Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sep 2014 - #71

[KateM]

Oh boy. I've had family come to stay with me for a night or two to help me with moving house. I'd be awfully annoyed if people were saying I'd had to get a carer.

I wonder how the FGM managed her shopping. Was she still driving?

 

[KateM]

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But he could easily be calling the carport the garage.
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I think that's where he parked, as that's the carport they showed on 60 Minutes when they spoke of him leaving the morning that William 'disappeared'

 

[JLZ]

I wonder how the FGM managed her shopping. Was she still driving?

I don't know. I thought asking MFC to pick up a newspaper sounded like she read them regularly. If somebody grocery shopped for her, it wouldn't be daily.

 

[sleepinoz]

I don't know. I thought asking MFC to pick up a newspaper sounded like she read them regularly. If somebody grocery shopped for her, it wouldn't be daily.

I haven't watched the long version of FGM walk through, as has been mentioned here, did she mention that she asked him to pick up a paper?

 

[JLZ]

I haven't watched the long version of FGM walk through, as has been mentioned here, did she mention that she asked him to pick up a paper?

I'm not quite sure where I saw that. Should I delete? Sorry.

 

[sleepinoz]

I'm not quite sure where I saw that. Should I delete? Sorry.

No, it's been mentioned many times in our discussions. I just wanted to know if she mentioned it in the walk through. Did she forget to mention it, and other things?

 

[T-dawg420]

Im not sure if discussing the where’s William episode by Lia Harris is allowed. I was listening to it again and I find this strange. This is the direct quotes from the FFC and MFC about about why the FFC automatically believed William was kidnapped..

FFC: so what made me think that he was snatched, that somebody had taken him? Was that the fact that I couldn’t see him going into the bush. I couldn’t see him running down the slope to that, to the street. I, it was just..

MFC: nup, he wouldn’t do it, he wouldn’t do it

FFC: I actually, I don’t have the words to describe what it was like standing there looking out and thinking, why is he not here, I don’t understand this. But it’s the only……somebody was there.

So according to both, William wouldn’t go down to the road But they are sure he’s still been kidnapped (snatched, taken)? This goes with the MFC stating in the police run through that William “wasn’t a wanderer”.

So not only was someone waiting on purpose or just coming past by happenstance, but they believe because William wouldn’t have gone down to the road or the bush, so the kidnapper must have made their way up quite close to the house? That Seems quite far fetched imo.

The part I referenced is from Ep 3: One Last Roar, around 5:40

 

[JLZ]

No, it's been mentioned many times in our discussions. I just wanted to know if she mentioned it in the walk through. Did she forget to mention it, and other things?

I've looked over so much today, videos and text, I'm not even sure if I heard it or read it. I thought there was a longer though not necessarily complete version of FGM's walkthrough at the bottom of one of the DM articles but now I'm only seeing a three-minute version.

 

[sleepinoz]

Im not sure if discussing the where’s William episode by Lia Harris is allowed. I was listening to it again and I find this strange. This is the direct quotes from the FFC and MFC about about why the FFC automatically believed William was kidnapped..

FFC: so what made me think that he was snatched, that somebody had taken him? Was that the fact that I couldn’t see him going into the bush. I couldn’t see him running down the slope to that, to the street. I, it was just..

MFC: nup, he wouldn’t do it, he wouldn’t do it

FFC: I actually, I don’t have the words to describe what it was like standing there looking out and thinking, why is he not here, I don’t understand this. But it’s the only……somebody was there.

So according to both, William wouldn’t go down to the road But they are sure he’s still been kidnapped (snatched, taken)? This goes with the MFC stating in the police run through that William “wasn’t a wanderer”.

So not only was someone waiting on purpose or just coming past by happenstance, but they believe because William wouldn’t have gone down to the road or the bush, so the kidnapper must have made their way up quite close to the house? That Seems quite far fetched imo.

The part I referenced is from Ep 3: One Last Roar, around 5:40

IMO - I think their feelings/thoughts were influenced because of the fact William was hidden/stolen before by the Bio's, I don't think Bio's had anything to do with this, but I think it would have played on the FF minds at the time of Williams disappearance. If you know it's happened before, you would think it could happen again.

 

[sleepinoz]

I've looked over so much today, videos and text, I'm not even sure if I heard it or read it. I thought there was a longer though not necessarily complete version of FGM's walkthrough at the bottom of one of the DM articles but now I'm only seeing a three-minute version.

Yes, it's the only one I could find but others have mentioned a longer version - anyone have a link?

 

[T-dawg420]

IMO - I think their feelings/thoughts were influenced because of the fact William was hidden/stolen before by the Bio's, I don't think Bio's had anything to do with this, but I think it would have played on the FF minds at the time of Williams disappearance. If you know it's happened before, you would think it could happen again.

When you say it’s happened before. Was William taken from the care of the Foster Carers? Or was he hidden when DOCS tried to remove him from bios care? Or both?

edit to fix Grammar and spelling

 

[JLZ]

Im not sure if discussing the where’s William episode by Lia Harris is allowed. I was listening to it again and I find this strange. This is the direct quotes from the FFC and MFC about about why the FFC automatically believed William was kidnapped..

