Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sep 2014 - #71

[Mauig’ma]

It wouldn't be so baffling if it was part of a covert police plan ... to secure search warrants for TJ & PB's cars.

In your opinion maybe. Still baffling to me. Sorry

 

[k-mac]

Reposting this:

Foster mother sole person of interest in William Tyrrell case

William Tyrrell’s foster mother is the sole person of interest in the police investigation of the missing boy. The NSW Police Commissioner confirmed on Ben Fordham Live investigators are looking at a person of interest in the case of the missing child. Police sources have told Ben Fordham the...

www.2gb.com

Fortunately for the Speddings their alibi build was accurate, proven and relevant to LE and they are getting on with their life.



NO matter how much a lot of folk want him to be a suspect...he isn't.

<modsnip>

 

[KateM]

Fortunately for the Speddings their alibi build was accurate, proven and relevant to LE and they are getting on with their life.



NO matter how much a lot of folk want him to be a suspect...he isn't.

Per yourpost Kate M....Neithor is anybody else.

If you have a link to say that the FM is not a POI, kindly post it.

 

[SLouTh]

We did think that one could possibly be a police officer's wife, who also ran a local shop. As we were not sure what shop the mystery man (who asked for directions to Batar Creek Road that morning) had visited.

Elizabeth Rowley gave evidence in the open inquest IIRC??? Mainly about FA ... what car he drove, and what he had tried to sell her etc....and other information

Antique dealer Elizabeth Rowley on Thursday said the former owner of a scrap metal business later approached her to speak about Abbott's past, telling her he may have "got off a murder" and he "may have been responsible for someone going missing before".
"Did Dooley tell you - based on those things and the timing of the trip to Tamworth - that it may be related to William's disappearance?" counsel assisting the coroner, Gerard Craddock SC, asked.
"Yes ... he wanted me to tell my husband," Ms Rowley replied, adding her husband was a police officer.

Tyrrell inquest told of 'dead human smell'

Frank Abbott said police were looking in the "wrong spot" for William Tyrrell and told locals he'd smelt...

www.begadistrictnews.com.au

Local antique dealer, Elizabeth Rowley, said Abbott used to come into her business trying to sell bits and pieces.

No Cookies | Daily Telegraph

No Cookies

www.dailytelegraph.com.au

Also from the same article
The inquest continues tomorrow with a police officer to give evidence alongside two women who are using pseudonyms.

 

[k-mac]

The FM is the POI, sorry.

yes sorry kate I meant only she is the POI. nobody else outside of her as per your post

 

[k-mac]

If you have a link to say that the FM is not a POI, kindly post it.

i was agreeing with you sorry for not being clear!

 

[SouthAussie]

Elizabeth Rowley gave evidence in the open inquest IIRC??? Mainly about FA ... what car he drove, and what he had tried to sell her etc....and other information

Antique dealer Elizabeth Rowley on Thursday said the former owner of a scrap metal business later approached her to speak about Abbott's past, telling her he may have "got off a murder" and he "may have been responsible for someone going missing before".
"Did Dooley tell you - based on those things and the timing of the trip to Tamworth - that it may be related to William's disappearance?" counsel assisting the coroner, Gerard Craddock SC, asked.
"Yes ... he wanted me to tell my husband," Ms Rowley replied, adding her husband was a police officer.

Tyrrell inquest told of 'dead human smell'

Frank Abbott said police were looking in the "wrong spot" for William Tyrrell and told locals he'd smelt...

www.begadistrictnews.com.au

Local antique dealer, Elizabeth Rowley, said Abbott used to come into her business trying to sell bits and pieces.

No Cookies | Daily Telegraph

No Cookies

www.dailytelegraph.com.au

Also from the same article
The inquest continues tomorrow with a police officer to give evidence alongside two women who are using pseudonyms.

I think one of the officer's wives worked in a cafe in Kew? imo
(Am looking for a link to substantiate that. If I find it, I will post it. At the moment it is just a vague memory.)

An acquaintance of Abbott and Porter's, Iris Northam, told the inquest that Porter had previously lived at the Kendall showground.
'Ray would often take Frank (Abbott) into Kew for a coffee,' she said.
'Sometimes Ray would drive Frank in from Heron's Creek and other times he would just meet him there.'

All eyes on 'dirty old man': Bombshell twist in William Tyrrell probe

When the inquest into Australia's best known missing child, William Tyrrell, resumes next week, many questions are expected to centre around one man - Frank Abbott.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[bearbear]

Maybe she was unwell. Maybe she was deemed a unreliable witness as they could prove her version of events that morning were not as it happened IMO ie when the MFC left etc. It was said many times thru the inquest ( by police as well ) that he left just before 9am.

Also he didn't sit & have breakfast with the rest , that was also said at the inquest, hence the FGM saying he was not there, he was preparing for his meeting, having had breakfast before the others from memory.

hopefully her health status was verified independently and not just accepted as perhaps suggested by the fcs?
she seemed very coherent in the walk through and any confusion would be understandable if what she had been told was different to her reality at the time

 

[SLouTh]

If you have a link to say that the FM is not a POI, kindly post it.

This is the only article that now refers to FM as a "former POI" ..... that I am aware of...

Although the foster mother was initially ruled out as a suspect, she became a person of interest for a period of time last year.

William Tyrrell's foster mother to plead not guilty to misleading crime commission

The 56-year-old is accused of giving false evidence during a hearing into the disappearance of William Tyrrell from his foster grandmother's home in 2014.

www.abc.net.au

 

[KateM]

This is the only article that now refers to FM as a "former POI" ..... that I am aware of...

Although the foster mother was initially ruled out as a suspect, she became a person of interest for a period of time last year.

