Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #28

[louisepiglet]

At 11am, the foster mother called the police. The start of many searches for little William, who would become a nationwide story, began.
At 4.30pm police knocked on Karlie and Brendan’s door.
“They arrested the pair of them. We were all suspects,” Natalie said.
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/pa...d/news-story/1a73063218a15527c703ad7d2136710e

so if nc is right maybe he wasnt in prison if they were both arrested on the day william went missing?

I wonder if they were "arrested" or just questioned. Wouldn't LE have to have a reason for arrest?

 

[sleepinoz]

I wonder if they were "arrested" or just questioned. Wouldn't LE have to have a reason for arrest?

I doubt they were arrested, taken in for questioning more likely. However, if there was any resistance at all they probably would have been handcuffed due to their history.

 

[Bohemian]

From what I can tell, NSW Police civilian Warrant cards are issued to retired Police Officers.


Chair of NSW Police Legacy Acting Inspector Paul Bousfield said traditionally when officers left the force they were asked to return their identification (their warrant card).


"The retired police officer's identification card is a wonderful initiative because it returns the identify of a former police officer back to them," Acting Inspector Bousfield said.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-03/nsw-police-to-give-former-officers-identity-cards/7686050

Well, that clears that up. Thanks sleep x

 

[sosocurious]

Lack of income, overseas holidays, people making money from interviews, quality of clothing, specified amounts spent on presents and court cases, a house sale. Has the cost of the home renovations been mentioned yet?

As soso said, sometimes I think I’m on another thread.

“He buys presents, has all his key rings hanging off his hat and he hoards clothes and stuff.

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/pa...d/news-story/1a73063218a15527c703ad7d2136710e

Mrs Collins said one of the charges her son faced related to shoplifting “children’s toys” and were a psychological “cry for help”.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/n...g/news-story/8e4b17549bd4a361e0df0f5b1a365069
William Tyrrell: Police suspect toddler’s kidnapper may not have acted alone

Ok so he buys and shoplifts children's toys.

So the key ring collection hanging off his hat. Where did they come from?
Were there keys attached originally?
imo

 

[Karinna]

From what I can tell, NSW Police civilian Warrant cards are issued to retired Police Officers.


Chair of NSW Police Legacy Acting Inspector Paul Bousfield said traditionally when officers left the force they were asked to return their identification (their warrant card).


"The retired police officer's identification card is a wonderful initiative because it returns the identify of a former police officer back to them," Acting Inspector Bousfield said.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-03/nsw-police-to-give-former-officers-identity-cards/7686050

LOL, How on earth would BC have one of those in his possession?

 

[Bohemian]

NSW Police Force
Code of Practice for CRIME (Custody, Rights, Investigation, Management and Evidence)

http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0007/108808/Code_of_Practice_for_Crime.pdf

 

[sosocurious]

From what I can tell, NSW Police civilian Warrant cards are issued to retired Police Officers.


Chair of NSW Police Legacy Acting Inspector Paul Bousfield said traditionally when officers left the force they were asked to return their identification (their warrant card).


"The retired police officer's identification card is a wonderful initiative because it returns the identify of a former police officer back to them," Acting Inspector Bousfield said.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-03/nsw-police-to-give-former-officers-identity-cards/7686050

Argh ... an ex police officer.

 

[louisepiglet]

“He buys presents, has all his key rings hanging off his hat and he hoards clothes and stuff.

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/pa...d/news-story/1a73063218a15527c703ad7d2136710e

Mrs Collins said one of the charges her son faced related to shoplifting “children’s toys” and were a psychological “cry for help”.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/n...g/news-story/8e4b17549bd4a361e0df0f5b1a365069
William Tyrrell: Police suspect toddler’s kidnapper may not have acted alone

Ok so he buys and shoplifts children's toys.

So the key ring collection hanging off his hat. Where did they come from?
Were there keys attached originally?
imo

What an odd thing to do.

 

[sosocurious]

What an odd thing to do.

:floorlaugh:

Yes I am trying to picture it.

 

[Karinna]

What an odd thing to do.

Yes drug addicts certainly are functioning on another planet, and are prone to doing very strange things.

 

[Karinna]

:floorlaugh:

Yes I am trying to picture it.

Must be a heavy hat,

 

[JLZ]

Must be a heavy hat,

It would keep the flies away.

 

[Karinna]

It would keep the flies away.

haha, like those hats with the corks hanging off them.

 

[Bohemian]

In all seriousness, if BC has a chronic MA dependency he may well be experiencing psychotic episodes and be exhibiting bizarre behaviours, as NC has reported. We’ve witnessed similar behaviours exhibited by the family member of another recent misper/homicide victim, albeit online.

 

[Karinna]

In all seriousness, if BC has a chronic MA dependency he may well be experiencing psychotic episodes and be exhibiting bizarre behaviours, as NC has reported. We’ve witnessed those effects in a family member of another recent misper/homicide victim, albeit online.

BBM, Yes definitely that would be a valid issue concerning BC. I remember an ad on t.v. too a while ago where the Australian govt. did that with the meth & ice problems in the country where a young man was off his head at the hospital and they were trying to restrain him to get him calmed down. It's a terrible problem out there and my son recently encountered a guy across the road from his work that was standing in the middle of a main road and yelling at cars threatening to kill people . The police apprehended him.

