Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #30

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Col knew that the police were asking about the historical allegations in their interviews. Police asked BS about the allegations and being in contact with one of the victims asked her to clarify it to the cops. No, I don't think it was wrong to ask for a statement if he hadn't done it and believed she didn't think he had done it either. I get the impression that he was unaware that she had made a statement/ allegation. so he was asked and police call it coaxing. MOO

I hear you questioning the police at every turn. Can I ask, do you think they are hanging someone out to dry? And if so, why?

I have only seen Jubes pursue justice vigorously, in other cases, and not try to pin things on people who are unworthy of that pursuit.

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I like the court talk SA. I always need to learn more.

Would MS be allowed into the closed court, considering she wasn’t around during this particular crime.
Wifey or guide dog privileges maybe. Woof woof.

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you & me both on the keen learner path it seems TGY .

similarly I wondered re MS attendance. It's 'closed' as a matter of fact due to 'crime against child/ren' & given that parents of said are permitted to attend in support, I'm thinking Wife Priveleges would exist for the perpretrator oops defendant. IMO ..
 
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The police have said nothing about BS historical charges except they are not related to William disappearance. As far as I can recall.

I think BS would be pleased that he has landed a judge only trial and closed court. Not easy to get it seems.
Maybe that is exactly why his family spoke so openly to the media in the beginning..... they had an idea what was coming, but we the public didn't.
After all his facs investigation into his treatment of children was happening by 9 Dec 2014, when the mother of one or all children was contacted by facs and the local Port MacQuarie detectives.
imo

After digging up his yard and raiding his business and picturing him driving past a police search site for a 3 year old missing boy that the nation is looking for. Why is it lucky to have a judge only trial? Must have had good grounds to show he wouldn't get a fair trial by his peers. MOO
 
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Where was spedding that horrible morning ?
 
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Where was spedding that horrible morning ?

That is a good question Hbayne. I think he was .... (and I think police "know so" from his phone pings and phone call history, and perhaps CCTV).


"You cross the railway line and follow the road between the empty swimming pool and the tennis courts, past the statue of bush poet Henry Kendall, who gave this place its name. Driving past old, pastel-coloured weatherboard houses — fashioned from planks of eucalypts felled by hand and hauled by bullocks through this valley — it feels as though you’ve travelled back in time. You don’t take much notice of the odd person strolling along the street and they don’t notice you — why would they, after all?

No one sees you, and if they did, it wouldn’t be remarkable; you’re just going about your business. The only sound is the chirruping of birds. Ahead, on your right, a grass slope rises steeply, unfenced, from the road. You notice a child in a Spider-Man costume. There’s no one else around. It’s 10.30am on Friday, September 12, 2014.

The way Jubelin sees it, you open the door and you put him in the car. Perhaps your first thought is to return him to his parents. Certainly, if anyone saw you now, you could say you were driving him to the police station in Laurieton, 15 minutes away. Instead of knocking on doors, you head back out past the showground. No one follows you.

You cross the Camden Haven River and nobody notices young William with the seatbelt over him. You bypass the police station in Laurieton and you just keep driving. By the time William’s mother calls 000 you are 30km away. There are tens of thousands of hectares of dense bushland between you and Kendall. William is strapped in beside you, dressed in his Spider-Man suit."

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/ne...sh-into-thin-air/story-e6frg6z6-1227308929078
 
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Col knew that the police were asking about the historical allegations in their interviews. Police asked BS about the allegations and being in contact with one of the victims asked her to clarify it to the cops. No, I don't think it was wrong to ask for a statement if he hadn't done it and believed she didn't think he had done it either. I get the impression that he was unaware that she had made a statement/ allegation. so he was asked and police call it coaxing. MOO

Col knew police were asking ... I assume you think BS told him.
Why did Col jump in and tell the media?
I get the impression BS may have asked because he was concerned she would make a statement...moo
 
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After digging up his yard and raiding his business and picturing him driving past a police search site for a 3 year old missing boy that the nation is looking for. Why is it lucky to have a judge only trial? Must have had good grounds to show he wouldn't get a fair trial by his peers. MOO

Well for one thing the media are not reporting every detail.
 
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After digging up his yard and raiding his business and picturing him driving past a police search site for a 3 year old missing boy that the nation is looking for. Why is it lucky to have a judge only trial? Must have had good grounds to show he wouldn't get a fair trial by his peers. MOO

BBM

That is one thing that you and I can agree on. :)

A judge-only trial is warranted in this situation. imo

And it lessens any chance of any appeals.
 
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No ill will against the Wilsons but why does this grate on my mind.


Judy Wilson, whose fence sits just 10m from where William was taken, heard him and his sister playing earlier that morning before she headed into town to run some errands.

When she returned, the street was in chaos.

“I wasn’t home and my husband wasn’t home. The only thing I was able to tell police was that I heard the children playing but didn’t see them … I just heard kids laughing and you could tell they were little children,” Mrs Wilson said.

“I don’t think it was an opportunistic grab from someone who just happened to be here *because we don’t get strangers wandering around.”

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/n...r/news-story/03fb14d003bfb73d3c193b5f6731f74c


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Yep, there has always been a niggle with me when I heard her comments.

As its been reported - She went off shopping. Did hubby go too ? As I don't recall any comment to the fact that ' we both went shopping' ...

It's this comment that's always sounded strange IMO "I wasn’t home and my husband wasn’t home" ..

huh ? Wordsmith 🤔 me would babble something like ' xx went to golf at 7am & I heard the kids were next door. It was around ?? When I left to go shopping ..bla bla ...

