Australia Australia - William Tyrrell Disappeared While Playing in Yard - Kendall (NSW) - #74

[SLouTh]

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I already have Slouth in my post last night.

This photo?? #1105

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I think my photo may be clearer…..?????

Is it possible that on the right side of William’s mouth (left side looking at photo) there is red dice with white dots between his teeth????

I have even had my magnifying glass out …. It could also be a reflection ???

ALL IMO

 

[LolaAngelina]

Unfortunately I’m not very tech savvy and it may be difficult to see exactly what’s in Ws mouth with anything other than the original photo. I have a photo of the photos produced as evidence at the inquest and in that picture (photo 4 not photo 5 but photo 4) blown up there is something in his mouth between his teeth. That’s all I can say Slouth

I don’t see anything in his mouth. I’m sure this would have mentioned before and definitely at the inquest. Have you seen that stated somewhere or is just your opinion?

 

[Chrissy74]

It was more about this part….



And at nearly 9 years later, we still don’t know what happened to William, and as there has been no arrest, it APPEARS they don’t know either…. (Maybe they do??? And just need more evidence…..)

All IMO

The thing is Slouth are the public wanting answers about what happened to W or do they want justice for what happened to W? Because the 2 may very well not go hand in hand. How can there be justice if the death was an accident ? What other avenues are there for justice to be served? Charges for lying about the accidental death. That’s my opinion

 

[Chrissy74]

This photo?? #1105

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Australia - Australia - William Tyrrell Disappeared While Playing in Yard - Kendall (NSW) - #74

I think my photo may be clearer…..?????

Is it possible that on the right side of William’s mouth (left side looking at photo) there is red dice with white dots between his teeth????

I have even had my magnifying glass out …. It could also be a reflection ???

ALL IMO

Your pic shows more of a light in that area of Ws mouth because it is a pic of a pic and not a pic of the original. whereas the pic I posted being closest to the original shows the outline of the object which looks squarish to me and there is no flash no obscuring light only the outline of what appears to be a dice big enough to change the position of Ws mouth

 

[SLouTh]

The thing is Slouth are the public wanting answers about what happened to W or do they want justice for what happened to W? Because the 2 may very well not go hand in hand. How can there be justice if the death was an accident ? What other avenues are there for justice to be served? Charges for lying about the accidental death. That’s my opinion

Yes I know what you are saying ….. I personally am past the justice part for William ….especially if it was an accident ….

Australia does need to know what happened to William, and he needs to be found and laid to Rest In Peace….

All my opinion ….

 

[deugirtni]

Unfortunately I’m not very tech savvy and it may be difficult to see exactly what’s in Ws mouth with anything other than the original photo. I have a photo of the photos produced as evidence at the inquest and in that picture (photo 4 not photo 5 but photo 4) blown up there is something in his mouth between his teeth. That’s all I can say Slouth

To me, it looks like what you are seeing is his tongue, perhaps in the position of reaching up to the roof of his mouth, a motion possibly made during speech, or perhaps just making a sound.. and the 'white' part is the reflection of the glistening of his tongue. jmo. Definitely worth taking a better look at though, which it only makes sense that LE has done, imo.

 

[Chrissy74]

Yes I know what you are saying ….. I personally am past the justice part for William ….especially if it was an accident ….

Australia does need to know what happened to William, and he needs to be found and laid to Rest In Peace….

All my opinion ….

Same and I 100% agree with you Slouth

 

[iiiii's]

Your pic shows more of a light in that area of Ws mouth because it is a pic of a pic and not a pic of the original. whereas the pic I posted being closest to the original shows the outline of the object which looks squarish to me and there is no flash no obscuring light only the outline of what appears to be a dice big enough to change the position of Ws mouth

Chrissy, I have taken a photo on my phone of the clearest image i can find and blew it up.See below as the image I used. Where you are indicating in the mouth, between the tongue and teeth has been photoshopped, for what purpose, I cannot say. I don't know how to upload the image from my phone onto this site but anyone else can see this as well. S it is an interesting find. IMO.

