Australia Australia - William Tyrrell Disappeared While Playing in Yard, Kendall (NSW), Sept 2014 #76

[Awakening]

I doubt it. That ruling applies to privacy restrictions relating to fostered children.

However, as I've said here before, the more nefarious this pair becomes with their numerous court cases, the more likely IMO that more and more places on the Web will start naming them, especially outside of Oz.

As I understand it the privacy on their names is no longer about them being foster parents but because of threats against their lives. I seem to recall a judge saying something along the lines of that.

 

[SouthAussie]

As I understand it the privacy on their names is no longer about them being foster parents but because of threats against their lives. I seem to recall a judge saying something along the lines of that.

I think there are two NPOs, at least that is the impression that I have. One NPO by the Coroner re: foster care naming restrictions, and another by a magistrate due to threats and harassment.

As well, there was name suppression in the court case about disclosing William as a foster child.

imo

 

[mussopossum]

Could this be what really happened to William???? “Time out“ on the high verandah???

I’m sorry, but this is not acceptable for a 2 year old! I try and be neutral in my comments, but I find this type of behaviour quite shocking!

All IMO

I wonder the same thing Slouth...

A scenario of MO..

William might have been misbehaving or pushing the FM buttons that morning.

Might she have used his fear of heights to put him on the verandah rail and either sit him there for time out and left him.. and he fell or she held him there and told him she would leave him there, he struggled in her grasp and he fell.. and died.

That would be a good enough reason for them to lie about him being missing and not be honest about what really happened. AMOO

 

[mussopossum]

oh my goodness.

FM refuse to wash her clothes and then berate and insult her for being smelly.

I just can't with this .

I was with a guy for 4 years who used to set me up to fail just so he could be little me and tear me down. He would ask me to do things that he knew I had no idea how to do (such as using an electric saw and cutting something to a degree only a skilled trades could do) or would make me feel like im going crazy because of his lies and dishonesty by making me out as the one with the problem and not him.

Living in this environment does damage. I was so terrified of him that when he tried to get me up to a local headland for an apparent special moment, I was convinced he was going to push me off and kill me. Living in fear of your next punishment is horrible,

I can only imagine how damaged this poor girl is.

 

[nightrider17]

I am also thinking like others have in the past - the hand injury FM sustained also may have played a part in her slipping into a more reactionary mode. Just my opinion.


All the morning activities that were testing her parenting- crashing the bike, fighting over toys etc and the hand injury contributed to her making decisions that placed WT in harms way - time out - or disciplinary moment that got out of hand. MOO

I also find it interesting she had in mentioned some discord between her mother and her in the past and I sense that this would also manifest in tensions that morning. She probably didn't want her mother judging her parenting skills. Just My opinion on why it may have been a really difficult morning for FM.

 

[Burtrito]

Car rides with kids can be testing at the best of times. I wonder if tensions were high the night prior… that stop a few minutes from McDonald’s on the road, in the dark… that’s always stood out as unusual imo.

 

[JLZ]

This article from the Sydney Morning Herald is somewhat different to what was portrayed by the ABC …..


Earlier on Friday, the court heard the foster parents had provided emergency and short-term care for numerous children over the years, including seven children between 2017 and 2021.

Adam McMahon, a foster care support worker with the Department of Communities and Justice, agreed that the husband and wife were considered reliable and trustworthy carers who were often called upon to help out when the department was in a jam.

McMahon said he went to the foster parents’ house in 2012 for a home visit and discovered the mother was using an “exclusionary time out” for a two-year-old child in her care, which involved placing them outside. He said this method was not endorsed by the department"

Magistrate rejects attempt by Tyrrell foster mother to have charges thrown out

The woman, who cannot be named, is accused of intimidating a child who is not the missing toddler between January and August 2021. She has pleaded not guilty.

www.smh.com.au

I love it that William's sister locked FFC out of the house. I'm now thinking that that suggests that FFC had continued to use outside timeouts at least for older children.

 

[Couldbe]

Car rides with kids can be testing at the best of times. I wonder if tensions were high the night prior… that stop a few minutes from McDonald’s on the road, in the dark… that’s always stood out as unusual imo.

