Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #42

[purpleandgreen]

Who took you William? Where are you?

Time for someone or some people to come forward with the truth. You and your families deserve it.

 

[dragon52]

Who took you William? Where are you?

Time for someone or some people to come forward with the truth. You and your families deserve it.[/QUOTE

I so hope that we learn what happened to this poor child. But if we don’t I really hope that this case will throw some light on the Foster Care system and some good will come out of this case for other kids. IMO.

 

[dragon52]

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[purpleandgreen]

The foster system was not responsible for his abduction. Links are on previous page.

This thread is for William. It’s not about the foster system.

 

[dragon52]

The foster system was not responsible for his abduction. Links are on previous page.

This thread is for William. It’s not about the foster system.

Yes this thread is about William. Like everyone here, I hope and pray that we will find out what happened to him. However, if not, I hope that this case highlights the plight of many children and their families who are part of the foster care system. The system needs to change.

 

[purpleandgreen]

Yes this thread is about William. Like everyone here, I hope and pray that we will find out what happened to him. However, if not, I hope that this case highlights the plight of many children and their families who are part of the foster care system. The system needs to change.

Again. The foster system played no part in this. As far as we know. Let’s move on and focus on William.

 

[dragon52]

Again. The foster system played no part in this. As far as we know. Let’s move on and focus on William.

Curious purplegreen, what do you think happened to William? And how?

 

[purpleandgreen]

Curious purplegreen, what do you think happened to William? And how?

It’s not about me. It’s about William. He his my focus and my reason for being here.

 

[Thebottomline]

Oh please, why are you always on the attack? It states clearly on the podcast that 47,000 kids are removed from homes to go into Foster care homes - not always better homes and circumstances.

As for the Foster Care system being broken, I speak from experience. as a Social Worker with over 30 years of experience I have seen the best and the worse of the system. I have also seen the best and the worse of Foster carers who go into the system for the best and the worse of reasons unfortunately. I truly hope that at the end of this inquest, regardless of the outcome, the system will be looked into.

47,000 that’s a huge number. So sad but coroner has stated William is not missing due to being a foster child. FACS get such a bad wrap but do we expect more from then as we do from parents ? Chicken or the egg ?

 

[sleepinoz]

47,000 that’s a huge number. So sad but coroner has stated William is not missing due to being a foster child. FACS get such a bad wrap but do we expect more from then as we do from parents ? Chicken or the egg ?

Can someone please refresh my memory, was that NSW only or Australia wide?

ETA: the 47,000 I mean

 

[interested64]

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Agree. sleep. Why drag up all of the dirt again? Let them be. Unless there's an ulterior motif . IMO.[/QUO

I have previously worked in childrens homes.
They are farrrr from perfect, can have unqualified staff whom are totally out of there depth with caring for trauma affected c&yp...but it appears that is where the future of care is headed.

Not many people want to put there hands up to the mammoth responsibilty of caring for a child with traumatic histories, sometime with physical or emotional/mental health issues, plus go through the rigmarole of family visits/access and a casework questioning every decision or scrutinising choices.

It does appear that the "future" of OOHC will be back to an "institutionalised" model.

I wish we could focus more on intervening when the family is shown to be struggling... we are moving that way, but its a slowww process.

All IMO.

yes and if the Fosters get sued no one will do it...i for one wanted to but have changed my mind since this case

 

[Thebottomline]

Can someone please refresh my memory, was that NSW only or Australia wide?

ETA: the 47,000 I mean

Children in care
Not 47000 from my search

 

[sosocurious]

Yes this thread is about William. Like everyone here, I hope and pray that we will find out what happened to him. However, if not, I hope that this case highlights the plight of many children and their families who are part of the foster care system. The system needs to change.

This is an older article I cannot find anything newer to say it is not the case now.


While coroners are entitled to make statements or recommendations as part of their findings, those statements and recommendations should be made as a consequence of evidence that has been presented in the course of the inquiry. Considerable pressure is often exerted on coroners to make recommendations or to offer criticisms which are not really justified by the available evidence. The fact that coroners resist those pressures, where they feel it is not appropriate to comment beyond their formal finding, often causes disappointment as well as the occasional view that the system has in some way failed. However, the system has not failed, it has simply not met the perhaps unrealistic expectations placed on it

http://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/CICrimJust/1991/8.pdf

 

[sleepinoz]

Children in care
Not 47000 from my search

Even though that is 2016/17 it's way under 47,000 Australia wide.

 

[Thebottomline]

Even though that is 2016/17 it's way under 47,000 Australia wide.

Yes 30.000 under

 

[Thebottomline]

Facs is obviously flawed but so are the parents that come to their attention. Anyway not relevant here as the reasons William was removed didn’t contribute to his status as missing. Imo he was abducted and killed by someone who lived in that drive. Two worlds collided .

 

[dragon52]

Even though that is 2016/17 it's way under 47,000 Australia wide.

Where did you get the figures from? The podcast from the Australian states. 47.000

 

[sleepinoz]

Yes 30.000 under

I think this is where she collected her numbers. It's cumulative number of all children in care from 2013 to 2017 - so over a 4 year period.

It doesn't look like the facts match the stats. You would think a Jurno would check their facts, then again this is the reason that Rebel Wilson won her case, same Jurno.

 

[sleepinoz]

Where did you get the figures from? The podcast from the Australian states. 47.000

The link in Thebottomline's post.

 

[dragon52]

I think this is where she collected her numbers. It's cumulative number of all children in care from 2013 to 2017 - so over a 4 year period.

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It doesn't look like the facts match the stats. You would think a Jurno would check their facts, then again this is the reason that Rebel Wilson won her case, same Jurno.

I don’t think we can assume that this is where she got her stats. 30,000 out? That would be lying?... I am sure she got her stats from another source.....IMO.