Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #34

[ak19861981]

Thinking along the same lines SA. Feel they are actually close for the first time.. Lets hope all the hard work pays off and the answer is found. So sad for William and his family and equally disgusted that there is a horrendous human being or beings out there capable of harming a child and taking away any future he had. They need to be caught and locked away to protect others asap.

Are there historic cases that have followed a similar path to this? I am trying to predict where to next. Seems the MSM is putting pressure on, much like with Karen Ristevski’s case recently. I can’t for a second believe they aren’t close

 

[SouthAussie]

If you click on this Google Earth image to enlarge it, you will see what 3sq km looks like.

Of course, we dont know exactly where the 3sq km are, or if they are even a single block, or several smaller blocks that total 3sq km.

But that it is a fair whack of land they are searching. And there is a pretty solid chance that a little one, with hundreds of people searching for him within a very short period of time, would not have strayed out of that kind of area without being found or seen by one of those hundreds of searchers.

 

[Bohemian]

I swear I only made the reference to being older to outline that we never know who we are speaking to when we are online and criticizing people! Tone is lost and people build an image in their mind of who they’re taking to in order to justify being a little less kind to strangers on the net

Oh hon, I didn’t take offence.

 

[they'll get you]

Oh for heaven's sake. Many of us who have been here since Day 1 have shared our light-hearted collective crush on GJ in the past. Humour in the darkest hours has a very beneficial human place. Bo was absolutely in no way minimising the tragedy of William. For the record, I'm happily married but would welcome GJ's shoes under my bed anytime. Humour. Take that as you will.

I’ll get T/O if I dare say what I’d like to say to that.

 

[Bohemian]

If you click on this Google Earth image to enlarge it, you will see what 3sq km looks like.

Of course, we dont know exactly where the 3sq km are, or if they are even a single block, or several smaller blocks that total 3sq km.

But that it is a fair whack of land they are searching. And there is a a pretty solid chance that a little one, with hundreds of people searching for him within a very short period of time, would not have strayed out of that kind of area without being found or seen by one of those hundreds of searchers.

If the red outline was moved a little more up and to the left, the area would roughly encompass the bushland bordering Benaroon Drive. You’re right, given the number of searchers and the terrain, I find it hard to believe if William became lost, he wouldn’t be spotted — unless he hid or someone concealed him — especially whilst wearing his red and blue Spiderman outfit. Which leads me to wonder what if no trace of William is found? More searches, an inquest or arrest(s)?

 

[ParaK]

Same Bo

A specific property that is three square kilometres is the main area of focus for NSW police.

The operation will be co-ordinated by approximately 50 search experts from NSW Police's public order and riot squad.

Police return to initial William Tyrrell search area with new focus

Hmmm hadn't noticed that specific property stated before. Looks like they've been in forest area, roads and yards surrounding houses though so seem like more than a specific property. All other reports just state area though. could be.

 

[they'll get you]

Who's door will the team knock on tgy?
Sit down chat or just cuff em'?

On a clip it was said in an inquest there are tougher rules on answering. Maybe the one with Mr Morcombe speaking.

Yes I wanna see BS on the stand and tell where he was EXACTLY that morning and bloody well prove it.

 

[Bohemian]

Same Bo

A specific property that is three square kilometres is the main area of focus for NSW police.

The operation will be co-ordinated by approximately 50 search experts from NSW Police's public order and riot squad.

Police return to initial William Tyrrell search area with new focus

I hadn’t read that article before. Maybe a turn of phrase?

 

[ak19861981]

If the red outline was moved a little more up and to the left, the area would roughly encompass the bushland bordering Benaroon Drive. You’re right, given the number of searchers and the terrain, I find it hard to believe if William became lost, he wouldn’t be spotted — unless he hid or someone concealed him — especially whilst wearing his red and blue Spiderman outfit. Which leads me to wonder what if no trace of William is found? More searches, an inquest or arrest(s)?

And in between official searches, surely a small township like Kendall you would find plenty of locals who go out and try to look for themselves?
I am trying to piece together an image of this place. I come from a small town full of ex cons and seemingly many paedophiles - though who would know what’s a normal number of these types of individuals in a population. But it wouldn’t be the kind of place you’d ever hear of an opportunistic abduction. Too many recognizable faces, too easy to see when something doesn’t follow the routine - small towns I have lived in are very predictable places. Naive thinking maybe but I know that once one person knows something the whole town knows.
Then again, maybe not if a paedophile ring is involved because those seem to operate in a way that remains so secret and so unknown to all of us. It’s all so haunting.

 

[SouthAussie]

Same Bo

A specific property that is three square kilometres is the main area of focus for NSW police.

The operation will be co-ordinated by approximately 50 search experts from NSW Police's public order and riot squad.

