Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #26

[louisepiglet]

My thoughts today...

What are the chances that this filthy pedo creep was supposed to be at the very house a 5 yr went missing and he had nothing to do with it.

Pigs arse!

My thoughts are what are the chances a person with connections to the biological family of a foster child who was supposed to be at the house where this child was visiting not having anything to do with his abduction.
Pigs arse

 

[louisepiglet]

So local rumors are to believed over what is said in MSM. Websleuths does not run on rumors.

Unfortunately sometimes local rumours are more correct that what appears in MSM. I decided long ago to take ANYTHING I read in MSM with a grain of salt.

 

[sosocurious]

Would he have had to obtain bail in relation to the Victorian charges? What happens if you have to attend a hearing in one state and the court of another state doesn't want you out on bail? Might there have been some arrangement for him to be in custody in NSW on account of the Victorian matter?

Police charged him on summons earlier this month.
On Thursday, the magistrate excused Spedding, who lives in regional NSW, from appearing in person.
In unsuccessfully applying for the Ballarat magistrate court hearing to be suppressed,......

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-...l-spedding-will-try-to-stop-nsw-trial/7669984

Arrest entails a person being taken (forcibly if necessary) by police to a watch-house and formally charged at that point.

Summons allows police to formally put a charge in writing, and after having sworn it on oath before a justice of the peace, serve the document on a defendant. The defendant then has to appear in the local Magistrates Court usually about 3 to 4 weeks later.

Bail can be granted by police at the watch-house if a person is arrested, or by the magistrate when a person first appears in court on a summons or notice to appear (or if bail has been refused by the police following arrest)

https://bosscherlawyers.com/arrest-bail-court/

 

[sleepinoz]

Unfortunately sometimes local rumours are more correct that what appears in MSM. I decided long ago to take ANYTHING I read in MSM with a grain of salt.

Unfortunately local, or any other, rumors aren't allowed here on Websleuths.

MSM aren't always correct, but they're all we have.

 

[bearbear]

maybe william is still alive and thats why no one has come forward to claim the reward,
maybe hes with bio family and no money in the world would make them give him back?

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

maybe william is still alive and thats why no one has come forward to claim the reward,
maybe hes with bio family and no money in the world would make them give him back?

I for one, would love that to be the case, bearbear. Although, a despicable act taking him away from his foster family, I'd prefer it over William being taken by a Pedo anyday.

 

[frogwell]

It will be so interesting to see what evidence they have from over 30 years ago. Used to be so difficult to get any type of historical child sexual assault conviction, now the police have got evidence in 2 states from 30 years ago, I don't think DNA though, enough to go with prosecution. Extaordinary. Amazing what police can find when motivated.

 

[JLZ]

maybe william is still alive and thats why no one has come forward to claim the reward,
maybe hes with bio family and no money in the world would make them give him back?

I can't believe the police would be so incompetent.

 

[SouthAussie]

maybe william is still alive and thats why no one has come forward to claim the reward,
maybe hes with bio family and no money in the world would make them give him back?

We have researched several times and found how very, very, very few rewards are ever claimed for major crimes. Even the big million dollar rewards.

 

[nat198]

We have researched several times and found how very, very, very few rewards are ever claimed for major crimes. Even the big million dollar rewards.

I was talking about that a few days ago with hubby. We were both wondering how many rewards are actually claimed/given out. I've never heard of one being claimed before.

 

[JLZ]

I was talking about that a few days ago with hubby. We were both wondering how many rewards are actually claimed/given out. I've never heard of one being claimed before.

I read an article, I think it was a few years back, which said that of rewards that were paid, most went to police officers. It wasn't just speculation; somebody had researched it, might have been in Victoria.

 

[bearbear]

i know, i also fear the worst for little william, was just having a moment of wishful thinking,
i dont think he will ever be found

 

[Wexford]

My thoughts are what are the chances a person with connections to the biological family of a foster child who was supposed to be at the house where this child was visiting not having anything to do with his abduction.
Pigs arse

Unluckiest washing machine repairman in the world.

