Australia Australia - William Tyrrell Disappeared While Playing in Yard - Kendall (NSW) #79

[drsleuth]

So suspicious that she never told Police about the drive for 6 days.

Never mentioned it in the 000 call either and also told husband William “was here 5 minutes ago”.

On the 000 call she said there were no cars around and also changed this story to there being 2 suspicious cars,

I see too many red flags and too many holes in her changing stories. In the absence of any other person looking guilty, she is still clearly at the very top of my list.

Police obviously can’t prove this though and she seems to be very lucky that Police were so sloppy in the early parts of this investigation.

BBM : or unlucky IMO

 

[SouthAussie]

A human skull found in a popular national park in Queensland may belong to a child and appears to have been deliberately placed.

Disturbing theory about human remains found at popular tourist destination

The remains have been sent for forensic testing.

7news.com.au

"Further examinations, including DNA and carbon dating, could take months, he said."

Are Qld labs still in chaos after their testing scandal?

 

[SouthAussie]

In the absence of any other person looking guilty ...

I don't believe that is the case.

 

[FromGermany1]

A human skull found in a popular national park in Queensland may belong to a child and appears to have been deliberately placed.

Disturbing theory about human remains found at popular tourist destination

The remains have been sent for forensic testing.

7news.com.au

I added:

Australia Thread 'Suspected Human Remains Found, Springbrook National Park, Gold Coast, Queensland, 3rd January 2025'

Jan 3, 2025

https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/news/springbrook-national-park-crime-scene-set-up-after-suspected-human-bones-found-on-gold-coast/news-story/365f03910d8f3c0a211dc5bab2b65632

Human remains found at popular tourist destination

A member of the public made the grim discovery.

7news.com.au

MSN

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[drsleuth]

Kendall to Springbrook National Park approx 5 1/2 hrs ( 505kms )

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Kendall+NSW/Springbrook+National+Park/@-29.7667191,150.465189,633081m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x6b75e4c606032551:0x40609b49043a350!2m2!1d152.7067105!2d-31.632568!1m5!1m1!1s0x6b90e3df8f4a168b:0xf02a35bd7214750!2m2!1d153.2903248!2d-28.2077209!3e0!5m1!1e1?hl=en&entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

 

[Warshawski]

Apparently some ancient museum artefact !

Bizarre twist as mystery of human remains found in national park deepens

A thorough forensic examination of the remains has revealed a strange new detail.

7news.com.au

 

[Bethan]

Apparently some ancient museum artefact !

Bizarre twist as mystery of human remains found in national park deepens

A thorough forensic examination of the remains has revealed a strange new detail.

7news.com.au

Surprising but good news!

 

[drsleuth]

Apparently some ancient museum artefact !

Bizarre twist as mystery of human remains found in national park deepens

A thorough forensic examination of the remains has revealed a strange new detail.

7news.com.au

The case is now being referred to the coroner to try to work out what happened.

Why would it be referred to the coroner if it was a museum specimen??

 

[SouthAussie]

The case is now being referred to the coroner to try to work out what happened.

Why would it be referred to the coroner if it was a museum specimen??

I had a look around and it seems that in various places (UK, Canada, our state of Victoria, some areas of the US) it is up to a Coroner to determine if remains are of archaeological significance.
Probably the same in many places. imo

Canada
The Coroner's Office will determine if human remains are of archaeological significance .... If the remains are archaeological in nature, the branch will work with the affected First Nations to arrange for their respectful handling and disposition in a culturally appropriate manner.

Report finding an archaeological artifact or human remains

Learn how to recognize and report an archaeological find or human remains. Also, learn how to report a find and who to reports the find to.

www2.gov.bc.ca

Victoria, Australia

Report Ancestral Remains

Aboriginal Ancestral Remains (Ancestors) should be owned by and returned to their Traditional Owners.

www.aboriginalheritagecouncil.vic.gov.au

 

[drsleuth]

I had a look around and it seems that in various places (UK, Canada, our state of Victoria, some areas of the US) it is up to a Coroner to determine if remains are of archaeological significance.
Probably the same in many places. imo

Canada
The Coroner's Office will determine if human remains are of archaeological significance .... If the remains are archaeological in nature, the branch will work with the affected First Nations to arrange for their respectful handling and disposition in a culturally appropriate manner.

Report finding an archaeological artifact or human remains

Learn how to recognize and report an archaeological find or human remains. Also, learn how to report a find and who to reports the find to.

www2.gov.bc.ca

Victoria, Australia

Report Ancestral Remains

Aboriginal Ancestral Remains (Ancestors) should be owned by and returned to their Traditional Owners.

www.aboriginalheritagecouncil.vic.gov.au

It's all just so bizarre.

I would have thought that xanthe might have spoken on this, as it's her area after all & she usually does.....but all quite.....odd

 

[JBowie]

‘I can’t let it go, I won’t let it go’: Moment colleagues turned on William Tyrrell detective

The former lead detective in the William Tyrrell case has opened up about how the boy’s unsolved disappearance continues to haunt him.

Paraphrased: He has no confidence in the investigation process and expects that the public would have the same opinion. He also opines that being featured in the Underbelly TV series caused internal resentment and may have been related to his being taken off the Tyrrell case and other cases.

Article includes a link to a Something To Talk About podcast.

(pay-walled)

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/i-cant-let-it-go-i-wont-let-it-go-moment-colleagues-turned-on-william-tyrrell-detective/news-story/1a3d2290ee03d4a62ccac42cb16a30d5

 

[Warshawski]

‘I can’t let it go, I won’t let it go’: Moment colleagues turned on William Tyrrell detective

The former lead detective in the William Tyrrell case has opened up about how the boy’s unsolved disappearance continues to haunt him.