FFC: so what made me think that he was snatched, that somebody had taken him? Was that the fact that I couldn’t see him going into the bush. I couldn’t see him running down the slope to that, to the street. I, it was just..

MFC: nup, he wouldn’t do it, he wouldn’t do it

FFC: I actually, I don’t have the words to describe what it was like standing there looking out and thinking, why is he not here, I don’t understand this. But it’s the only……somebody was there.

So according to both, William wouldn’t go down to the road But they are sure he’s still been kidnapped (snatched, taken)? This goes with the MFC stating in the police run through that William “wasn’t a wanderer”.

So not only was someone waiting on purpose or just coming past by happenstance, but they believe because William wouldn’t have gone down to the road or the bush, so the kidnapper must have made their way up quite close to the house? That Seems quite far fetched imo.

The part I referenced is from Ep 3: One Last Roar, around 5:40

I think I relate to what FFC is saying. The brain says one thing and the eyes say another, it's almost an out-of-body experience.

 

[JBowie]

When you think about it like that, nobody has been cleared - not BS not PS or any others. IMO

Bill Spedding's alibis have been proven. He has the receipt from the cafe and witnesses gave testimony at the inquest that they saw him at the school event.

 

[KateM]

I haven't watched the long version of FGM walk through, as has been mentioned here, did she mention that she asked him to pick up a paper?

I'm assuming the FGM bought food in for the Foster's and kids visit?

 

[KateM]

Im not sure if discussing the where’s William episode by Lia Harris is allowed. I was listening to it again and I find this strange. This is the direct quotes from the FFC and MFC about about why the FFC automatically believed William was kidnapped..

FFC: so what made me think that he was snatched, that somebody had taken him? Was that the fact that I couldn’t see him going into the bush. I couldn’t see him running down the slope to that, to the street. I, it was just..

MFC: nup, he wouldn’t do it, he wouldn’t do it

FFC: I actually, I don’t have the words to describe what it was like standing there looking out and thinking, why is he not here, I don’t understand this. But it’s the only……somebody was there.

So according to both, William wouldn’t go down to the road But they are sure he’s still been kidnapped (snatched, taken)? This goes with the MFC stating in the police run through that William “wasn’t a wanderer”.

So not only was someone waiting on purpose or just coming past by happenstance, but they believe because William wouldn’t have gone down to the road or the bush, so the kidnapper must have made their way up quite close to the house? That Seems quite far fetched imo.

The part I referenced is from Ep 3: One Last Roar, around 5:40

I've never heard anyone describe events like the FFC. It's very weird, almost like she's reading her diary entries.

 

[KateM]

IMO - I think their feelings/thoughts were influenced because of the fact William was hidden/stolen before by the Bio's, I don't think Bio's had anything to do with this, but I think it would have played on the FF minds at the time of Williams disappearance. If you know it's happened before, you would think it could happen again.

Maybe that's what gave them the idea...

 

[JBowie]

Im not sure if discussing the where’s William episode by Lia Harris is allowed. I was listening to it again and I find this strange. This is the direct quotes from the FFC and MFC about about why the FFC automatically believed William was kidnapped..

FFC: so what made me think that he was snatched, that somebody had taken him? Was that the fact that I couldn’t see him going into the bush. I couldn’t see him running down the slope to that, to the street. I, it was just..

MFC: nup, he wouldn’t do it, he wouldn’t do it

I have a lot of difficulty with this (among other things). William is varioulsy described as being 'full of beans' and 'jumping out of his skul'l on the morning in question, and yet he wouldn't run down a slope? Come on!

 

[SouthAussie]

Bill Spedding's alibis have been proven. He has the receipt from the cafe and witnesses gave testimony at the inquest that they saw him at the school event.

I think that what we are saying is that there is no Coronial conclusion about that yet. (Although it is probably coming.)

Just because his lawyer stood in Coroners Court and gave him his alibi doesn't mean that we know the Coroner's findings about that. His lawyer was doing his job.

We don't know the Coroner's conclusion about anyone. imo

 

[KateM]

I think that what we are saying is that there is no Coronial conclusion about that yet. (Although it is probably coming.)

Just because his lawyer stood in Coroners Court and gave him his alibi doesn't mean that we know the Coroner's findings about that. His lawyer was doing his job.

We don't know the Coroner's conclusion about anyone. imo

I think that what we are saying is that there is no Coronial conclusion about that yet. (Although it is probably coming.)

Just because his lawyer stood in Coroners Court and gave him his alibi doesn't mean that we know the Coroner's findings about that. His lawyer was doing his job.

We don't know the Coroner's conclusion about anyone. imo

Bill Spedding is still haunted after being outed as a William Tyrrell suspect, now he's waiting for a judge's verdict

He was outed and then cleared as a suspect in William Tyrrell's disappearance — now Bill Spedding is waiting to see if he has proved police maliciously prosecuted him during the investigation.

www.abc.net.au

 

[SouthAussie]

Bill Spedding is still haunted after being outed as a William Tyrrell suspect, now he's waiting for a judge's verdict

He was outed and then cleared as a suspect in William Tyrrell's disappearance — now Bill Spedding is waiting to see if he has proved police maliciously prosecuted him during the investigation.

www.abc.net.au

If he was conclusively cleared already, the Coroner sure wasted a lot of inquest time in putting him on the stand.