Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #43

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I understand. But it seems the intensive investigation into Spedding had commenced before Jubes took over. Likely for good and valid reason (including the tip that a child's t-shirt was found lodged in Spedding's pipes ... what kind of t-shirt was it? The police knew exactly what kind of t-shirt William was wearing - a specific Spiderman one).

I can't imagine that Jubes recorded Savage the moment he started investigating him. He may have been investigating Savage for quite a while, before he ever recorded convos with him.

Jubes never would speak of POIs or the investigation. He said that many times.
Perhaps he had several suspects and the media just ran with whatever they could see and hear.
Perhaps Lambert was upset because he thought Jubes should leave Savage alone.
We just don't know, and may never know. imo (Unless Jubes writes a book about it all, one day :) ).

Plus we do not know if there is any connection to more than one person involved, We don't know if is a connection to BS and PS. That connection could be something as simple as BS also repaired PS washing machine at some point (no speculation).

I often wonder if PS is familiar with or knows of the cars in the street as well and he more a witness to something he may have seen however wont talk.
 
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Has everyone noticed that Savage has hired a solicitor AND a barrister to represent him at the inquest?
Having been away for a while, I have only just noticed that.


Mr Savage has retained a solicitor and a barrister and is expected to be called as a witness.
https://www.anglenews.com/gary-jube...-detective-cheered-as-enters-not-guilty-plea/

The basic difference between barristers and solicitors is that a barrister mainly defends people in court and a solicitor mainly performs legal work outside court. However, there are exceptions in both cases. ... They also have specialist knowledge of the law and so are often called on to give legal advice.
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Many barristers, for instance, charge between $1000 and $2000 a day. Senior barristers (QCs or SCs) can charge as much as $10,000 per day.
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William Tyrrell: Widower Paul Savage attracts questions at coronial inquest | Daily Mail Online


What I found interesting was the legal representation for PS that was listed. Not sure if this has changed since print in March.

Rebecca Dunlop - Criminal defence lawyer.

"Paul Savage was represented by barrister Chris McGorey, instructed by Rebecca Dunlop of Rebecca Dunlop Legal"

One of the Rebeccas specialties I find interesting

Coronial Inquests
We can provide advice and representation to persons of interest in coronial inquests.

Of course she specialises in many areas however this one from say I read it in March got me thinking more outside the square.

No speculation here, just again MSM and my opinion based on that.
 
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Sydney news: Remains of Stuart Dohrn found in Royal National Park, icy weekend breaks records - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

This is a multi - story article but it says that this week of the inquest is due to hear from the locals of Kendall...

Tyrrell inquest to hear from Kendall residents
The inquest into the 2014 disappearance of three-year-old William Tyrrell is this week expected to hear from residents of the mid-north coast town of Kendall, where he was last seen.

Police have investigated dozens of leads from the community, including reports of someone swapping gravestones in a local cemetery, but are no closer to confirming who took the toddler.

The inquest before Deputy State Coroner Harriet Grahame has heard William was probably driven away from the area in a car, possibly by a stranger.

Next week the inquest will move to Taree on the mid-north coast

Sydney news: Remains of Stuart Dohrn found in Royal National Park, icy weekend breaks records - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
 
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Plus we do not know if there is any connection to more than one person involved, We don't know if is a connection to BS and PS. That connection could be something as simple as BS also repaired PS washing machine at some point (no speculation).

I often wonder if PS is familiar with or knows of the cars in the street as well and he more a witness to something he may have seen however wont talk.
I definitely think Jubes would have a strong reason for speaking to PS, especially at 10.30 at night. I guess there is so much we do not know.