Paraphrased: He has no confidence in the investigation process and expects that the public would have the same opinion. He also opines that being featured in the Underbelly TV series caused internal resentment and may have been related to his being taken off the Tyrrell case and other cases.

Article includes a link to a Something To Talk About podcast.

(pay-walled)

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/i-cant-let-it-go-i-wont-let-it-go-moment-colleagues-turned-on-william-tyrrell-detective/news-story/1a3d2290ee03d4a62ccac42cb16a30d5

The terribly sad and inexplicable disappearance of little William has had a huge impact on the lives of so many people.

And then there’s the millions of $$ that have been poured into the investigation, with a questionable return on its spend IMO.

Questions need to be asked & Answers need to be demanded. I say bring on an official & unbiased enquiry asap.

 

[bearbear]

That's certainly not my thought. I firmly believe the FM is 100% responsible, and the FF and FGM helped cover it up. Listen, when someone beats a defenseless child with a spoon, and talks hatefully to and about children, she most certainly is capable of killing William.

That's certainly not my thought. I firmly believe the FM is 100% responsible, and the FF and FGM helped cover it up. Listen, when someone beats a defenseless child with a spoon, and talks hatefully to and about children, she most certainly is capable of killing William.

i agree, i think shes guilty and responsible for williams disappearance and death

 

[Lemony]

Dan Box appearing as a guest on the Australian True Crime podcast. He chats with
Xanthe Mallett.

What Went Wrong in the Search for William Tyrrell | Australian True Crime

Listen to What Went Wrong in the Search for William Tyrrell from Australian True Crime. The long-awaited findings from the inquest into William Tyrrell’s disappearance are soon to be revealed. William, just three years old, vanished from Kendall, New South Wales, on September 12, 2014.Joining us...

shows.acast.com

 

[SouthAussie]

Dan Box appearing as a guest on the Australian True Crime podcast. He chats with
Xanthe Mallett.

What Went Wrong in the Search for William Tyrrell | Australian True Crime

Listen to What Went Wrong in the Search for William Tyrrell from Australian True Crime. The long-awaited findings from the inquest into William Tyrrell’s disappearance are soon to be revealed. William, just three years old, vanished from Kendall, New South Wales, on September 12, 2014.Joining us...

shows.acast.com

I have now listened to the full hour. For those of us who have followed all of the Witness podcast episodes, we know a lot of what was said.


Dan: "We never set out to look for William, partly because better people than us have tried"

Dan: "The thing that I struggle to get past is ... William's disappearance is a tragedy. But the police investigation itself has caused tragic consequences for so many people. People whose lives will never be the same again."

Dan has seen the foster care records. There is nothing in them that points to any abuse. Ben Atwood had documented everything. One incident in isolation (black eye from falling against table, looked at by a hospital immediately), no pattern of injuries.

Xanthe says that the police creating and using the court of public opinion is fundamentally wrong. Why? Because this could happen to any one of us.

Any one of us could be involved in a tragedy, have the police look at us and put us squarely in the court of public opinion - with no evidence and no witnesses - and our whole lives would be destroyed.

"Noble cause corruption" is what Mick Fuller called it.

imo

 

[Warshawski]

i agree, i think shes guilty and responsible for williams disappearance and death

It’s a dreadful situation, I can’t imagine having to endure such a thing.
I’ve tried, and am still trying really hard to remain objective - but it is getting harder.
As much as I might label things as ‘circumstantial’ / ‘excusable under stress’ etc etc, I can’t find anything to balance out the stuff that rings alarm bells for me.

 

[SouthAussie]

It’s a dreadful situation, I can’t imagine having to endure such a thing.
I’ve tried, and am still trying really hard to remain objective - but it is getting harder.
As much as I might label things as ‘circumstantial’ / ‘excusable under stress’ etc etc, I can’t find anything to balance out the stuff that rings alarm bells for me.

Maybe the way to balance things out is by taking the focus off the FM for more than a minute and try looking at the other people who have circumstantial evidence against them, and other occurrences that are not related to her. Then maybe it can be seen that there are too many other possibilities.

I feel that when only one person is looked at, over and over (for more than 4 years, in the case of the NSWPOL investigation), other things can be missed.

All of this intricate examination by the police (or anyone else) hasn't advanced the case.

 

[FromGermany1]

Maybe the way to balance things out is by taking the focus off the FM for more than a minute and try looking at the other people who have circumstantial evidence against them, and other occurrences that are not related to her. Then maybe it can be seen that there are too many other possibilities.

I feel that when only one person is looked at, over and over (for more than 4 years, in the case of the NSWPOL investigation), other things can be missed.

All of this intricate examination by the police (or anyone else) hasn't advanced the case.

Do we agree, that one person alone couldn't have done the whole "disappearing", but it needed a staff of involved people? For what reasons they helped, may have been different from person to person.

 

[SouthAussie]

Do we agree, that one person alone couldn't have done the whole "disappearing", but it needed a staff of involved people? For what reasons they helped, may have been different from person to person.

I think the hardest cases to crack are ones where only one person is involved. And where it is a stranger on stranger crime. There are no links that the police can make, and there is no-one who knows about the perp's involvement.

This case has proved to be very, very hard (impossible?) to crack.

 

[JBowie]

and there is no-one who knows about the perp's involvement.

The fact that a $1 million reward has sat unclaimed since September 2016 seems to suggest that there isn't anyone who knows, or maybe if there is then they are not inclined -- for whatever reason -- to come forward while the perp is still alive.

At the time, the then Commissioner of Police said:

“This is a unique reward, it does not require the charge and conviction of any person(s), it relates to the recovery of William Tyrrell.

“By offering a reward at this point in the investigation, we are appealing directly to those who know something but have not previously been inclined to assist.

“If you know something, there are now a million reasons to come forward.