Police return to initial William Tyrrell search area with new focus

I would say that the specific property is the land that Kendall Forest sits on. If you look at the forest by Benaroon Drive, it looks about as big as the 3sq km box I drew on the Google Earth map.

I suspect Benaroon Drive development was carved out of a bit of the forest, as well as perhaps the cleared land to the north of Benaroon Drive.
So, they may be considered to be part of that specific property ... by the planning people that are assisting the investigation.

 

[they'll get you]

I don’t know about you, soso, but I’m looking forward to another one of tgy’s nudie runs. At least it will be a bit warmer in September.

It will be the best yet.

 

[sosocurious]

Hmmm hadn't noticed that specific property stated before. Looks like they've been in forest area, roads and yards surrounding houses though so seem like more than a specific property. All other reports just state area though. could be.

Agree Para

Up the track and close to a homes.
1:01 of the video, I would hate to live that close to the thick scrub.
Snakes .... scary.

 

[they'll get you]

I don’t know who tgy will invite. Probably just Jubes, knowing her.

Prime witness.

 

[Bohemian]

And in between official searches, surely a small township like Kendall you would find plenty of locals who go out and try to look for themselves?
I am trying to piece together an image of this place. I come from a small town full of ex cons and seemingly many paedophiles - though who would know what’s a normal number of these types of individuals in a population. But it wouldn’t be the kind of place you’d ever hear of an opportunistic abduction. Too many recognizable faces, too easy to see when something doesn’t follow the routine - small towns I have lived in are very predictable places. Naive thinking maybe but I know that once one person knows something the whole town knows.
Then again, maybe not if a paedophile ring is involved because those seem to operate in a way that remains so secret and so unknown to all of us. It’s all so haunting.

I suppose sometimes the predictable can be the thing that doesn’t seem significant. The postie delivers the post, cars come and go, someone is in the place they usually are. Nothing remarkable — that is until cross-referenced using a database, a thought niggles someone enough to make a phone call, something is seen/heard/found/remembered at a later date. Whatever, someone knows something and I think DCI Jubelin knows that they know. I don’t think (or sincerely believe) that the circumstances surrounding William’s disappearance and his abductor will remain a secret forever.

 

[they'll get you]

Here it is (thumbnail above)

Don’t worry guys I knew all the time. As Jubes says “I just want to make the perp sweat”.
She could be in jail already by now.

 

[ak19861981]

Apologies if this has been covered or if I am being naive but going back over MSM articles a couple of years ago and the fact that they honed in on a ring of individuals.
My question is: what constitutes a ring? There were 3 known paedophiles in a support group for grandparents as I understand. That’s all they’ve told the public.
I wonder if they know more about their actual activities between each other (meanwhile all members apparently all trying to pretend they aren’t as tight as what family and friends are saying) than what they would feed to media.
But the fact it’s publicized and the word “ring” mentioned is almost a “we know” to those perpetrators.

 

[they'll get you]

Yes, I am feeling much the same as you.

The Prosecutor knows that possible misadventure will be relied on heavily by any defence lawyer to spur reasonable doubt. I feel a big decision has been made, perhaps channeling some of that reward money to pay for all of this search resourcing, to completely rule out misadventure, to completely rule in human intervention .... so then all of the circumstantial evidence will build the strongest criminal case.

In the mean time, I have a feeling that the high risk POI(s) is/are being watched very carefully, so that they don't attempt a quick flit. I would think that if they have any intelligence at all, they will know that the gavel is soon going to drop.

Look at the lengths they went to in the Ristevski case. The car was seen on all possible routes, shops and down the bush track.
Just to prove every which way. They’ve got him behind bars.
I love love our hero boyz!

 

[ak19861981]

I suppose sometimes the predictable can be the thing that doesn’t seem significant. The postie delivers the post, cars cone and go, someone is in the place they usually are. Nothing remarkable — that is until cross-referenced using a database, a thought niggles someone enough to make a phone call, something is seen/heard/found/remembered at a later date. Whatever, someone knows something and I think DCI Jubelin knows that they know. I don’t think (or I sincerely hope) that the circumstances surrounding William’s disappearance and his abductor will remain a secret forever.

I really hope they’re only sitting on a small but crucial piece of evidence. I hope they know and the family feels confident they know what happened but it’s just one of those cases where they don’t want to screw up getting a long long sentence for whomever is responsible.

 

[they'll get you]

I don’t know who tgy will invite. Probably just Jubes, knowing her.

Mmmm I’ll be charged with indecent exposure, scaring women and making dogs howl.
Not a good idea.

 

[Bohemian]

Look at the lengths they went to in the Ristevski case. The car was seen on all possible routes, shops and down the bush track.
Just to prove every which way. They’ve got him behind bars.
I love love our hero boyz!

Bloody badge bunnies Seriously now, committed investigators, uniformed police and emergency services personnel, including volunteers, all deserve bloody medals for what they go through in the service of the public.