On a side note, as a parent of young children, I know that my recollection of time may not always be accurate.
Once my son stopped breathing and I called the ambos and what felt like a lifetime was not even a minute. And other times where I have thought it to be 2 minutes, was in fact 10.
So very reasonable to assume that little William might have been out of sight a bit longer than initially thought. Of course MOO.
Another thing that bugs me is the coincidence of the whole situation, with BS and his history, supposed to fix FGM washing machine, then his connection to TJ and BGM's friend. The fact that William was taken in a short window of time while MFC was away and just out of sight for a short time by FFC. Just boggles my mind. I always say sometimes the answer is so simple but we go around and around trying to find it.

Just hope he is found.

JMO MOO
 
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Lia Harris
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The William Tyrrell inquest will resume shortly with testimony from Sharon Starr, a service station attendant. Other witnesses today will be heard in a closed court, meaning we will not be able to hear their testimony.
 
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Lia Harris
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1mThe William Tyrrell inquest will resume shortly with testimony from Sharon Starr, a service station attendant. Other witnesses today will be heard in a closed court, meaning we will not be able to hear their testimony.
Darn sounds like another anticlimax day.
 
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Lia Harris
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The William Tyrrell inquest will resume shortly with testimony from Sharon Starr, a service station attendant. Other witnesses today will be heard in a closed court, meaning we will not be able to hear their testimony.
Bugger
 
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Lia Harris
@LiaJHarris

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The William Tyrrell inquest will resume shortly with testimony from Sharon Starr, a service station attendant. Other witnesses today will be heard in a closed court, meaning we will not be able to hear their testimony.
Oh boo. Pity :(
What time is the inquest meant to start?
 
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Question, PS was via audio/video at the first inquest stating he had no representation and was advised to get it. Am I right there?
Well if it was PS who took Jubes down for recording him then he must have had legal representation then.
Have I got the time-lines right?
Not quite. At the directions hearing in December PS was via audio and he'd applied for and been given "leave to appear" (to be represented at the inquest) but he hadn't quite organized it yet; apparently his solicitor was overseas or something. I believe it was all in place by March, solicitor plus barrister.
 
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I wander if PS as a local resident of Kendall is in court today
 
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Thinking about PS being missing for those two hours. I am wondering if this is new information to everyone (not just the general public). We know a lot of questions were asked previously at the first part of the inquest as to who saw him and what he was wearing and at what time.
I am thinking that maybe the story was not adding up and he was asked how he accounted for the time that no one saw him?
Oh that's right, I was lost in the bush for two hours?
 
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Thinking about PS being missing for those two hours. I am wondering if this is new information to everyone (not just the general public). We know a lot of questions were asked previously at the first part of the inquest as to who saw him and what he was wearing and at what time.
I am thinking that maybe the story was not adding up and he was asked how he accounted for the time that no one saw him?
Oh that's right, I was lost in the bush for two hours?
I was thinking along those lines. Has he changed his story . Was his recorded conversation different to official statement maybe ?
 
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Can someone explain why the testimony of these witnesses is closed? Will we get to hear it eventually?
 
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Lia Harris on Twitter
The coroner has suspended the inquest for the day following an application from the media challenging the planned closed court proceedings. It will resume tomorrow.
 
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Thinking about PS being missing for those two hours. I am wondering if this is new information to everyone (not just the general public). We know a lot of questions were asked previously at the first part of the inquest as to who saw him and what he was wearing and at what time.
I am thinking that maybe the story was not adding up and he was asked how he accounted for the time that no one saw him?
Oh that's right, I was lost in the bush for two hours?
PS missing for two hours . . . was possibly also the time of TJ's disputed alibi when he might have been driving in the forests in search of scrap metal. Am I remembering right that TJ told someone he was going to see "Paul", and it was assumed he meant PB? Any chance he meant PS?
 
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Lia Harris on Twitter
The coroner has suspended the inquest for the day following an application from the media challenging the planned closed court proceedings. It will resume tomorrow.

Interesting this, I wonder what the medias argument is.

Or what is being discussed today or other days in closed court.

From memory one MSM did see the witness list for proceedings and who was appearing (not sure if included dates) but I wonder if they are the ones challenging closed court due to who is appearing.
 
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