Australia Australia - William Tyrrell Disappeared While Playing in Yard - Kendall (NSW) #79

[drsleuth]

https://www.news.com.au/national/crime/william-tyrrells-foster-mum-breaks-silence-amid-new-claims-aired-about-person-of-interest-in-case/news-story/34d7b2bb1de4b141ff3aecedbeab4737

William Tyrrell’s foster mum breaks silence amid new claims aired about person of interest in case​

William Tyrrell’s foster mother has called for police to investigate bombshell new claims aired about another person of interest in the case.

Dan Box and Nina Young

May 23, 2025 - 5:00AM

“In the middle of William’s inquest we find three more families who don’t have answers,” said the woman, who cannot be named for legal reasons.

“That’s not acceptable. How can they be forgotten?”

Asked if she thought police should investigate this new evidence, much of which was tendered to the inquest into William’s disappearance and suspected death, she said, “Yes.”

William’s foster father had his convictions overturned on appeal, and the foster mother will learn the results of her own appeal at a court hearing today.

 

[drsleuth]

‘Foster mum speaks’ - New suspect in William Tyrrell mystery

LISTEN ABOVE as Ben takes a look at the new details that have emerged in the mystery involving the disappearance of William Tyrrell. Hear more highlights from Ben Fordham Live in the playlist below and give us a follow on Apple Podcasts:

www.2gb.com

 

[drsleuth]

Missing boy's foster mum's assault conviction tossed

William Tyrrell's former foster mother has overturned her conviction for intimidating and assaulting another child under her care.

au.news.yahoo.com

The former foster mother of missing toddler William Tyrrell has overturned a conviction over the intimidation and assault of another child.

Her conviction over these incidents was overturned on Friday at Sydney's Downing Centre District Court.

Judge Miiko Kumar found the offences proved but imposed a 12-month conditional release order without conviction.

Five counts of intimidation brought against the foster mother over alleged incidents related to the child were dismissed by Ms McIntyre in March 2024.

 

[Wexford]

If you follow the theory that FA is involved, you could consider that the 2 cars parked in the street that morning, only seen by the FM, were really there and possibly disappeared down the bush track at the end of Benaroon Drive (as we know he liked to use bush tracks as opposed to main roads at times).
But following this thought pattern, this means there was most likely at least one other person involved (or at the very least, aware of what occurred) as there were two cars so presumably two people met up for whatever reason.
More, perhaps, if you also consider the earlier vehicle the FM saw when the kids were riding their bikes.

 

[scruffydog]

Missing boy's foster mum's assault conviction tossed

William Tyrrell's former foster mother has overturned her conviction for intimidating and assaulting another child under her care.

au.news.yahoo.com

The former foster mother of missing toddler William Tyrrell has overturned a conviction over the intimidation and assault of another child.

Her conviction over these incidents was overturned on Friday at Sydney's Downing Centre District Court.

Judge Miiko Kumar found the offences proved but imposed a 12-month conditional release order without conviction.

Five counts of intimidation brought against the foster mother over alleged incidents related to the child were dismissed by Ms McIntyre in March 2024.

That judge should be disbarred

 

[SouthAussie]

If you follow the theory that FA is involved, you could consider that the 2 cars parked in the street that morning, only seen by the FM, were really there and possibly disappeared down the bush track at the end of Benaroon Drive (as we know he liked to use bush tracks as opposed to main roads at times).
But following this thought pattern, this means there was most likely at least one other person involved (or at the very least, aware of what occurred) as there were two cars so presumably two people met up for whatever reason.
More, perhaps, if you also consider the earlier vehicle the FM saw when the kids were riding their bikes.

I was always under the impression that one car could have been involved (the white car at the rear).
Because a person could pull up very tightly behind the already-parked grey car and not have the front plate of the car visible.

