Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sep 2014 - #70

[Mauig’ma]

At some point, the task force decided to target the FP's in order to rattle them and get them to confess.

The Task Force began their mission, which was similar to the one that BS is now suing them for. They put several things in motion:
-alerting the public to their belief that the FP's were guilty.
-rolling out a very high profile search of all the areas the FP's traveled on the day of the incident
-telling the birth family that Wm was probably buried in the garden
-speaking to Wm's sister, and probably implying that her parents killed her little brother


How is the sister going to feel about all of this? How is she going to respond to her parents at home? Is she going to call them murderers and say she hates them? I would think that kind of thing probably happened.

What if the child screamed angrily that at them and FM slapped her or forcefully tried to prevent her from leaving the house ?

What if the alleged stalking was the FP's reaching out to her, attempting to convince her of their innocence?

In other words, I think there is a possibility that all of the allegations by LE are being misconstrued by some of the public. The same thing happened when they targeted BS. He looked 100% guilty and I was convinced he was.

There may be explanations for the circumstances which do not prove guilt. JMO


I MIGHT BE TOTALLY WRONG. THEY MIGHT BE VICIOUS KILLERS AND DESERVE TO BE IN JAIL FOR LIFE. BUT GIVEN WHAT WE KNOW SO FAR, I AM NOT CONVINCED OF THAT.

I respectfully disagree with all of the above. Moo Btw no hard feelings. It’s a feeling I have especially with the new allegations. Moo

 

[Mauig’ma]

DM is not paywalled. Perhaps others don't see the paywalled articles which have written about these things.

Exactly. Are we now having to pay to read the truth? Idk. Maybe

 

[SouthAussie]

Exactly. Are we now having to pay to read the truth? Idk. Maybe

Yes. imo

Because those publications don't go heavy on advertising and they have high-priced journos to pay.

 

[Mauig’ma]

Exactly. Are we now having to pay to read the truth? Idk. Maybe

I respect everyone on here. Especially the die hard that have been here for years. Please don’t think I’m being rude. I’m only trying to understand & have you see my point of view too. We all want this solved so please let’s not lose sight of what we’re trying to accomplish. Finding William. I’m sorry if I upset anyone. That’s never been my intention. Moo

 

[Awakening]

I disagree. I don’t think le isn’t in any hurry to arrest anyone quite yet. Imo they need more time and hopefully whoever disappeared William will get caught up in lies & maybe le are finally bugging their house. Imo they should be already due to the charges brought foreword already. I think they’re getting closer than ever imo. I feel they want to make sure they have all their ducks in a row and more evidence to arrest and convict. I have a good feeling that William will get the justice he deserves. Sometimes it takes longer is all. Moo imo

That's what I'm saying. There's obviously no imminent arrest because there's no urgency. There's no imminent arrest because they don't currently have the evidence to arrest.

When the big dig started last year I was hopeful there would be an arrest within weeks or months.

That didn't happen. So I can only conclude that nothing much came from that massive search and forensic investigations.

Therefore it looks like their only strategy is to hope someone breaks. Which if that didn't happen last year I doubt they'll break now. I'm not so hopeful anymore.

 

[Mauig’ma]

That's what I'm saying. There's obviously no imminent arrest because there's no urgency. There's no imminent arrest because they don't currently have the evidence to arrest.

When the big dig started last year I was hopeful there would be an arrest within weeks or months.

That didn't happen. So I can only conclude that nothing much came from that massive search and forensic investigations.

Therefore it looks like their only strategy is to hope someone breaks. Which if that didn't happen last year I doubt they'll break now. I'm not so hopeful anymore.

And you have a right to your opinion just as all of us here do. I’ll never give up hope. No matter what happens. If you lose hope what else do you have? Imo. So I’m going to continue praying and hoping justice comes. It’ll be when we least expect it imo

 

[katydid23]

Do you really think that the police task force would imply to William's sister that the FP's killed her brother? Wow.

Absolutely. She is old enough to read the news and watch the news and look at social media. She can't help but read that her parents are now the prime suspects. She will see that her grandmother's home was searched again and their cars are being impounded and searched. Her parents home was probably searched as well.

And they questioned her again, I am pretty sure. Are they not going to ask questions about what her parents did that morning, and if she had any suspicions? She would be the perfect witness for them.

 

[katydid23]

I respect everyone on here. Especially the die hard that have been here for years. Please don’t think I’m being rude. I’m only trying to understand & have you see my point of view too. We all want this solved so please let’s not lose sight of what we’re trying to accomplish. Finding William. I’m sorry if I upset anyone. That’s never been my intention. Moo

I understand. And I agree with you. I want justice for our sweet boy William as well.

