Australia Australia - William Tyrrell Disappeared While Playing in Yard - Kendall (NSW) - #75

[JBowie]

My other idea is that she might have been able to drive up the fire trail to Kendall Forest and then return via Batar Creek Road. If so she would have been facing north where she stopped for the truck. There is plenty of pull-over area on that side. Some people say FGM's car couldn't have done it. I don't know.

My experience of fire trails -- even the well-maintained ones -- is that they are usually 4WD type vehicle territory: rough, rutted, bumpy and rocky. Not the place for a sedan.

 

[Dannywood]

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The latest theory from police is that the FM covered up an accidental death by a rushed disposal of his body in bushland near the riding school.
That seems implausible but no doubt it is physically possible that she could have dumped the body there. There would not have been a lot of time and the road is reasonably trafficked but it is possible. She certainly didn't have time to bury the body and freshly turned dirt would have been discovered. It would also have meant straight away police knowing it was murder. So it was dumped on the surface or in the culvert to make it appear he died from misadventure.

And if she really did do that, the only motivation that makes sense to me was to have the body discovered somewhere else and death ruled as misadventure. Not to hide the body for all time.

But if that occurred, then why was the body not discovered in the search over the next 10 days.? Cadaver dogs were brought to the area by the second day and the area was combed by searchers on foot, horseback, motorbikes, you name it.
It would also have been smelling by then.
Then others say she went back and moved the body the next night.. But once the news broke the area was teeming with people night and day and no way could she have risked that.
Only other explanation is that some other unknown person stumbled across the body and removed it for reason unknown? Or a large predator found it and took it, maybe it would be possible for a big eagle to do that, swoop in and carry the complete body away.? The nest could be up to 10kms away. He doesn't look like he was very heavy. But still seems very unlikely.
But so does every other scenario.

They didn't originally search that area. If it's the bush road next to the riding school, it wasn't searched. AFAIK.

 

[JLZ]

Sorry to be gruesome but if there are dingoes in the area it wouldn’t take them long to find and take the body into denser bush, and there was plenty of that in the area.

PORT MACQUARIE FOUND AS DINGO HOTSPOT - NBN News

After 16 years of research, the University of New South Wales has found three hotspots for so-called

www.nbnnews.com.au

 

[centred]

My experience of fire trails -- even the well-maintained ones -- is that they are usually 4WD type vehicle territory: rough, rutted, bumpy and rocky. Not the place for a sedan.

Just popped in to say not mine , i used to travel many of them in my Datson 120y and other sedans since , lost once on a forestry road in a Holden Kingswood , lucky it had nice fat tyres

I have often wondered why that track was not thought of as a quick out of view track available and yes exits at other points ....its a phurfy that sedans cannot traverse these sort of roads imo

 

[LolaAngelina]

I'm not willing to call her a liar, but I have trouble with her versions. However, I'm not prepared to hang someone on that basis.

Let the police present plausible evidence or elicit a confession.

Sorry l wasn’t saying that about you in particular. Just a general comment l see people make

 

[Mrs G Norris]

My experience of fire trails -- even the well-maintained ones -- is that they are usually 4WD type vehicle territory: rough, rutted, bumpy and rocky. Not the place for a sedan.

Depends, we are on a plantation with fire trails (not awesomely maintained) and I used my old Corolla to get around it no problem.

 

[SouthAussie]

Just popped in to say not mine , i used to travel many of them in my Datson 120y and other sedans since , lost once on a forestry road in a Holden Kingswood , lucky it had nice fat tyres

I have often wondered why that track was not thought of as a quick out of view track available and yes exits at other points ....its a phurfy that sedans cannot traverse these sort of roads imo

They searched the bush tracks really well. They did very thorough searches in the entire area. I also remember them conducting a search for "a part that could have fallen from a vehicle" on the bush tracks.

I am not sure that everyone is aware of the MASSIVE scale of the physical search for William in the first few weeks, and then again for four weeks in 2018 - and that does not include all of the site searches at various places when tips came in or something led police to a different area.

We have followed many searches for William on this thread.

 

[SouthAussie]

OK, thanks.

In that case she could well have driven some distance down Batar Creek Rd, past the Cobb & Co Rd intersection, into the heavily forested area. That would be a massive task to search without some clue as to the general area.

There was the search for William that was conducted further down Batar Creek Road, later on in the case. Past Cobb & Co Road. I think the street number was in the 400s (IIRC, but maybe not).

I am not sure that we ever really knew what that search was about.

 

[iiiii's]

Just popped in to say not mine , i used to travel many of them in my Datson 120y and other sedans since , lost once on a forestry road in a Holden Kingswood , lucky it had nice fat tyres

I have often wondered why that track was not thought of as a quick out of view track available and yes exits at other points ....its a phurfy that sedans cannot traverse these sort of roads imo

In CO's podcast I think she describes taking the bio GM up to the beginning of the track in Benaroon Dr. and damaging her car. I think it is known that a sedan could not go through that point without doing serious damage to the vehicle. The car that was taken to be searched was a hatchback or sedan and falls into that category.