 

[Chrissy74]

Chrissy, I have taken a photo on my phone of the clearest image i can find and blew it up.See below as the image I used. Where you are indicating in the mouth has been edited. I don't know how to upload the image from my phone onto this site but anyone else can see this as well. S it is an interesting find. IMO. View attachment 409211

Hi.. I’m not referring to this photo but the photo that was taken only seconds prior. There were 5 photos taken that morning and the photo that I believe shows something in Ws mouth is the 4th photo.

 

[iiiii's]

Hi.. I’m not referring to this photo but the photo that was taken only seconds prior. There were 5 photos taken that morning and the photo that I believe shows something in Ws mouth is the 4th photo.

I understand but just try the experiment with this picture anyway. If I could find the 4th picture in the same quality as the one I posted, I would try it on that pic as well. He could well have a di in his mouth. Worked it out... here you go... that circle is directly copied from the picture, not me. New images released of William on fifth anniversary of disappearance I would use the link to take you to the picture as the circle is lost when i try it from the copy i put on my post of the last roar picture, one post back.

 

[Chrissy74]

I understand but just try the experiment with this picture anyway. If I could find the 4th picture in the same quality as the one I posted, I would try it on that pic as well.

Thanks. This may not be the clearest pic but is closest to the original

 

[Couldbe]

Thanks. This may not be the clearest pic but is closest to the original

Some people are to connect laptop/phone to their TV to enable a larger and maybe clearer portrayal.

 

[iiiii's]

Was there a list of things published that had been retrieved from the last big dig? I just remember some specialist saying some particulate matter would have broken down to the size of an 1/8th of a marble. Wonder if any dice were found.

 

[SLouTh]

Was there a list of things published that had been retrieved from the last big dig? I just remember some specialist saying some particulate matter would have broken down to the size of an 1/8th of a marble. Wonder if any dice were found.

No list that I can recall ….. they still had something like 15 tonne of dirt to sift… IIRC?? And there have been no results to date…..

IMO

 

[InFocus]

Whilst we are always open to theories, I can't possibly see any connection to William having a dice in his mouth. Least of all trying to look at grainy images, zoom in, and make something out of nothing. I will have to disagree on this occasion.

 

[iiiii's]

Whilst we are always open to theories, I can't possibly see any connection to William having a dice in his mouth. Least of all trying to look at grainy images, zoom in, and make something out of nothing. I will have to disagree on this occasion.

No problem, I've done the same as yourself quite a few times during the life of the case. I think I just felt quite chuffed that I had the means to be able to look a little closer into something that another member was interested in and followed their lead and instincts for a change instead of just my own pet interests. And I felt rewarded with an interesting anomoly. Could mean nothing or something, but something is definitely circled in the picture, and it makes me wonder why a person, prior to publication, circled that area inside his mouth, which has been a recently discussed topic among some members. It also makes me think about the quality of photos 102, 103 and 104. Why is the quality for publication so crappy compared to 101 and 105? When 105 was 1st published, it was of a pretty poor quality in a lot of publications but has improved in recent years in MSM. IMO

 

[InFocus]

No problem, I've done the same as yourself quite a few times during the life of the case. I think I just felt quite chuffed that I had the means to be able to look a little closer into something that another member was interested in and followed their lead and instincts for a change instead of just my own pet interests. And I felt rewarded with an interesting anomoly. Could mean nothing or something, but something is definitely circled in the picture, and it makes me wonder why a person, prior to publication, circled that area inside his mouth, which has been a recently discussed topic among some members. It also makes me think about the quality of photos 102, 103 and 104. Why is the quality for publication so crappy compared to 101 and 105? When 105 was 1st published, it was of a pretty poor quality in a lot of publications but has improved in recent years in MSM. IMO

I've always wondered what the actual raw images (straight out of the camera) look like, are they grainy? It's quite clear to me that the famous "roar" photo has been airbrushed...softer skin tones etc.. Whether there's grain (noise - photography term) in the 5 images is very important in helping to analyze the light - and said time the images were "alleged" to have been taken. I'd be very keen to know the shutter speeds, ISO, and aperture of all 5 images as they will give a good indication of 7:37am vs 9:37am to any professional photographer.

