Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #39

[Thebottomline]

I havent forgotten that, or Jones' 90+ arrests.
He doesn't seem to be a nice person. I just personally haven't got him pegged for the crime of abducting William.

I haven’t dismissed him yet .I do wonder if he will he called up ?

 

[Thebottomline]

One anomoly that I noticed when comparing all of his media comments is .... he went uphill to search for William, yet he says that someone took William and took off down the road.
At what point did Mr Savage decide that William was taken down the road?


"I went uphill by myself looking for him"

“(But) somebody somehow managed to get him and disappeared down the road. I don’t know how it happened of course. He’s been taken to a place unknown."

What happened on the day William Tyrrell vanished?

That’s the line that bothers me- “I don’t know how it happened of course”

 

[SouthAussie]

That’s the line that bothers me- “I don’t know how it happened of course”

Could just be a dithery old line. He may be accustomed to knowing how most things happen on that street. He seems to be a very long term resident there. Knows a lot about things that have happened.

I cannot discount him as being a helpful witness. One who perhaps saw now-known vehicles on the street that morning, or other situational things that are useful to the police/Coroner.

We all know that Spedding is a major POI/suspect for more reasons than he was "supposed to/not supposed to" go to Benaroon Drive that morning. We just don't know all of the reasons.

 

[Thebottomline]

Could just be a dithery old line. He may be accustomed to knowing how most things happen on that street. He seems to be a very long term resident there. Knows a lot about things that have happened.

I cannot discount him as being a helpful witness. One who perhaps saw now-known vehicles on the street that morning, or other situational things that are useful to the police/Coroner.

We all know that Spedding is a major POI/suspect for more reasons than he was "supposed to/not supposed to" go to Benaroon Drive that morning. We just don't know all of the reasons.

Yes that’s right. I originally thought he was called up for something he may have seen that day ( such as spedding s vehicle) . He seemed eager to talk to the media when William went missing, just feeling we are seeing a very different side to him now, of course that could be the pressure he is under with the media making him crack or something else.

 

[Thebottomline]

Also I see the daily mail and ACA have stated PS is not a POI etc. would they know that for sure ? For all we know he could be one of those 5, until police say one way or the other

 

[they'll get you]

I'm reading this as some knew him and his sister. How are you reading this quote?
Anyone remember the article about a Christmas (street) party?

"Very few people around here knew him and his sister, not many of us, just two little kids visiting," Mr Savage told news.com.au.


The day William Tyrrell vanished

 

[SouthAussie]

I'm reading this as some knew him and his sister. How are you reading this quote?
Anyone remember the article about a Christmas (street) party?

"Very few people around here knew him and his sister, not many of us, just two little kids visiting," Mr Savage told news.com.au.


The day William Tyrrell vanished

That is the specific line that made me wonder if the Savages were neighbourly friends with grandma and her now-deceased hubby.

Then I thought that if that was the case, they could have assisted grandma with her lawn care arrangements and finding a repairman for the washing machine, while grandma was recovering from an illness (as she seems like a very capable lady otherwise, considering her far reaching community efforts).

 

[stormbird]

<snipped>The man is a named primary POI/suspect, one who has been requested to attend the first week of the inquest due to the level of importance of his potential involvement.
<snipped by stormbird>

Where was it said that BS "has been requested to attend the first week of the inquest" or that it would be "due to the level of importance of his potential involvement"?

The Local Court Bench Book says that persons of interest are usually called last, so they can respond to evidence given by other witnesses.

I don't know whether it's okay to post direct quotes from the Bench Book. The two paragraphs I paraphrased are under Coronial matters: [50-180] The Inquest - preliminaries, then scroll way down to What procedures are adopted in an inquest? to see the 10th and 11th paragraphs after that, starting with "Persons of interest".

 

[SouthAussie]

Where was it said that BS "has been requested to attend the first week of the inquest" or that it would be "due to the level of importance of his potential involvement"?

The Local Court Bench Book says that persons of interest are usually called last, so they can respond to evidence given by other witnesses.

I don't know whether it's okay to post direct quotes from the Bench Book. The two paragraphs I paraphrased are under Coronial matters: [50-180] The Inquest - preliminaries, then scroll way down to What procedures are adopted in an inquest? to see the 10th and 11th paragraphs after that, starting with "Persons of interest".

