awaiting sentencing phase

[PrimeSuspect]

Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman 12m12 minutes ago
#OscarPistorius #EWN

Exclusive tomorrow - the athlete’s last call on 13 Feb before arriving home to Reeva - who is BabyShoes? #BehindTheDoor

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Apologies if this has been posted before, it's pretty good if you want to hear the two sounds.

Oscar Pistorius murder trial: gunshot sound vs a cricket bat
Shooting incident analyst Alexander Jason runs an experiment to test the sound of a cricket bat hitting a door versus that of a gunshot.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...der-trial-gunshot-sound-vs-a-cricket-bat.html

 

[vanatos]

Isn't there like two or more books just waiting to be released that incriminates oscar further?

sure seem's like all the people being silent on pistorius' real personality, are letting rip.

 

[foxbluff]

I'm searching FG for information about Reeva's top. :lookingitup: and the bloodied white shirt? Why wasn't he photographed with it on? :thinking:

Wow... I must have skipped a page here... this is the first I've heard of a white shirt... that's curious. I was just reading from Roux's HoA where he mentioned that RS was wearing a black top and OP was not wearing a shirt...

I had thought at one time that OP must have been wearing a shirt as he didn't have blood on his chest and upper arms in the photo taken of him in the garage as I would have expected he would have from carrying Reeva downstairs.

It worries me that the police didn't take a inventory on Feb. 14th...

 

[foxbluff]

14:13 - VR says OP wasn't wearing a bloody shirt, he never wore a shirt that night. Botha said OP was wearing a bloody shirt.

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Oscar_Pistorius/Live/LIVE-UPDATES-Pistorius-trial-Day-10-20140314

Botha says OP was wearing a shirt, yet he photographed him without one?

Oh boy... perhaps it'll turn up on Ebay some day...

 

[jay-jay]

Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman 12m12 minutes ago
#OscarPistorius #EWN

Exclusive tomorrow - the athlete’s last call on 13 Feb before arriving home to Reeva - who is BabyShoes? #BehindTheDoor

 

[foxbluff]

His bad temper goes back quite some time, and probably much further than this. Shirley Martin wrote this letter to News24 which was published on 3 November 2011. If you haven't read it, you should.

I had the unfortunate opportunity of finding out first hand how unheroic Oscar can be in real life when he has had too much to drink.

I was at the Kings of Leon concert on Friday night with my fiancé, my best friend and her husband. An exceptionally drunk and incredibly rude Oscar Pistorius was also there. Unfortunately he seemed to be far too comfortable with being both drunk and rude than one would have liked for one of our "heroes".

http://www.news24.com/MyNews24/Oscar-Pistorius-Hero-or-Hooligan-20111103

IMO they'd both make great witnesses.

<snipped for space> I, too, like that this article was written back in Nov. 2011 rather than after Feb. 2013 as it adds more credence to her story imo... it would have been stronger yet if she hadn't mentioned thinking he might be unsteady on his blades when they first saw him fall into a group of people.

The attached image didn't appear with the article... who is that a picture of? I know it's not OP... is it a pic of the story's writer Shirley?

 

[WilliamMunter]

Barry Bateman &#8207;@barrybateman 6 minutes ago

#OscarPistorius #EWN Exclusive tomorrow - how’d a PC named Titanium Hulk thwart SAPS efforts to study Oscar’s locked iPhone? #BehindTheDoor

Very interesting. Titaniumhulk is a name used by...suprise suprise... Carl Pistorius

http://carlpistorius.org

 

[foxbluff]

Barry Bateman &#8207;@barrybateman 12m12 minutes ago
#OscarPistorius #EWN

Exclusive tomorrow - the athlete’s last call on 13 Feb before arriving home to Reeva - who is BabyShoes? #BehindTheDoor

I thought OP was still talking to his brother Carl when he entered the Silverwoods security gates at 6:10 PM. I can't picture Carl being "BabyShoes" can you?

 

[lithgow1]

I thought OP was still talking to his brother Carl when he entered the Silverwoods security gates at 6:10 PM. I can't picture Carl being "BabyShoes" can you?

Ha ha - given what this forum is about it's good to have a laugh occasionally, especially at the expense of a member of the creepy clan. I'll now always think of him as Carl 'BabyShoes' Pistorius. Hippity skippity day!

 

[sleuth-d-]

I thought OP was still talking to his brother Carl when he entered the Silverwoods security gates at 6:10 PM. I can't picture Carl being "BabyShoes" can you?

he was talking to 'alex pilakoutas' according to mr fossil's phone usage chart... before that there was an unknown call though...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...3T2HJw45EQmViabBCh5OSew4Y/edit#gid=1420993443

 

[soozieqtips]

he was talking to 'alex pilakoutas' according to mr fossil's phone usage chart... before that there was an unknown call though...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...3T2HJw45EQmViabBCh5OSew4Y/edit#gid=1420993443

This guy?