This is just me rambling ... I don't have any clue if Mr went to golf or where he was, but apparently HE WASN'T HOME ...

have we heard anything from him?
 
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After digging up his yard and raiding his business and picturing him driving past a police search site for a 3 year old missing boy that the nation is looking for. Why is it lucky to have a judge only trial? Must have had good grounds to show he wouldn't get a fair trial by his peers. MOO

Maybe not...:dunno:

If both the prosecution and accused agree, the court must make a ‘trial by judge order’.But if only the prosecutor requests the order, the court cannot order a judge-alone trial.
If only the accused requests a judge-alone, the court can order such a trial if it is in the interests of justice to do so.
The court may refuse to make an order if the trial will make a factual finding that has to do with community standards,.
However, it is more likely that a judge-alone trial will be ordered if the case involves complex laws that a jury may not be able to comprehend.
Media coverage of a person’s case may also mean that it is in the interests of justice for the court to order a judge-alone trial.
However, as Justice McCallum once stated, the “interests of justice are not to be confused with the interests of the accused.”

https://nswcourts.com.au/articles/judge-or-jury-which-would-you-choose/
 
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Hold that third straw will ya, guys? I have great room service here. Have also met some other mighty interesting guests. Off for a while now. You know how it is. Places to see, people to annoy. See you soon.

Have fun Boho, will miss your insightful comments.

Hopefully this little man will be located by time of your return 🙏
 
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That is a good question Hbayne. I think he was .... (and I think police "know so" from his phone pings and phone call history, and perhaps CCTV).


"You cross the railway line and follow the road between the empty swimming pool and the tennis courts, past the statue of bush poet Henry Kendall, who gave this place its name. Driving past old, pastel-coloured weatherboard houses — fashioned from planks of eucalypts felled by hand and hauled by bullocks through this valley — it feels as though you’ve travelled back in time. You don’t take much notice of the odd person strolling along the street and they don’t notice you — why would they, after all?

No one sees you, and if they did, it wouldn’t be remarkable; you’re just going about your business. The only sound is the chirruping of birds. Ahead, on your right, a grass slope rises steeply, unfenced, from the road. You notice a child in a Spider-Man costume. There’s no one else around. It’s 10.30am on Friday, September 12, 2014.

The way Jubelin sees it, you open the door and you put him in the car. Perhaps your first thought is to return him to his parents. Certainly, if anyone saw you now, you could say you were driving him to the police station in Laurieton, 15 minutes away. Instead of knocking on doors, you head back out past the showground. No one follows you.

You cross the Camden Haven River and nobody notices young William with the seatbelt over him. You bypass the police station in Laurieton and you just keep driving. By the time William’s mother calls 000 you are 30km away. There are tens of thousands of hectares of dense bushland between you and Kendall. William is strapped in beside you, dressed in his Spider-Man suit."

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/ne...sh-into-thin-air/story-e6frg6z6-1227308929078

So why are thousands of taxpayers dollars being spent on staff and chasing 600 odd POI's and we are 3 years further down the track?
 
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IMO i have thought if someone grabbed WT they would of had to of been in very close proximity to see all that was going on there. And wasn't FM out there earlier with WT when he was up the tree? If someone was waiting & watching them, they would of seen an adult was supervising the child, so what would make them think WT would be out there all by himself out of sight of any adult for them to get him?
 
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Spedding can’t account with any witnesses his whereabouts that morning , contradictions , school awards,coffee shop ect.He seems imo to have lied and lied and lied . For what reason ?
 
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So why are thousands of taxpayers dollars being spent on staff and chasing 600 odd POI's?

I have wondered a few times about the 100's of POI's in this case for one incident. That's an awful lot of POI's IMO.
 
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So if Spedding was repairing a washing machine in Dunbogan shortly after William went missing, as stated in the MSM article i just posted up, i would think whoever's washing machine he repaired would also have been questioned by LE to verify that story?
 
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So why are thousands of taxpayers dollars being spent on staff and chasing 600 odd POI's and we are 3 years further down the track?

Because they are thorough? And they are leaving no stone unturned? And because they need Margaret to help break those alibis, leaving no measure of reasonable doubt - so that a prosecutor will go ahead and try the case?

For me, it is all about eliminating reasonable doubt ... and getting that last piece of evidence/testimony.

I guess you decided not to respond to my question asking if you think the police are hanging someone out to dry. That is okay, that is your prerogative.


"Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin, Strike Force Rosann and the NSW Police Force are leaving no stone unturned in their search for little William. Now there is 1 Million reasons for the somebody who knows something to make the call!
Please contact Crime Stoppers now. #MakeTheCall #1MillionReasons"

https://www.facebook.com/whereswilliam/posts/1808516399384632
 
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BBM Yes. It was how things were at the time.

In reverse, does anyone think that so many historical cases from that time period would have come to light now and in recent years, if the courts/police were aggressively prosecuting these types of cases back then?

Considering the injuries I’m finding it hard to believe a paedophile has lived a life for 30 years Scott free.

I guess it was a different time back then but, again, consider those injuries. I find it appalling that LE, medical and parent could turn a blind eye to these young innocents.

What would be the mindset? What, they are young, they’ll get over it and forget it happened. Surely the long term injuries mentally, physically and emotionally would last a lifetime.
I’d want heads to roll.

I’d have his nuts as a purse.


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