Australia Australia - William Tyrrell Disappeared While Playing in Yard - Kendall (NSW) 12 Sept 2014 #79

[BreakingNews]

What won’t be long? Can we let this child get on with her life without this sort of expectation and pressure?

I don't think William's sister would agree with you. She has said she wants to be a detective so she can find out what happened to her brother. She has been through hell. Not with just her brother missing, but all that the ex fosters put her through. She wants justice.

 

[LolaAngelina]

I don't think William's sister would agree with you. She has said she wants to be a detective so she can find out what happened to her brother. She has been through hell. Not with just her brother missing, but all that the ex fosters put her through. She wants justice.

Unless you know her personally you can’t speak on her behalf. I was simply stating my opinion that she has had a lot to deal with in her life and doesn’t need added pressure. I’m no interest in counting down to her 18th birthday in the hopes there will be some revelation. I only hope she can find some happiness and peace in her life.

 

[BreakingNews]

Unless you know her personally you can’t speak on her behalf. I was simply stating my opinion that she has had a lot to deal with in her life and doesn’t need added pressure. I’m no interest in counting down to her 18th birthday in the hopes there will be some revelation. I only hope she can find some happiness and peace in her life.

I was only going by what she said at the Inquest. And her braveness at telling her teacher about not wanting to return to the ex fosters, and why. That takes bravery. I doubt that her turning 18 would produce anything differently. I have worked extensively with kids going through unresolved crimes that affect their lives. Believe me, they don't find peace that easily. Not until the crime has been resolved. Often they remain feisty.

 

[sleepinoz]

Ex FFC did not mention the 2 cars parked in the street until she was driving her sister to Kendal from Coffs Harbour. 1-2 days later. No one else saw the cars.

Not sure why you think they drove from Coffs Harbour................................

 

[BreakingNews]

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Not sure why you think they drove from Coffs Harbour................................

Sorry, I got my geography wrong. Thanks for finding this.

 

[drsleuth]

Finding William: Gary Jubelin Unpacks the Stalled Search for the Truth - Nights with John Stanley

Gary Jubelin joins Bill Woods to demand answers in the 11-year mystery of William Tyrrell. From the "sufficiency of evidence" sitting with the DPP to the seven-year inquest that has failed to hand down findings, Jubelin explores why the investigation has "stalled" and what an independent inquiry...

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Gary Jubelin joins Bill Woods to demand answers in the 11-year mystery of William Tyrrell. From the "sufficiency of evidence" sitting with the DPP to the seven-year inquest that has failed to hand down findings, Jubelin explores why the investigation has "stalled" and what an independent inquiry needs to uncover. It’s a masterclass in homicide detective work and a heartbreaking plea for resolution in Australia’s most tragic cold case.

 

[SouthAussie]

I wonder if the inquest findings (when they are eventually released) will say what the ODPP's response was to the police submission to them.

As Jubes says, that was 4 years ago and the public still hasn't been provided with the answer to that (leaked) submission.

 

[BreakingNews]

I wonder if the inquest findings (when they are eventually released) will say what the ODPP's response was to the police submission to them.

As Jubes says, that was 4 years ago and the public still hasn't been provided with the answer to that (leaked) submission.

I thought the findings were due out this January? Or is there still no date for the findings to be released?

 

[JLZ]

I thought the findings were due out this January? Or is there still no date for the findings to be released?

"No date has been fixed" said the coroner's office in early December. Does that mean they won't be out in January? Don't know. I wish the journalist had asked: if they were going to be released in January, would a date necessarily have been fixed by now?

 

[BreakingNews]

"No date has been fixed" said the coroner's office in early December. Does that mean they won't be out in January? Don't know. I wish the journalist had asked: if they were going to be released in January, would a date necessarily have been fixed by now?

It's dragging on. That is about all I agree with Jubes about. He is brave to come out about this case when he cost tax payers a lot of money and got nowhere with this case.

Source: 9News.com.au Gary Jubelin loses appeal over conviction and $10,000 fine

 

[JBowie]

I can't believe that the ODDP still hasn't refused to prosecute those wacko proposed police charges. IMO the ODDP should have dismissed them very quickly.

 

[Angeline]

Just putting this out there in case it turns out to be relevant. As I mentioned before, I’ve recently been pondering the Epstein files and how paedophile rings tend to operate. From what I’ve been learning, it’s actually rare for a very young child to be abducted specifically for that purpose. More often, the child is brought to the abusers by the person or people caring for them. In some cases, individuals even seek out caring or guardianship roles for that very reason.

 

[Angeline]

Just thinking back over some details from early in the investigation.