It was said in my post.

If I was quoting something, I would have added a link, as I am pretty sure most would have noticed is my general practise here.

The Directions Hearing was about prep for the first week of the inquest, was it not? To make sure all relevant parties for that week of the inquest were poised and ready.
And wouldn't you think that those attending the first week of the inquest were of high importance to the case? Particularly a named prime POI who was at the Directions Hearing, and has been called to attend, as per his own lawyer.

I think some natural, logical presumptions can be made here.

Here are some informative links .....

BBM
"The investigation is ongoing, and police are following active leads at present,"Counsel assisting the Coroner Gerald Craddock SC said at a directions hearing ahead of a March inquest into his disappearance on Wednesday morning.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...-tyrrell-s-disappearance-20181219-p50n5m.html

The Australian reported that the first high-profile suspect in the investigation remains “a person of interest” but there are also four other “high priority” suspects being looked at, with an inquest set to begin this year.
Following William’s disappearance, the man was identified as a prime suspect by police after they learned he had been at the home days earlier to quote on a washing machine repair and returned a week later to complete the job.
Police hone in on five suspects relating to William Tyrrell’s disappearance

 

[they'll get you]

DECEMBER 6, 2018

The mother of a man who has told friends he could be William Tyrrell’s real father has revealed she believes the missing toddler is “alive … in an Aboriginal community in the outback”.

Jacob Nichols, who was the boyfriend of Karlie Tyrrell in the year before the 2011 birth of the toddler, is helping Ms Tyrrell get over her trauma about missing William.

His mother Sue Nichols, a de facto mother-in-law to Karlie, told news.com.au she believed William was “alive” and “out there somewhere living in an Aboriginal community”.

“Karlie has suffered. I am very close to her. I feel for her,” Ms Nichols said.

“She needs help and my son is helping her.

“I think (William) is living in a community somewhere out there.

“There are little white faces among the Aboriginal kids in communities and I think he’s still alive and that’s where he is.

“I hope he is. If it was my grandchild, I’d be out on the road looking for him and if I found the person who took him I’d kill them.”
Mum of missing William Tyrrell’s ‘real dad’ says he’s ‘living in outback’

 

[sosocurious]

I wonder why it’s says published in 2017 ? Irrelevant I guess

Seems the same thing is published each year.
published 2018
View Heather Savage's Notice on camdencourier.com.au and share memories

 

[they'll get you]

I've never noticed this tangled web, my appologies if this has been sleuthed.


After a court sentencing on Tuesday, news.com.au asked Mr Nichols if he believed he was William’s real father.

“I think I’m going to cry. What do you want me to say?” he replied before his lawyer intervened.

Ms Nichols revealed she and Jacob would invite Karlie to spend time at their country NSW home, which Mr Nichols moved to after a violent domestic incident with a former partner.

“(Karlie and Jacob) are not together again but Karlie’s had a lot of trauma and I’m trying to convince her (to visit),” she said.
Mum of missing William Tyrrell’s ‘real dad’ says he’s ‘living in outback’

 

[Thebottomline]

DECEMBER 6, 2018

The mother of a man who has told friends he could be William Tyrrell’s real father has revealed she believes the missing toddler is “alive … in an Aboriginal community in the outback”.

Jacob Nichols, who was the boyfriend of Karlie Tyrrell in the year before the 2011 birth of the toddler, is helping Ms Tyrrell get over her trauma about missing William.

His mother Sue Nichols, a de facto mother-in-law to Karlie, told news.com.au she believed William was “alive” and “out there somewhere living in an Aboriginal community”.

“Karlie has suffered. I am very close to her. I feel for her,” Ms Nichols said.

“She needs help and my son is helping her.

“I think (William) is living in a community somewhere out there.

“There are little white faces among the Aboriginal kids in communities and I think he’s still alive and that’s where he is.

“I hope he is. If it was my grandchild, I’d be out on the road looking for him and if I found the person who took him I’d kill them.”
Mum of missing William Tyrrell’s ‘real dad’ says he’s ‘living in outback’

She needs to pipe down

 

[Bohemian]

I find it quite odd that so many people are turning on PS.
I see his comments as typical of a man his age, no one found his comments weird earlier, until it was announced he had to attend inquest.
I’m cutting him some slack at this point.
Where did the reporters ambush him, he must be pretty over the whole thing, even having to go to Sydney must be a big deal.

