Australia Australia - William Tyrrell Disappeared While Playing in Yard, Kendall (NSW), Sept 2014 #76

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I think MFC refers to this in the walkthrough, that WT wanted to play something and L didn't wan't a bar of it.
Most times I had the impression, MFC was handled as being absent and unknowing about all the cirumstances, when little W disappeared. BUT on the other hand he knows such tiny details: who wanted to play with whom and who not and why. I always stumble over these things.
 
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Oh! At this moment just my honest respect for the FFC! (Who would have thought.)

That's what she's like in public.
Maybe there is a guidance procedure in place for when children are being removed.

Surely it would contribute to the psychological welfare of the child/children.
 
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The foster father is also questioned about apparently deleted text messages on his phone for more than than six weeks preceding William's disappearance.

'It's noticed that during the period of (June 19 to August 3, 2014) there are no SMS messages contained in your SMS log. Why would you delete that?,' Jubelin asks.

'Is it a practice for you to delete SMS messages?'

Because I just read, that the family was in Bali from end of July to the beginning of August 2014, I for the first time wonder about the time span.
Does the fact, that a vacation took place (Bali) and messages were deleted have something to do with each other??
If the parents spent time together on vacation, they have seen each other and had less reason to talk/message with the spouse via phone, of course. But if there were much less phone contacts between the two than in Sydney, why should someone delete the messages from this time of all times?
Mysterious.
 
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Thanks, no, I was asking Kmac whether an SMH article said FCC wanted additional support for the reason that she had an additional child--not because she was abusing either or both or felt on the verge of violence.

About The West article though. She says she's so ashamed of kicking the child but it was only because she was trying to protect the younger child from being tripped. OK I'm just enraging myself reading. I need a break.

Always blame-shifting. Never the FMs fault or responsibility.

9 years of lies hidden behind a veneer of middle-class respectability.

And still one missing child.


IMO MOO
 
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She said William 'was full of life, full of energy, bouncing out of his skull with happiness and just joy of living'.

Grandma said this.
Not FM.

Always sounded like overcompensating after all the negative things they said had happened.
I haven't forgotten, that FGM also named little W "the little devil". So I'm interpreting, what she says, as TOO full of life, TOO full of energy, TOO bouncing out of his skull with happiness, TOO MUCH just joy of living. I believe, that TOO was in her mind all the time. And would have been an additional problem for her daughter FFC.
Only MOO, but.
 
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Always blame-shifting. Never the FMs fault or responsibility.

9 years of lies hidden behind a veneer of middle-class respectability.

And still one missing child.


IMO MOO
It sounds disingenuous. She's deeply ashamed, but at the same time she's a white knight for defending the weaker child. Set up for the counsellor to tell her she's too hard on herself.
 
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On the morning he vanished, he had a minor fight over a toy with another child staying in the house, had scrambled eggs and orange juice for breakfast and was throwing objects and displaying unsettled behaviour before he vanished.

Before he left, the foster father told police, William and another child 'were fighting over this toy' which was similar to a car dashboard with a steering wheel and a key, before having breakfast.

I didn't know these details. Puh, little W was indeed a handful, it seems. Can be despairing for adults; I also have compassion and not only criticism re FFC or FGM (or MFC). Though a possible criminal problem solving isn't an option, never ever.
 
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I didn't know these details. Puh, little W was indeed a handful, it seems. Can be despairing for adults; I also have compassion and not only criticism re FFC or FGM (or MFC). Though a possible criminal problem solving isn't an option, never ever.
It sounded like FFC managed him with tact over needing to wear a garment under the Spiderman suit. A lot of parents would let it become a battle of wills, ending in tears.
 
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It sounded like FFC managed him with tact over needing to wear a garment under the Spiderman suit. A lot of parents would let it become a battle of wills, ending in tears.
I know, what you mean. Hurdle is to me: When FFC tells, how skillful and loving she dealt with little W's unwillingness, I don't always trust her.
 
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It sounds disingenuous. She's deeply ashamed, but at the same time she's a white knight for defending the weaker child. Set up for the counsellor to tell her she's too hard on herself.
yes that's what I see clearly too.

She even scoffs and scolds her partner in crime (husband) as a child who is useless.
Everyone around her is the problem.

Not her.
 
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That's what she's like in public.
Which is why she has such a staunch group of supporters I think. Just really great PR
 
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New Free Article

On Friday, the foster mother’s barrister John Stratton SC attempted to have a majority of the charges against his client thrown out.

He argued five of the six allegations of intimidation - which constitute the two intimidation charges - did not meet the criteria of the offences.

One of the counts of intimidation related to an incident during which the foster mother refused to wash the child’s clothes and made them do it themselves amid an argument over the child’s behaviour.

The foster mother chastised the child because their clothes smelled “putrid” and told them to not “act like a homeless person”, the court heard.

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Magistrate Susan McIntyre said there was a “prima facie case” to answer on all the charges and it could be argued that all of the woman’s statements caused the child to fear mental or physical harm.


The matter will now return to court in December for closing submissions before Ms McIntyre hands down her judgment at a later date.

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New Free Article

On Friday, the foster mother’s barrister John Stratton SC attempted to have a majority of the charges against his client thrown out.

He argued five of the six allegations of intimidation - which constitute the two intimidation charges - did not meet the criteria of the offences.

One of the counts of intimidation related to an incident during which the foster mother refused to wash the child’s clothes and made them do it themselves amid an argument over the child’s behaviour.

The foster mother chastised the child because their clothes smelled “putrid” and told them to not “act like a homeless person”, the court heard.

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Magistrate Susan McIntyre said there was a “prima facie case” to answer on all the charges and it could be argued that all of the woman’s statements caused the child to fear mental or physical harm.

The matter will now return to court in December for closing submissions before Ms McIntyre hands down her judgment at a later date.


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oh my goodness.

FM refuse to wash her clothes and then berate and insult her for being smelly.

I just can't with this 🤬🤬🤬. :mad:
 
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It sounds disingenuous. She's deeply ashamed, but at the same time she's a white knight for defending the weaker child. Set up for the counsellor to tell her she's too hard on herself.

yes that's what I see clearly too.

She even scoffs and scolds her partner in crime (husband) as a child who is useless.
Everyone around her is the problem.

Not her.
Classic symptom of a narcissistic personality.
From my limited experience with a narcissist, they only want to put themselves out for someone if they have an audience to witness it,
 
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From my limited experience with one, they only want to put themselves out for someone if they have an audience to witness it,
She wanted to go down the mental illness route but was denied.

Wonder where it would have taken it????
 
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She wanted to go down the mental illness route but was denied.

Wonder where it would have taken it????
Blame her Mother:

“FM was diagnosed with major depressive disorder and PTSD, and some of her mental ill-health relates to the “difficult relationship she had with her mother and the loss of her mother in most recent years … in fairly difficult circumstances,” he said.”

William Tyrrell’s foster mother denied mental health application over alleged assault of young girl
 
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