which could be connected to a piece of faded coloured fabric found, along with a piece of black fabric LE discovered in their search.

From memory, there was also a piece of hessian bag that LE saw fit to retain for examination.
It would be interesting to know if LE can ascertain if there was any dna. e.g. could they establish if the fabrics revealed any dna.

All the things you mentioned have been reported in by the media for the public's perusal. Well worth a discussion CB.

JMO

 

[Travelling Wilbury]

Lol agreed, that is not a Macca's shirt.

Red and pink are the same colour with red being the primary colour. Different lighting, level of fading as well as effects of the soil etc it has been buried in would play a part. I am more curious about why it may have been put on display in front of media.

JMO

And who the hell would dump a maccas shirt. Surely not a worker, as young maccas employees need as much cash as they can to afford their first Hyundai.

 

[SouthAussie]

The point is .... because the focus of the discussion is, from my point of view, on whether FFC might have been wearing a top which could be connected to a piece of faded coloured fabric found, along with a piece of black fabric LE discovered in their search.

From memory, there was also a piece of hessian bag that LE saw fit to retain for examination.
It would be interesting to know if LE can ascertain if there was any dna. e.g. could they establish if the fabrics revealed any dna.

Perhaps FGM had a red sheet or blanket in the car, or a red horse feedbag or red shopping bag in the boot, and FM decided to toss that out at the end of her mother's street, along with the deceased body of her little boy.

Then rush back, have a quick look around, disturb the neighbours, call the police ... then we know the rest of the story.