You're 100% right MSM often published grainy photos in their articles, occasionally we'd see the (assumed) airbrushed image.

 

[deugirtni]

Chrissy, I have taken a photo on my phone of the clearest image i can find and blew it up.See below as the image I used. Where you are indicating in the mouth, between the tongue and teeth has been photoshopped, for what purpose, I cannot say. I don't know how to upload the image from my phone onto this site but anyone else can see this as well. S it is an interesting find. IMO. View attachment 409211

Hi.. I’m not referring to this photo but the photo that was taken only seconds prior. There were 5 photos taken that morning and the photo that I believe shows something in Ws mouth is the 4th photo.

I understand but just try the experiment with this picture anyway. If I could find the 4th picture in the same quality as the one I posted, I would try it on that pic as well. He could well have a di in his mouth. Worked it out... here you go... that circle is directly copied from the picture, not me. New images released of William on fifth anniversary of disappearance I would use the link to take you to the picture as the circle is lost when i try it from the copy i put on my post of the last roar picture, one post back.
View attachment 409216

Thanks. This may not be the clearest pic but is closest to the original

No problem, I've done the same as yourself quite a few times during the life of the case. I think I just felt quite chuffed that I had the means to be able to look a little closer into something that another member was interested in and followed their lead and instincts for a change instead of just my own pet interests. And I felt rewarded with an interesting anomoly. Could mean nothing or something, but something is definitely circled in the picture, and it makes me wonder why a person, prior to publication, circled that area inside his mouth, which has been a recently discussed topic among some members. It also makes me think about the quality of photos 102, 103 and 104. Why is the quality for publication so crappy compared to 101 and 105? When 105 was 1st published, it was of a pretty poor quality in a lot of publications but has improved in recent years in MSM. IMO

Thank you iiii's.. I was very confused and misunderstood about what you had written and shown regarding 'the red circle'.. that is VERY interesting! Wild! I have no idea how you got your pic to zoom in that much!

Chrissy74 I think you indicated that you have some better-quality photos of these five last photos of W? Is it possible for you to zoom in this way on photo#4 to see if there happens to be a red circle on that one as well?

 

[SouthAussie]

I've always wondered what the actual raw images (straight out of the camera) look like, are they grainy? It's quite clear to me that the famous "roar" photo has been airbrushed...softer skin tones etc.. Whether there's grain (noise - photography term) in the 5 images is very important in helping to analyze the light - and said time the images were "alleged" to have been taken. I'd be very keen to know the shutter speeds, ISO, and aperture of all 5 images as they will give a good indication of 7:37am vs 9:37am to any professional photographer.

You're 100% right MSM often published grainy photos in their articles, occasionally we'd see the (assumed) airbrushed image.

Back in 2018, a member did some calculations (using a Sun App) to calculate the time of day of the photos.
If the time was around 7:30am, the shadows in the photos would have been at a different angle.

This is a link to one of the member's posts about it, but I believe there are more further back in the threads from this post .... Thread 32, post 21.

 

[InFocus]

Back in 2018, a member did some calculations (using a Sun App) to calculate the time of day of the photos.
If the time was around 7:30am, the shadows in the photos would have been at a different angle.

This is a link to one of the member's posts about it, but I believe there are more further back in the threads from this post .... Thread 32, post 21.

The only issue was that on September 12th 2014 it was a cloudy morning, with very little sun as I recall.

Weather in September 2014 in Kendall, New South Wales, Australia

Weather reports from September 2014 in Kendall, New South Wales, Australia with highs and lows

www.timeanddate.com