I think if you look back through the threads, I posted that I was leery of Savage a long time ago, so I personally haven’t ‘turned on’ him or thought his comments weird since it was announced he was to appear at William’s inquest.

FWIW, I’m not cutting anyone any slack, with the exception of William’s families, until the person responsible for William’s disappearance, and the someone [who] knows something, are brought to justice.

There must be good reason for reporters to doorstep Savage and be damned if he shouldn’t attend an inquest if he’s an interested person. There’s a young boy missing, probably murdered, and finding out what happened to him trumps anyone’s inconvenience in my book.

 

[sleepinoz]

Seems the same thing is published each year.
published 2018
View Heather Savage's Notice on camdencourier.com.au and share memories

It's a post "in memory" which some people do every year to remember their loved ones.

 

[Truthsleuth99]

Kinda inappropriate.

The man is a named primary POI/suspect, one who has been requested to attend the first week of the inquest due to the level of importance of his potential involvement.

If it turns out that he is the one who abducted and harmed William, I bet everyone will be ruing the day he was asked to attend grandma's house and fix her washing machine.

<modsnipped>

Couldn’t of said it better myself.

 

[frogwell]

I've never noticed this tangled web, my appologies if this has been sleuthed.


After a court sentencing on Tuesday, news.com.au asked Mr Nichols if he believed he was William’s real father.

“I think I’m going to cry. What do you want me to say?” he replied before his lawyer intervened.

Ms Nichols revealed she and Jacob would invite Karlie to spend time at their country NSW home, which Mr Nichols moved to after a violent domestic incident with a former partner.

“(Karlie and Jacob) are not together again but Karlie’s had a lot of trauma and I’m trying to convince her (to visit),” she said.
Mum of missing William Tyrrell’s ‘real dad’ says he’s ‘living in outback’

It's so random. I wondered if it was a mechanism to try to gain custody of WT, e.g., real biological father has had no knowledge of his relationship to this child, therefore FACS rulings are unlawful at this stage.... That is if he ever returns home alive... laying the groundwork so to speak....?

 

[Truthsleuth99]

I still think PS is just a crucial witness.
I couldn’t think of anything worse getting hounded by ACA - making look like I was a Suspect. Knowing I can’t discuss it. Would probably make me angry too.
There’s no evidence to suggest PS had anything to do with WT disappearance.
If we go off the dogs Scent.. there would be a trail to PS house - also there would be WT DNA all through the house...police would’ve of throughly examinated this theory!
My beliefs are everything still points to the main poi BS
He took him in he’s vehicle that day & unfortunately he went to a secluded area.
Where William still is to this day.

 

[Thebottomline]

I still think PS is just a crucial witness.
I couldn’t think of anything worse getting hounded by ACA - making look like I was a Suspect. Knowing I can’t discuss it. Would probably make me angry too.
There’s no evidence to suggest PS had anything to do with WT disappearance.
If we go off the dogs Scent.. there would be a trail to PS house - also there would be WT DNA all through the house...police would’ve of throughly examinated this theory!
My beliefs are everything still points to the main poi BS
He took him in he’s vehicle that day & unfortunately he went to a secluded area.
Where William still is to this day.

You would think so but I guess we don’t know who those other actual poi.s are ? Yes there is nothing to suggest he is a poi that we know of but on the flip side there is not a lot to suggest he is not if that makes sense.

 

[frogwell]

I still think PS is just a crucial witness.
I couldn’t think of anything worse getting hounded by ACA - making look like I was a Suspect. Knowing I can’t discuss it. Would probably make me angry too.
There’s no evidence to suggest PS had anything to do with WT disappearance.
If we go off the dogs Scent.. there would be a trail to PS house - also there would be WT DNA all through the house...police would’ve of throughly examinated this theory!
My beliefs are everything still points to the main poi BS
He took him in he’s vehicle that day & unfortunately he went to a secluded area.
Where William still is to this day.

Yes the main thing I think about is the sniffer dogs not picking up scent in any residence or vehicle. If WT was opportunistically picked up by PS, he would have had to have put WT somewhere out of the initial search zone without getting any scent on himself, his vehicle or property and be able to participate in the search at the same time. moo