 

[ozazure]

This case has been nothing but hard slog for the police. Bill Spedding was identified immediately and despite all the searches and investigation, painfully slow historic charges are the furthest they've got. All the early leads like the man asking for directions and the couple in the caravan park seem to have come to naught. Uncovered a tangled social web which might hold some answers. The investigators need a lucky break now, something found, someone to reveal something pertinent.

 

[SouthAussie]

I think the police may be halfway content if they can at least get the person at the top of their list put away for a long time, even if it is for historical charges. Their primary POI may then sit out the rest of his years in prison. I truly think that they know what has happened to William, but are unable to appease a prosecutor due to the incomplete nature of the evidence.

I recall John Chardon being the obvious-but-unsaid primary suspect in Novy's disappearance, and they searched and searched for Novy - still haven't found her to this day. So they changed tack, and were able to successfully prosecute Chardon for several child sex offences that had been lurking in the background for some years ... a good 15 years or so, iirc.

Chardon was locked away, which hypothetically may have kept his (Novy's) own two young children safe, and definitely will have kept their friends safer - as his now-adult children's (from a previous marriage) friends were his previous victims, years ago.

While locked away, police were finally able to pull the case together for Novy's murder, in a manner that suits the prosecutor. They have been able to charge Chardon with Novy's murder - 3 years after Novy's disappearance.

 

[Karo]

What connections does he have to biological family?

My thoughts are what are the chances a person with connections to the biological family of a foster child who was supposed to be at the house where this child was visiting not having anything to do with his abduction.
Pigs arse

 

[bearbear]

What connections does he have to biological family?

williams bio grandmothers friend kim loweke is one link and i think his bio parents are fb friends with bs and ms family....

Ms Loweke is living with Mr Jones’ brother-in-law and she personally knows Bill Spedding, another person who has been questioned by police in relation to the disappearance. Mr Spedding has released a video denying any involvement in the disappearance.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...t/news-story/295f4d26d06a4b543a3eec6d9d2f8953

 

[Karo]

I think that a lot of that is rumour, Loweke bought a washing machine from him years ago, is what I read, no connection has been established between bio's and BS that I can see or have seen, is there anything conclusive to show that is correct.

williams bio grandmothers friend kim loweke is one link and i think his bio parents are fb friends with bs and ms family....

Ms Loweke is living with Mr Jones’ brother-in-law and she personally knows Bill Spedding, another person who has been questioned by police in relation to the disappearance. Mr Spedding has released a video denying any involvement in the disappearance.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...t/news-story/295f4d26d06a4b543a3eec6d9d2f8953

 

[Hbayne]

I think that a lot of that is rumour, Loweke bought a washing machine from him years ago, is what I read, no connection has been established between bio's and BS that I can see or have seen, is there anything conclusive to show that is correct.

There is connections but probably nothing we are allowed to post here as it falls under the SM umbrella

 

[deugirtni]

This is a little confusing to me. It is not meaningful that the police have not cleared Spedding. And it is not meaningful that the police have cleared the FP.

So, presumably, if the police did clear Spedding ... that would not be meaningful either?


William Tyrell's family, who can't be identified for legal reasons, have been cleared of any involvement in his disappearance.
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2015/s4192949.htm

If someone is physically present during a crime, how do police clear that person? By believing what they say? Is that enough to clear? If someone is not physically present, and was somewhere else at the exact time, (the time of which happens to be known), but that person does not have an iron clad alibi, how is that person to be cleared? If police did clear Spedding, it would be because they know he has an iron clad alibi. If police clear the people who were present, how did they do so?

ETA edit to add.. in my opinion only, police are not able to definitively clear someone that doesn't have an iron clad alibi until the case is solved, a trial is completed, etc. (or a confession is obtained from the perp)