Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #29

[they'll get you]

If he has history BS what he's doing near a primary school in 2015?

What was he doing caring for foster children?


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[Bohemian]

What was he doing caring for foster children?


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That’s yet to be determined by the NSW Ombudsman. I posted the links about this back in this thread aways.

 

[Karinna]

The 1st point is a link to an artcle stating PB being seen driving a grey car at the time WT disappeared. The 2nd point are more examples of the the adjectives used by MSM to describe WT's abduction throughout the investigation without using an article with the bios in it. There are lots more articles that describe the abduction the same way. All I was trying to state was that it looks like the police have been stating all along, that anything that falls under the heading of abduction is a theory.imo

I agree and GJ has stated himself they have to look at all possible scenarios from a link i read upthread, and some are more plausible than others. Abduction is only one possible scenario i would think. Until the case is resolved nobody knows exactly what happened to WT and where he could be located. IMO.
If LE are any closer to knowing the vital information concerning WT they have certainly not let the public know at this stage of the investigation.

 

[SouthAussie]

I believe the media and/or police are using the word ‘alleged’ (in regard to William’s abduction) in the same way they use ‘alleged’ for Spedding’s rape of a 3 year old and 6 year old, and another victim(s).

Nothing can be stated as “for sure” by the media until a perpetrator has been found guilty in a court of law, no matter what the evidence shows.

ACCUSED child rapist Bill Spedding repeatedly raped a three-year-old girl in a caravan in Campbelltown and farmed children out to fellow paedophiles, police allege.

According to the police facts tendered in Port Macquarie Local Court yesterday, the 63-year-old repairman and dole recipient is also accused of raping a six-year-old girl and sharing a bed with his two victims.

Spedding is alleged to have inflicted the abuse in April and May, 1987.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/la...s/news-story/887a1c586a521415424c505a5f0b0939

 

[Bohemian]

If you look at the recent case in the USA where there was two adults holding a whole group of younger people.

For someone to hide a small boy its entirely possible.

Do you have a link for that case, please?

BBM. I agree and it’s one of the options DCI Jubelin talked about here:

(11:53) R:

'Are the majority of those suspects sex offenders?'

(11:58) GJ:

'I think we need to keep an open mind in regards to this. There's an assumption right from the start, that a three year old child's been abducted that may, or may not, be the sexual predator. We're keeping an open mind to that. I can't break down specifically how many persons of interest are on the basis of suspicion attached to their sexual interests in children but I do want to stress this is a unique investigation. I'm very mindful that we've looked at all possibilities and I keep an open mind to it.

I hear stories from overseas of situations where children have disappeared for decades and the turned up in circumstances. I also hear stories of incidents have occurred that are by accident and been covered up and then revealed. So, we are keeping an open mind to it and our focus is not just on sex offenders or, let's break it down; paedophiles. We're not just looking at that aspect of it.

And we're also mindful that our research tells us that the child, at the age of three, doesn't necessarily fit into the parameters of childless couples where young babies have been abducted. It's that unique nature of this investigation that's making this particularly trying.'

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/e...-disappearance-of-William-Tyrrell-(continued)

 

[Bohemian]

@frogwell I am sorry that I was impolite. You don’t deserve to be treated like that. I have no excuse.

 

[they'll get you]

Wrong address I think.

Yes you are right foggy.


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[SouthAussie]

If you look at the recent case in the USA where there was two adults holding a whole group of younger people.

For someone to hide a small boy its entirely possible.

Yes, there have been at least several highly-publicised cases throughout the US, Europe and England where people have hidden a child for years and years and years. Typically, to subject them to all kinds of abuse.

 

[frogwell]

I believe the media and/or police are using the word ‘alleged’ (in regard to William’s abduction) in the same way they use ‘alleged’ for Spedding’s rape of a 3 year old and 6 year old, and another victim(s).

Nothing can be stated as “for sure” by the media until a perpetrator has been found guilty in a court of law, no matter what the evidence shows.


ACCUSED child rapist Bill Spedding repeatedly raped a three-year-old girl in a caravan in Campbelltown and farmed children out to fellow paedophiles, police allege.

I thought the difference between the word 'alleged" and "apparent" are quite different. I thought "alleged" means accused and "apparent" in regards to abduction means, what looks like an abduction. IMO

 

[Unit45]

13 siblings held captive -- how did no one else know?



https://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/16/us/california-turpin-family-what-we-know-dont-know/index.html

 

[they'll get you]

the forster mother stated (will look for it when I have a sec...cant back it up for certainty but I'm pretty sure) the trip to kendall was spontaneous.
so if forster grandpa new days before its not really spontaneous is it .
i cant back it up atm though. ill get back to it tonight.
there is so much contradiction everywhere. hard to decipher!

IIRC the only spontaneity was them leaving that night and not in that planned next day.

I can’t see it making any difference because BS was going to be there that same time anyway.


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[Karinna]

I thought the difference between the word 'alleged" and "apparent" are quite different. I thought "alleged" means accused and "apparent" in regards to abduction means, what looks like an abduction. IMO

From Mirriam Webster it means Accused but not proven or convicted.

 

[Karinna]

And i think "Apparent" means open to view, visible.

 

[Bohemian]

I believe the media and/or police are using the word ‘alleged’ (in regard to William’s abduction) in the same way they use ‘alleged’ for Spedding’s rape of a 3 year old and 6 year old, and another victim(s).

Nothing can be stated as “for sure” by the media until a perpetrator has been found guilty in a court of law, no matter what the evidence shows.

Roger that.

(And consider the other deleted).

 

[SouthAussie]

I thought the difference between the word 'alleged" and "apparent" are quite different. I thought "alleged" means accused and "apparent" in regards to abduction means, what looks like an abduction. IMO

Yes - oops, sorry - I was quoting the wrong word.

apparent

1. readily seen; exposed to sight; open to view; visible:
2. capable of being easily perceived or understood; plain or clear; obvious:
3. according to appearances, initial evidence, incomplete results, etc.; ostensible rather than actual:

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/apparent?s=t

 

[SouthAussie]

13 siblings held captive -- how did no one else know?



https://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/16/us/california-turpin-family-what-we-know-dont-know/index.html

We even have at least one case (and probably more) here in Australia - from 2015 - 300km north of Sydney.

Child 'locked in hidden Australia drug den'
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-35173310

 

[Bohemian]

13 siblings held captive -- how did no one else know?



https://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/16/us/california-turpin-family-what-we-know-dont-know/index.html

Thank you x

 

[frogwell]

We even have at least one case (and probably more) here in Australia - from 2015 - 300km north of Sydney.

Child 'locked in hidden Australia drug den'
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-35173310

Yes, this case caught my attention at the time because of its proximity to WT's disappearance. I'll see if I can find a more local article to name the location of where this occurred.

 

[Bohemian]

We even have at least one case (and probably more) here in Australia - from 2015 - 300km north of Sydney.

Child 'locked in hidden Australia drug den'
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-35173310

That’s the one that my heart stopped over, I think. I thought William had been found. Off to refresh my memory. Thank you x

 

[frogwell]

Yes, this case caught my attention at the time because of its proximity to WT's disappearance. I'll see if I can find a more local article to name the location of where this occurred.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3608396/the-underground-drug-den-and-the-boy-locked-in-a-shed/

The boy’s mother and fiance are facing a kidnapping charge as well as serious drug matters after police raided their Elands property last Friday and found an elaborate underground hydroponic cannabis set-up, as well as the child locked in the room.