 

[Couldbe]

Absolutely. She is old enough to read the news and watch the news and look at social media. She can't help but read that her parents are now the prime suspects. She will see that her grandmother's home was searched again and their cars are being impounded and searched. Her parents home was probably searched as well.

And they questioned her again, I am pretty sure. Are they not going to ask questions about what her parents did that morning, and if she had any suspicions? She would be the perfect witness for them.

Seeing the News coverage could quite possibly have triggered one or two memories that had been stored in her brain, and she became troubled by the inconsistencies of information of which she more recently became aware.
Just saying …….

 

[SouthAussie]

That's what I'm saying. There's obviously no imminent arrest because there's no urgency. There's no imminent arrest because they don't currently have the evidence to arrest.

When the big dig started last year I was hopeful there would be an arrest within weeks or months.

That didn't happen. So I can only conclude that nothing much came from that massive search and forensic investigations.

Therefore it looks like their only strategy is to hope someone breaks. Which if that didn't happen last year I doubt they'll break now. I'm not so hopeful anymore.

Just jumping off your post .... I don't see any arrests happening (for William's disappearance) unless a prosecutor can overcome the reasonable doubt.

As far as I can see, at the moment there is a bucketload of reasonable doubt - any defence lawyer can make mincemeat out of a case against anyone.
Because there are other players who still could have abducted William, and because William hasn't been found he could still be lost (through his own doing) somewhere.

Circumstantial evidence cannot be airy fairy ... as in "this could have happened" .... for a successful outcome.
It needs to be "this did happen".

Evidence-wise, they seem to be in the same or similar place to where they have been for a few years.

imo

 

[KateM]

Absolutely. She is old enough to read the news and watch the news and look at social media. She can't help but read that her parents are now the prime suspects. She will see that her grandmother's home was searched again and their cars are being impounded and searched. Her parents home was probably searched as well.

And they questioned her again, I am pretty sure. Are they not going to ask questions about what her parents did that morning, and if she had any suspicions? She would be the perfect witness for them.

If the sister does think that the FP's are involved, I don't think she would need the police to tell her. That poor girl has been through so much.

 

[Tessi V]

That's what I'm saying. There's obviously no imminent arrest because there's no urgency. There's no imminent arrest because they don't currently have the evidence to arrest.

When the big dig started last year I was hopeful there would be an arrest within weeks or months.

That didn't happen. So I can only conclude that nothing much came from that massive search and forensic investigations.

Therefore it looks like their only strategy is to hope someone breaks. Which if that didn't happen last year I doubt they'll break now. I'm not so hopeful anymore.

I believe it's an unusual case with unique circumstances which has made it difficult (for them) to compile evidence and carefully manoeuvre through the whole investigation. Especially while LT still remained in their care.
IMO the foster care status has continually impeded it from Day 1 and has largely contributed to restricting the NSW Police from undergoing or following normal procedures. MOO.

 

[SleepyJoe]

Absolutely. She is old enough to read the news and watch the news and look at social media. She can't help but read that her parents are now the prime suspects. She will see that her grandmother's home was searched again and their cars are being impounded and searched. Her parents home was probably searched as well.

And they questioned her again, I am pretty sure. Are they not going to ask questions about what her parents did that morning, and if she had any suspicions? She would be the perfect witness for them.

Hi katydid23,
As discussed previously in this thread the child who we assume was LT was removed from the foster carers' care and placed in another family when the assault charges were served. My personal opinion is that we should use accurate terms. The FFC and MFC were her foster carers, not her "parents". This is how they were referred to in the inquest. LT has biological parents and she has current foster carers who she is now living with and former foster carers, who we refer to as FFC and MFC as per the Coroner. This is certainly not intended to offend anyone, it is just to be accurate and avoid any unnecessary emotional overtones, which I think is always important for objective discussion of specific details of a case.
Thanks.

 

[T-dawg420]

Well, she is not pursuing the FP, if that's what you mean by 'not being objective'.

She clearly stated in her last article 'what if they are wrong' about the recent/current police pursuit of the FP.

It could be seen as objective to consider both sides of the coin. The FP innocence in relation to the disappearance of William being one of those sides of the coin.

To follow off this post I agree with this. I find being objective and without bias a constant self battle. Imo it’s very important to remain as objective as possible.

One of the hardest things I find is to admit when you are wrong, or even the possibility of being wrong. We all have differing opinions in one way or another, and I hope we are all here trying to achieve the same common goal.