Burtrito, how would you then link something from that stop with the 5 photos including the iconic one?

 

[Burtrito]

Burtrito, how would you then link something from that stop with the 5 photos including the iconic one?

I would say different incidents, different days… in light of the recent media reports perhaps discipline was required… perhaps it was just a stop to put pull ups on.
The photo is the photo, there’s no contesting that.

 

[Couldbe]

I would say different incidents, different days… in light of the recent media reports perhaps discipline was required… perhaps it was just a stop to put pull ups on.
The photo is the photo, there’s no contesting that.

Okay, thankyou; I was wondering if you might be inferring that William might not have actually made it to 48 Benaroon alive and the Macca CCTV might have been the last 'proof of life'.

 

[FromGermany1]

also find it interesting she had in mentioned some discord between her mother and her in the past and I sense that this would also manifest in tensions that morning. She probably didn't want her mother judging her parenting skills. Just My opinion on why it may have been a really difficult morning for FM.

^^ This!

 

[FromGermany1]

I wonder the same thing Slouth...

A scenario of MO..

William might have been misbehaving or pushing the FM buttons that morning.

Might she have used his fear of heights to put him on the verandah rail and either sit him there for time out and left him.. and he fell or she held him there and told him she would leave him there, he struggled in her grasp and he fell.. and died.

That would be a good enough reason for them to lie about him being missing and not be honest about what really happened. AMOO

Under these conditions I perhaps can imagine a "balcony fall" indeed, although I always thought, it would be impossible.
In favor of that would speak, that the location would have out of sight and hearing of FGM, when FFC perhaps disciplined little W in the sharpest way.

 

[k-mac]

If the only thing that comes away from this is her name and picture out publically just like every other criminal out there.

I can live with it.

Everything else coming her way will just be bonus.

 

[k-mac]

I am also thinking like others have in the past - the hand injury FM sustained also may have played a part in her slipping into a more reactionary mode. Just my opinion.


All the morning activities that were testing her parenting- crashing the bike, fighting over toys etc and the hand injury contributed to her making decisions that placed WT in harms way - time out - or disciplinary moment that got out of hand. MOO

I also find it interesting she had in mentioned some discord between her mother and her in the past and I sense that this would also manifest in tensions that morning. She probably didn't want her mother judging her parenting skills. Just My opinion on why it may have been a really difficult morning for FM.

oh yes the hand injury.

redflag #3

 

[Couldbe]

oh yes the hand injury.

redflag #3

Making some space in the black garbage bag under the balcony .... by removing some garden waste?

 

[mussopossum]

I love it that William's sister locked FFC out of the house. I'm now thinking that that suggests that FFC had continued to use outside timeouts at least for older children.

Would certainly have been a sight for the neighbours

 

[Awakening]

I am also thinking like others have in the past - the hand injury FM sustained also may have played a part in her slipping into a more reactionary mode. Just my opinion.


All the morning activities that were testing her parenting- crashing the bike, fighting over toys etc and the hand injury contributed to her making decisions that placed WT in harms way - time out - or disciplinary moment that got out of hand. MOO

I also find it interesting she had in mentioned some discord between her mother and her in the past and I sense that this would also manifest in tensions that morning. She probably didn't want her mother judging her parenting skills. Just My opinion on why it may have been a really difficult morning for FM.

I wonder if they ever took a photo of the injury to her hand?

 

[bearbear]

Would certainly have been a sight for the neighbours

i wonder what happened when she got back inside?
rage and embarrasment!!

 

[k-mac]

i wonder what happened when she got back inside?
rage and embarrasment!!

Right BB
Gotta wonder what these kids endured while nobody watched.

The little window of surveillance we have witnessed is pretty disgusting.

Poor little William xx

 

[JLZ]

I understand foster parents have to take some preliminary training.

Is there any training for foster children--perhaps from the time they're school age--to teach them about their rights and what to do if they think their foster parents are abusing them? Is there anything they can do, without making things worse for themselves? I do not believe police would have helped William's sister if they had not had their own agenda.