 

[Bohemian]

BBM, Yes definitely that would be a valid issue concerning BC. I remember an ad on t.v. too a while ago where the Australian govt. did that with the meth & ice problems in the country where a young man was off his head at the hospital and they were trying to restrain him to get him calmed down. It's a terrible problem out there and my son recently encountered a guy across the road from his work that was standing in the middle of a main road and yelling at cars threatening to kill people . The police apprehended him.

It’s a dangerous drug, that’s for sure.

‘High doses [of MA] may lead to aggressiveness, hostility and violent behaviour.

These effects vary from person to person, and are influenced by factors such as the person's weight, how much they have eaten, their general health, how much of the drug they have taken, and whether they have taken any other drugs.

Taking large quantities can intensify some of the effects. Heavy users may also experience effects such as:

• blurred vision
• tremors
• irregular breathing
• loss of coordination
• collapse.

The most serious effects of taking large quantities may include stroke, heart failure, seizures and excessively high body temperature.

Cardiac effects

Heavy methamphetamine use is associated with a range of chronic and acute cardiovascular problems including stroke, heart failure and seizures. Post-mortems of methamphetamine-related deaths of people in their 20s, 30s and 40s commonly reveal heart conditions more frequently associated with old age.’

Long term effects

Long term effects may include:

• agitation or aggression
• decreased motivation
• depression and anxiety
• poor concentration and memory
• psychotic symptoms such as paranoia and hallucinations
• disturbed sleep
• weight loss
• chest pains

METHAMPHETAMINE PSYCHOSIS

Methamphetamine use can induce psychosis with symptoms of paranoia and hallucinations, and can make people who have schizophrenia or other chronic psychotic symptoms worse.’

http://druginfo.sl.nsw.gov.au/drugs/a-to-z-of-drugs/ice-speed-other-methamphetamines

 

[they'll get you]

Isn't there a photo in the media? NC with a boarding pass ... off on a cruise maybe.
She really is obsessed with other people having money.
Makes me wonder if she once had access to some and that has dried up...jmo

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Tyrrells-grandmother-opens-disappearance.html



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[sosocurious]

It’s a dangerous drug, that’s for sure.

‘High doses [of MA] may lead to aggressiveness, hostility and violent behaviour.

These effects vary from person to person, and are influenced by factors such as the person's weight, how much they have eaten, their general health, how much of the drug they have taken, and whether they have taken any other drugs.

Taking large quantities can intensify some of the effects. Heavy users may also experience effects such as:

• blurred vision
• tremors
• irregular breathing
• loss of coordination
• collapse.

The most serious effects of taking large quantities may include stroke, heart failure, seizures and excessively high body temperature.

Cardiac effects

Heavy methamphetamine use is associated with a range of chronic and acute cardiovascular problems including stroke, heart failure and seizures. Post-mortems of methamphetamine-related deaths of people in their 20s, 30s and 40s commonly reveal heart conditions more frequently associated with old age.’

Long term effects

Long term effects may include:

• agitation or aggression
• decreased motivation
• depression and anxiety
• poor concentration and memory
• psychotic symptoms such as paranoia and hallucinations
• disturbed sleep
• weight loss
• chest pains

METHAMPHETAMINE PSYCHOSIS

Methamphetamine use can induce psychosis with symptoms of paranoia and hallucinations, and can make people who have schizophrenia or other chronic psychotic symptoms worse.’

http://druginfo.sl.nsw.gov.au/drugs/a-to-z-of-drugs/ice-speed-other-methamphetamines

And even serious issues such;

A brain aneurysm is a weakening in the wall of a brain artery that causes that wall to balloon or bulge abnormally. If an artery weakened in this manner bursts open inside the brain, it will trigger a life-threatening form of bleeding called an intracranial hemorrhage. A number of different types of aneurysms can appear at different locations inside the skull. Use of the illegal drug methamphetamine can potentially lead to the development of a form of brain aneurysm known as a berry aneurysm.

https://www.drugaddictiontreatment....ction/methamphetamine-use-and-brain-aneurysm/

 

[louisepiglet]

If what NC says in that interview is true then that means William has been taken and hidden away twice. What are the odds it would happen twice to the same child. I am wondering if BC has confessed to NC and she is trying to pave the way for Williams abduction being due to BCs mental state and drug use. IMO

 

[Bohemian]

If what NC says in that interview is true then that means William has been taken and hidden away twice. What are the odds it would happen twice to the same child. I am wondering if BC has confessed to NC and she is trying to pave the way for Williams abduction being due to BCs mental state and drug use. IMO

A reasonable theory, louise, as many cases of missing children abducted by non-custodial parents are reported in MSM. Although from the recent AIC research report on missing persons, it seems the more likely scenario was that William was the victim of an ‘acquaintance’ or ‘stranger’ abduction:

‘In New South Wales, 28 missing person reports from 2011 to 2015 (0.05% of all reports) [were] related to [child] abduction, although the ages of the victims were not specified. Of those, five were parental abductions and the remainder [of the] abductions [were] committed by a known (nonparent) or [an] unknown person.’

http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/current series/rr/rr008.html​

Also, and more importantly, during his most recent presser DCI Jubelin stated that he has ‘ruled out the foster carer parents and [he has] ruled out the biological parents as being involved in this investigation.’

(10:08)
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/e...e-of-William-Tyrrell-7-News-12-September-2017

I can’t think of a strategic reason for DCI Jubelin to make a statement such as this if BC was involved in William’s disappearance.