"Steve" (in the Ch7 doco) thought that FA had a white vehicle that morning.

imo


Former friend of FA, "Steve":
- FA got his pension on Thursday 11 Sep 2014 (the day before William went missing) and remembers where he was that day (Thursday) and that he'd stayed at his friend Ray's place that night. FA's phone shows no movement for three days after that.
- Ray P was FA's best friend. By 2014, RP was frail and "obviously" dying from a kidney infection. RP went to dialysis at Port Macquarie Hospital from 9am to 3pm on Friday 12 Sep 2014. According to Steve, FA might have driven RP to hospital in RP's car for the 9am start before going to Kendall with a plan of petty theft at FGM's, an idea which possibly might have occurred because his friend GO had previously done a quote to repair the deck there.
- RP had a white station wagon with "dress mags"[?] which Steve had put on the car for him. When police showed Steve a photo sketch of cars as remembered by FFC, the white one was identical to Ray's - a "100% exact match".

Thread 57, post 301

 

[SouthAussie]

Judge Miiko Kumar found the offences proved but imposed a 12-month conditional release order without conviction.

"Courts can use the Conditional Release Order to deal with first time and less serious offences where the offender is unlikely to present a risk to the community.

The CRO acts as a warning and provides the option to divert less serious offenders out of the criminal justice system, freeing up resources to deal with the offenders who cause the greatest concern to the community. If an offender commits any further offences while on a CRO, subsequent penalties may be more severe."

Conditional Release Orders

The benefit of a Community Correction Order (CCO) is that they are a flexible sentence that can be tailored to reflect the nature of the offender and the offence.

correctiveservices.dcj.nsw.gov.au

 

[BoysTown]

Is there anyone that recalls whether the police verified the testimony of foster mum and nan playing outside with the children in the morning?

Did any neighbours confirm either sighting or at least hearing the kids playing in the yard that morning?. Foster Nan was annoyed that William was being so loud and boisterous.

When the interviewer asked her ‘what were your first thoughts when you realised you couldn’t hear him, and there was only silence?.

And she goes… ‘aah Heaven’.

There was a frozen moment before she quickly fumbles it into a little bit of humour, boys being boys and all…

It’s a quiet street and noise carries so presumably the squeaks and squeals while riding their bikes, and the daddy tiger roars were heard by one or more of the neighbours.

I think I remember neighbours saying they hadn’t sighted them, but surely they would have heard them?

Paul Savage apparently heard ‘children’ playing on the morning of the disappearance. It’s been discussed in the thread previously.

'I remember hearing kids': Tyrrell witness | The New Daily 'I remember hearing kids': Tyrrell witness

%%excerpt%% An elderly neighbour told the William Tyrrell inquest he remembers hearing kids playing about an hour before the three-year-old went missing.

www.thenewdaily.com.au

 

[Lemony]

The former foster mother of missing boy William Tyrrell has had her conviction for assaulting and intimidating a different child overturned due to her "unique and heartbreaking stresses".

William Tyrrell's former foster mother has conviction overturned over different child

The woman, who cannot be identified for legal reasons, successfully appealed her conviction for two counts of assault and two counts of intimidation against the different child.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Chrissy74]

"Courts can use the Conditional Release Order to deal with first time and less serious offences where the offender is unlikely to present a risk to the community.

The CRO acts as a warning and provides the option to divert less serious offenders out of the criminal justice system, freeing up resources to deal with the offenders who cause the greatest concern to the community. If an offender commits any further offences while on a CRO, subsequent penalties may be more severe."

Conditional Release Orders

The benefit of a Community Correction Order (CCO) is that they are a flexible sentence that can be tailored to reflect the nature of the offender and the offence.

correctiveservices.dcj.nsw.gov.au

Without convictions the fp can continue being OOHCs.

 

[drsleuth]

William Tyrrell's former foster mother has conviction overturned over different child

The woman, who cannot be identified for legal reasons, successfully appealed her conviction for two counts of assault and two counts of intimidation against the different child.

www.abc.net.au

"I accept that she experienced a combination of factors, which were unique and heartbreaking stresses.
"She has been described as a blameless character, which I accept."


"She's a person whose culpability on any view must be regarded as being at a low level and one, which is strongly mitigated by as powerful [of a] subjective case as could be imagined," the judge said.