I personally find the DM to be quick on the draw, and sometimes borderline reckless In their reporting! I get they need to make a dollar, and this seems to be a problem with a lot of reporting, however, i would be very hesitant to take what they report as gospel, esp if you can’t find and corroborating reporting from other news agencies. Imo

 

[SleepyJoe]

One of the hardest things I find is to admit when you are wrong, or even the possibility of being wrong. We all have differing opinions in one way or another, and I hope we are all here trying to achieve the same common goal.

100% agree with this.

I personally find the DM to be quick on the draw, and sometimes borderline reckless In their reporting! I get they need to make a dollar, and this seems to be a problem with a lot of reporting, however, i would be very hesitant to take what they report as gospel, esp if you can’t find and corroborating reporting from other news agencies. Imo

Just out of interest, has anyone found anything in any of the DM articles about William to be false? I realise that things like dates of the FFC's trip to the airport have differed a bit between various journalists, but has there been any big errors that the DM have published? I haven't compared all the different MSM reports of things, but Candace Sutton who is the journo writing about William's case for the DM seems to be okay and on the money from what I have read. Interested to hear others' opinions though!

 

[SouthAussie]

Just out of interest, has anyone found anything in any of the DM articles about William to be false? I realise that things like dates of the FFC's trip to the airport have differed a bit between various journalists, but has there been any big errors that the DM have published?

Calling BS a convicted pedo might be seen as a big error. Seeing that he sued them for defamation for slipping that into two of their articles.


(Linked for the byline.)

Accused child molester Bill Spedding returns to his hometown

Accused child molester Bill Spedding returned to his hometown of Bonny Hills, south of Port Macquarie, on Saturday after being granted bail for child sex offences by the NSW Supreme Court .

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Mauig’ma]

Absolutely. She is old enough to read the news and watch the news and look at social media. She can't help but read that her parents are now the prime suspects. She will see that her grandmother's home was searched again and their cars are being impounded and searched. Her parents home was probably searched as well.

And they questioned her again, I am pretty sure. Are they not going to ask questions about what her parents did that morning, and if she had any suspicions? She would be the perfect witness for them.

I agree as well. Nice post btw

 

[Mauig’ma]

Probably calling BS a convicted pedo might be seen as a big error. Seeing that he sued them for defamation for slipping that into two of their articles.


(Linked for the byline.)

Accused child molester Bill Spedding returns to his hometown

Accused child molester Bill Spedding returned to his hometown of Bonny Hills, south of Port Macquarie, on Saturday after being granted bail for child sex offences by the NSW Supreme Court .

www.dailymail.co.uk

Probably calling BS a convicted pedo might be seen as a big error. Seeing that he sued them for defamation for slipping that into two of their articles.


(Linked for the byline.)

Accused child molester Bill Spedding returns to his hometown

Accused child molester Bill Spedding returned to his hometown of Bonny Hills, south of Port Macquarie, on Saturday after being granted bail for child sex offences by the NSW Supreme Court .

www.dailymail.co.uk

I think sleepyjoe is talking about THIS case imo. Correct me sleepyjoe if I’m wrong. I agree the DM hasn’t been wrong. They may mess up on minor things like names misspelled but they’re always spot on with the truth when news breaks. Moo

 

[Mauig’ma]

Absolutely. She is old enough to read the news and watch the news and look at social media. She can't help but read that her parents are now the prime suspects. She will see that her grandmother's home was searched again and their cars are being impounded and searched. Her parents home was probably searched as well.

And they questioned her again, I am pretty sure. Are they not going to ask questions about what her parents did that morning, and if she had any suspicions? She would be the perfect witness for them.

This is exactly what I think happened. We will find out more as time goes by and the foster parents have their day(s) in court imo. It’s coming up soon. I’ll bet you this last search and charges against the foster parents will break the case wide open. Of course this is only my opinion. <modsnip> I always keep an open mind ALWAYS! That’s something all of us including le NEED to ALWAYS do. Because look where we are now years later… The truth is finally coming to light. <modsnip> Times have changed. Amount of trips have changed etc. <modsnip> I doubt le would go through all of this to be sued again. Do you? I think they learned their lesson Imo. Prayers for William today and everyday! I love you lil one. RIP

 

[FromGermany1]

According to The Daily Telegraph, Spedding reported to Port Macquarie police at 8:15 am and was then seen at the Bonny Hills general store before he retreated to an unknown relative’s house in Lakewood, east of Kew.

WHY was it so very newsworthy to mention the unknown relative's house in LAKEWOOD, east of Kew ...?? The world is small, especially around Kendall.