William Tyrrell's foster mother to plead not guilty to misleading crime commission

The 56-year-old is accused of giving false evidence during a hearing into the disappearance of William Tyrrell from his foster grandmother's home in 2014.

www.abc.net.au

This has been discussed before. I think you'll find that the ABC was playing it safe by saying that. No other media source has said that the FM was a POI for a period of time last year. Until I hear differently from LE, she is still a current person of interest IMO.

 

[katydid23]

Yes, where did the idea that FGM had dementia come from? I’ve never been able to find it out.

The lady in the walkthrough did not appear either physically or mentally impaired. She seemed very well for her age.

She seems to have been a keen newspaper reader. Interested in the world and her community.

I don’t understand why her version of events was so readily dismissed. That aspects of her recount contradict that of the foster carers should have been a red flag.

I thought they were referring to her possibly suffering from dementia by the time the inquest came about.

 

[drsleuth]

I think one of the officer's wives worked in a cafe in Kew? imo
(Am looking for a link to substantiate that. If I find it, I will post it. At the moment it is just a vague memory.)

An acquaintance of Abbott and Porter's, Iris Northam, told the inquest that Porter had previously lived at the Kendall showground.
'Ray would often take Frank (Abbott) into Kew for a coffee,' she said.
'Sometimes Ray would drive Frank in from Heron's Creek and other times he would just meet him there.'

All eyes on 'dirty old man': Bombshell twist in William Tyrrell probe

When the inquest into Australia's best known missing child, William Tyrrell, resumes next week, many questions are expected to centre around one man - Frank Abbott.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I think you are thinking of ER SA, she had an antiques shop in Kew, where FA would try & sell stuff to her.

 

[SouthAussie]

hopefully her health status was verified independently and not just accepted as perhaps suggested by the fcs?
she seemed very coherent in the walk through and any confusion would be understandable if what she had been told was different to her reality at the time

I think if FGM was summoned, she would have had to ask the court herself (if she didn't want to/couldn't appear).

This is from the UK, but I think our rules our similar.

1. I have received a jury summons to attend coroner’s court, do I have to go? You should go unless you fall into the group who is automatically disqualified, or you apply to the coroner to be excused and he releases you from attending. If you don’t attend without reasonable excuse you can be fined.
2. I have received a summons to attend an inquest to give evidence, do I have to go? Yes unless you make representations why you can’t attend and the coroner revokes the summons.

https://www.inquestrepresentationservice.com/receiving-a-summons-to-attend-an-inquest/

 

[drsleuth]

I thought they were referring to her possibly suffering from dementia by the time the inquest came about.

Who knows Katy, I'm sure they had their reasons, maybe she was a closed court witness ?

 

[katydid23]

No they didn’t say “killers” but if William is deceased like le have stated then something had to have killed him. Maybe he got lost and succumbed to the elements. Or maybe someone killed him. Either way someone or something killed him. So I say killed. That’s my opinion. Not what le said. Just wanted to clarify my prior post. Sorry for the confusion. Imo moo

What about an accidental death? Could he have fallen from the balcony or down the stairs? Or gotten into FGM's medications or been hit by FD's car as he returned?

 

[katydid23]

I still wonder was GO & FA hanging out that morning? GO had phoned the FGM that morning. He was in Kendall.

FA has no alibi.........

They are still my main focus.

 

[SLouTh]

I think one of the officer's wives worked in a cafe in Kew? imo
(Am looking for a link to substantiate that. If I find it, I will post it. At the moment it is just a vague memory.)

An acquaintance of Abbott and Porter's, Iris Northam, told the inquest that Porter had previously lived at the Kendall showground.
'Ray would often take Frank (Abbott) into Kew for a coffee,' she said.
'Sometimes Ray would drive Frank in from Heron's Creek and other times he would just meet him there.'

All eyes on 'dirty old man': Bombshell twist in William Tyrrell probe

When the inquest into Australia's best known missing child, William Tyrrell, resumes next week, many questions are expected to centre around one man - Frank Abbott.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Someone from a takeaway did give evidence at the Inquest ...

The inquest separately heard that a worker at a takeaway shop where the man used to do repairs reported the elderly man making a 'strange' comment about William's whereabouts.

'Frank made a comment he thought they were searching in the wrong spot for William Tyrrell, which seemed like a very strange comment to make,' Dean Anderson told the court.

Bombshell revelations in missing William Tyrrell case

Convicted paedophile, 80, once had a son who died at the same age as William Tyrrell, with the key person of interest in the baffling case yet to provide police with an alibi.

www.dailymail.co.uk

There may be further info re the Kew Café in Jube's book ????
I seem to remember he had coffee there and read the paper.. and I think they supplied food for the Police IIRC?????

 

[katydid23]

Reposting this:

Foster mother sole person of interest in William Tyrrell case

William Tyrrell’s foster mother is the sole person of interest in the police investigation of the missing boy. The NSW Police Commissioner confirmed on Ben Fordham Live investigators are looking at a person of interest in the case of the missing child. Police sources have told Ben Fordham the...

www.2gb.com

That article is from 7 months ago though.

 

[Wexford]

Dont forget BS had a little figurine of spiderman in his van.


SO. he MUST have done it.

Personally, I always found that a little too convenient. Someone within or close to his family tried very hard to get LE to look at him from the get go. I think it was planted by that person or persons.

 

[drsleuth]

This has been discussed before. I think you'll find that the ABC was playing it safe by saying that. No other media source has said that the FM was a POI for a period of time last year. Until I hear differently from LE, she is still a current person of interest IMO.

Lots of things have been discussed before over & over in the past 7yrs & 10 months

Or it's correct. Usually reporters have an inside scoop & drop hints in their articles IMO

It seems some people pick & choose what they want to believe from different media reports, which is their right

I'd believe anything posted by the ABC over the daily mail any day