 

[sleepinoz]

They didn't originally search that area. If it's the bush road next to the riding school, it wasn't searched. AFAIK.

It seems it was searched:

"Today the search area was extended to a three-kilometre radius from the grandmother's house, while trail bikes and four-wheel drives will look beyond that area."

Missing boy could not survive six days in bush: police

Police say they no longer believe it is possible a three-year-old boy could still be alive if he was lost in bushland on the New South Wales mid-north coast. Three-year-old William Tyrrell was last seen wearing a Spider-Man costume and playing with his sister last Friday morning at their...

www.abc.net.au

 

[Couldbe]

JMO - Sure is a mystery; it wasn't for those fortuitous photos (FM said 3 photos:“M: I took the photo, I took three photos,…”
IN THEIR WORDS: William Tyrrell's parents talk of the day their boy went missing and the 'living nightmare' they endure)

The last evidence evidence of William actually being alive would be the CCTV at Maccas ... the night before!

 

[iiiii's]

PORT MACQUARIE FOUND AS DINGO HOTSPOT - NBN News

After 16 years of research, the University of New South Wales has found three hotspots for so-called

www.nbnnews.com.au

He was concerned by footprints he detected on Tuesday from an "enormous" wild dog in the thick bushland nearby. Jake Cassar bush tracker_ quoted from this article in 2014 .
Survival in bush not possible for missing Kendall boy, say experts

 

[Raina_the_observer]

They searched the bush tracks really well. They did very thorough searches in the entire area. I also remember them conducting a search for "a part that could have fallen from a vehicle" on the bush tracks.

I am not sure that everyone is aware of the MASSIVE scale of the physical search for William in the first few weeks, and then again for four weeks in 2018 - and that does not include all of the site searches at various places when tips came in or something led police to a different area.

We have followed many searches for William on this thread.

Exactly, that is why I have so much issue with idea that they didn't find a dumped body so close to home...
Most logical explanation for them not finding it was that it was not there.

 

[JLZ]

He was concerned by footprints he detected on Tuesday from an "enormous" wild dog in the thick bushland nearby. Jake Cassar bush tracker_ quoted from this article in 2014 .
Survival in bush not possible for missing Kendall boy, say experts

We'll look so foolish as Australians if it turns out a dingo took William.

 

[centred]

They searched the bush tracks really well. They did very thorough searches in the entire area. I also remember them conducting a search for "a part that could have fallen from a vehicle" on the bush tracks.

I am not sure that everyone is aware of the MASSIVE scale of the physical search for William in the first few weeks, and then again for four weeks in 2018 - and that does not include all of the site searches at various places when tips came in or something led police to a different area.

We have followed many searches for William on this thread.

Yes I am very aware re the scale and the searches , my comment was only about the impression these roads are not accessible to different types of vehicles ...I am sure most people in Australia are aware of our diverse and vast landscapes and just because this one is close to a town and at the so called end of a rural suburb , let alone a continuation of that street or drive it is much more likely people use it for different reasons ,I know we do ...

 

[SouthAussie]

Here is the search that happened further down Batar Creek Road, past Cobb and Co Road.


Jun 2018
Police investigating the disappearance of William Tyrrell have said a new search zone is based on information they have had for some time.
Officers have now turned their focus to a new area at the corner of Batar Creek Road and Cedar Loggers Lane, about four kilometres from where William was last seen.
"The reason why we're searching this very specific area of bushland is a result of information we've uncovered during the course of the investigation"

Bushland search area changes after police uncover new lead

 

[centred]

In CO's podcast I think she describes taking the bio GM up to the beginning of the track in Benaroon Dr. and damaging her car. I think it is known that a sedan could not go through that point without doing serious damage to the vehicle. The car that was taken to be searched was a hatchback or sedan and falls into that category.

Maybe ..whatever , it still does not or should not discount that road CAN be used as a quick escape ....I am sure it was also part of the reason they searched that area and beyond ..I am not debating who or which car could have exited but that it could be done ...and possibly with any vehicle if you were a good enough driver ..I have only seen the track by air ..so MOO

 

[iiiii's]

We'll look so foolish as Australians if it turns out a dingo took William.

It was all in reply to the theory that he might have been left above the surface, which I tend to agree with, to look like misadventure and then the question was posed then why wasn't he found or the smell attract someone? A large predator was ventured as maybe interfering at that point and I was just pointing out what was clocked in the area at the time he was missing. Wild dogs are apparently a problem around the bush in this area, not necessarily a dingo.

 

[JBowie]

Just popped in to say not mine , i used to travel many of them in my Datson 120y and other sedans since , lost once on a forestry road in a Holden Kingswood , lucky it had nice fat tyres

I have often wondered why that track was not thought of as a quick out of view track available and yes exits at other points ....its a phurfy that sedans cannot traverse these sort of roads imo

I've been a passenger once in a Land Cruiser and my kidneys were not impressed with me by the end of that drive.

I have walked a few, too.

Not the sort of trip I'd want to make without a winch, either, especially when it comes to logs across the track.

 

[JBowie]

Sorry l wasn’t saying that about you in particular. Just a general comment l see people make

No problem. I took it as a general comment.