At the time the woman spoke to a friend about the pressure she was under following William's disappearance, and Judge Kumar found she had demonstrated "genuine remorse" for the psychical assaults.

 

[drsleuth]

Without convictions the fp can continue being OOHCs.

Personally, I don't know why they would want to, I wouldn't IMO

 

[Eloise]

Without convictions the fp can continue being OOHCs.

Is that the case? I believe foster parents are held to a higher standard than just 'doesn't have a criminal record'. All corporal punishment is disallowed for foster carers, regardless of its legality otherwise.

 

[sleepinoz]

With the offences being proven, does that remain recorded against her name? I would imagine that because they were proven it would restrict her from being involved in OOHC's. Even if she wanted to, which I doubt.

"Judge Miiko Kumar found the four offences against the 59-year-old were "proven" "

William Tyrrell's former foster mother has conviction overturned over different child

The woman, who cannot be identified for legal reasons, successfully appealed her conviction for two counts of assault and two counts of intimidation against the different child.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Couldbe]

William Tyrrell's former foster mother has conviction overturned over different child
"She's a person whose culpability on any view must be regarded as being at a low level and one, which is strongly mitigated by as powerful [of a] subjective case as could be imagined," the judge said.
"At the time the woman spoke to a friend about the pressure she was under following William's disappearance, and Judge Kumar found she had demonstrated "genuine remorse" for the psychical assaults.
The offences arose after the home and cars of William's former foster parents were bugged by NSW Police for about a year."

JMO This appears to be indicating that also SFR have now been vindicated in respect of not removing the child concerned from the home of the Foster Carers at the time of the 'low level' assaults occurring.

 

[marv hucker]

It seems, FA's been roaming around the mid north Coast ( Taree / John's River / Herrons Creek etc ) for decades causing havoc & victims everywhere he goes.

No one seems to have ever challenged old Frankie boy as he put fear into everyone he met IMO

People got the idea (and I wonder where from?) that the cops weren’t going to do anything to him.

 

[marv hucker]

It sure seems that Unsolved Homicides can't seem to FOCUS on witnesses. FA must be loving that. We are hearing about numerous witnesses who haven't been interviewed, or have been told someone will get back to them and no-one ever does.

imo

How many days of the foster parents’ trial did the detectives attend again?

But no time to talk to witnesses, victims families or POIs.


I think the 4 recent podcasts have added not very much to WT’s case in particular, but really shone a light on a totally dysfunctional department. Across many decades. Not good.

 

[sleepinoz]

How many days of the foster parents’ trial did the detectives attend again?

But no time to talk to witnesses, victims families or POIs.


I think the 4 recent podcasts have added not very much to WT’s case in particular, but really shone a light on a totally dysfunctional department. Across many decades. Not good.

BBM - IMO that's what the podcast is about, it's not about finding William, it's about the investigation and everything around it.

Is FA protected for some reason? Not giving evidence at the Inquest, not being investigated for "all" these other crimes that have come to light. It's mind boggling.

 

[bfew]

How many days of the foster parents’ trial did the detectives attend again?

But no time to talk to witnesses, victims families or POIs.

I think the 4 recent podcasts have added not very much to WT’s case in particular, but really shone a light on a totally dysfunctional department. Across many decades. Not good.

I suspect that a key reason for there being no public inquiry into this, will be that having one will take up too much scarce Police time and resources. With the time and resources better spent investigating crimes, updating families of unsolved missing persons case and murders, Police training, and attempting to bring new IT systems, methodologies and processes in quicker and more effectively.

 

[SouthAussie]

How many days of the foster parents’ trial did the detectives attend again?

But no time to talk to witnesses, victims families or POIs.


I think the 4 recent podcasts have added not very much to WT’s case in particular, but really shone a light on a totally dysfunctional department. Across many decades. Not good.

I think that was Dan's focus for the podcasts, wasn't it? To investigate the investigation. What was done wrong. That everything was not as it seemed. Or words to that effect.

Then finally he sadly realised that grave errors have happened in so very many cases in that area.
And that there are literally dozens of families there that have no answers about what happened to their missing loved one, or who murdered their loved one.