Did police ever check that BS actually ordered a washing machine part? Because I remember an attempt was made to contact him about a washing machine part. I seem to remember the call was made the day William disappeared, but I could be mistaken.

Did police find a receipt, proof of a phone call to the supplier, etc?

Did police find that BS actually received the part?

I remember they raided a business premises.

Something is really bugging me. I feel like nobody should be taken at their word in this case.

 

[drsleuth]

Just thinking back over some details from early in the investigation.

Did police ever check that BS actually ordered a washing machine part? Because I remember an attempt was made to contact him about a washing machine part. I seem to remember the call was made the day William disappeared, but I could be mistaken.

Did police find a receipt, proof of a phone call to the supplier, etc?

Did police find that BS actually received the part?

I remember they raided a business premises.

Something is really bugging me. I feel like nobody should be taken at their word in this case.

Yes they did. He has well & truly been cleared ( & payed out a large amount of $'s )

 

[Angeline]

Yes they did. He has well & truly been cleared ( & payed out a large amount of $'s )

Thanks. I can't seem to find a source. Do you recall how it was proven the part was ordered/received?

 

[drsleuth]

Thanks. I can't seem to find a source. Do you recall how it was proven the part was ordered/received?

Washing machine parts were ordered on the 9/9/2014 after the midday cut off for next day delivery - Bill arrived to look at the washing machine @ about 11am than went & did another job, than contacted the parts people & than rang the FGM back with quotes & got the go ahead to order.

11/9/2014 1/2 washing machine parts delivered .

12/9/2014 @ 12:19 the other half of washing machine parts were delivered ( from police brief )

All written in Bill's work diary & a spiral note book that was shown at the inquest. Doc # 564

He went back & carried out the repairs @ 09:00 on the 18/9/22014

 

[Couldbe]

JMO – In regard to Gary Jubelin’s focus on Paul Savage (Who lived nearby across the road from the FGM’s house ( 'I was humiliated': When police accused this man of hurting William Tyrrell, his life changed forever)

I have wondered as follows:-

…. It seems to be that Jubelin had discounted involvement of any cars - in relation to the FM’s statement about the 2 cars she had seen parked across the road (Although it took a couple of days for her to make that statement when she returned from collecting her sister from the Airport).

…. Where would he likely have then focussed his attention - If he had not continued with his focus on Savage (After deciding Savage was not involved)?

…. Had Jubelin come to the conclusion that any abductor had knowledge of where William was actually playing in order to snatch him?

…. He appears to have preferred to suspect Savage ahead of any of the Paedophiles living around the Kendall area.

 

[BreakingNews]

JMO – In regard to Gary Jubelin’s focus on Paul Savage (Who lived nearby across the road from the FGM’s house ( 'I was humiliated': When police accused this man of hurting William Tyrrell, his life changed forever)

I have wondered as follows:-

…. It seems to be that Jubelin had discounted involvement of any cars - in relation to the FM’s statement about the 2 cars she had seen parked across the road (Although it took a couple of days for her to make that statement when she returned from collecting her sister from the Airport).

…. Where would he likely have then focussed his attention - If he had not continued with his focus on Savage (After deciding Savage was not involved)?

…. Had Jubelin come to the conclusion that any abductor had knowledge of where William was actually playing in order to snatch him?

…. He appears to have preferred to suspect Savage ahead of any of the Paedophiles living around the Kendall area.

I don't know. I would love to hear exactly what evidence Jubes actually had about the entire case. But there are so many biases in this case. Maybe time to call in Ron H. for a fresh eye in everything.

 

[Couldbe]

I don't know. I would love to hear exactly what evidence Jubes actually had about the entire case. But there are so many biases in this case. Maybe time to call in Ron H. for a fresh eye in everything.

JMO - Delving into what Jubelin, by his process of elimination, may have concluded.... that it had to have been someone within the 'sphere of influence' immediately close to the FM, William and his sister.

...... With Strikeforce Rosann eventually settling on the FM and her involvement.

However, (Former lead detective reveals police bugged car of William Tyrrell's foster-parents
"The former lead detective in the William Tyrrell case, Gary Jubelin, has revealed that he interrogated the missing boy's foster-parents and placed a listening device in their car before they were ruled out as suspects.

"Based on the answers to those questions and also the information that we gathered during the covert operation, they were again eliminated," he said."

 

[JBowie]

"Based on the answers to those questions and also the information that we gathered during the covert operation, they were again eliminated," he said.

Every time I read that bit, I think that if I were in their position and absolutely innocent, then I'd demand to take a polygraph test.

Yes, yes, I know it's not accepted in courts, and not considered 100% reliable, yaya, yada, yada, but it's considered good enough by the FBI and CIA to check their staff and that's good enough for me.