Alex Pilakoutas @AlexPilakoutas · Sep 11

People need to remember this judgement is by 3 people, the verdict is not just that of Masipa, there is a reason YOU are all not judges.

https://twitter.com/AlexPilakoutas

 

[WilliamMunter]

The plot thickens: http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Oscar_Pistorius/Mystery-Oscar-statement-pre-empts-report-20141002

Mystery Oscar statement issued
Johannesburg - A press statement was issued by Paralympian Oscar Pistorius's family and legal team on Wednesday in attempt to forestall a pending news report, apparently relating to electronic communications devices.

 

[soozieqtips]

The plot thickens: http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Oscar_Pistorius/Mystery-Oscar-statement-pre-empts-report-20141002

Hmm. I wonder if the story will be suppressed. If there's nothing in it that the family thinks is relevant
to the trial, why try and stop it coming out? More secrets and lies?

"We are not sure of the allegations which are to be made or the source of such allegations, but we are not aware of any deletions having been affected by Oscar or effected on his instructions that could be relevant to this trial or could have impacted on this trial," they said.

 

[Cherwell]

<snipped for space> I, too, like that this article was written back in Nov. 2011 rather than after Feb. 2013 as it adds more credence to her story imo... it would have been stronger yet if she hadn't mentioned thinking he might be unsteady on his blades when they first saw him fall into a group of people.

That's a silly mistake a lot of people make even now. Most people would only picture him as an athlete, and just don't think it through.

 

[JudgeJudi]

<snipped for space> I, too, like that this article was written back in Nov. 2011 rather than after Feb. 2013 as it adds more credence to her story imo... it would have been stronger yet if she hadn't mentioned thinking he might be unsteady on his blades when they first saw him fall into a group of people.

The attached image didn't appear with the article... who is that a picture of? I know it's not OP... is it a pic of the story's writer Shirley?

That was a photo of Francois I uplifted from an identical article published elsewhere. Hahaha, so you now know it's not Shirley but he's very feminine looking, very.

 

[Mr Fossil]

he was talking to 'alex pilakoutas' according to mr fossil's phone usage chart... before that there was an unknown call though...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...3T2HJw45EQmViabBCh5OSew4Y/edit#gid=1420993443

He talked to Carl twice, at 17:36 (Carl calls him) and 18:47.

There are calls to two unknown numbers just before arriving home. I've assumed these are unimportant because they weren't identified in court. The police would have known who the numbers belonged to and discounted them e.g. they could be OP's physio and dentist. Perhaps I'm wrong.

He tries the (5860) number three times on his way home. The first time he gets cut off after 3 secs, the second call fails and the third lasts 1m41s. He also tries (7211) twice. Again, the first call gets cut off after 3 seconds, the second connects for 6m47s.

 

[sleuth-d-]

He talked to Carl twice, at 17:36 and 18:47

re: the chart... reeva's phone is still connected to the shere tower until 18:28, even after she has returned to silverwoods? what is your thinking there?

 

[Mr Fossil]

re: the chart... reeva's phone is still connected to the shere tower until 18:28, even after she has returned to silverwoods? what is your thinking there?

I noticed this too hence my note re the lag. Switching towers depends on relative signal strength and capacity at the time amongst other things. Negotiation sorts this out. It shows that the timing of a cell tower switch is not a perfect indicator of location at an absolute point in time. That said, the delay does seem excessive given that Reeva returned to Silver Woods at 18:00.

I'm also aware (from preparing the data) that a call can start on a different cell tower to an existing GPRS link, the duration of which appears to span the call time, after which the GPRS link changes. I think this may simply be a function of how the provider reports the usage e.g. if a call starts and it connects using a different cell tower to GPRS the change isn't reported from a GPRS perspective and the GPRS duration includes the new cell tower connection (call) time. But we can see it has changed because the call shows us the new cell tower. Calls only ever show one cell tower even though a person (in a car) may be moving through various cells. This is definitely a reporting 'feature'.

 

[sleuth-d-]

I noticed this too hence my note re the lag. Switching towers depends on relative signal strength and capacity at the time amongst other things. Negotiation sorts this out. It shows that the timing of a cell tower switch is not a perfect indicator of location at an absolute point in time. That said, the delay does seem excessive given that Reeva returned to Silver Woods at 18:00.

I'm also aware (from preparing the data) that a call can start on a different cell tower to an existing GPRS link, the duration of which appears to span the call time, after which the GPRS link changes. I think this may simply be a function of how the provider reports the usage e.g. if a call starts and it connects using a different cell tower to GPRS the change isn't reported from a GPRS perspective and the duration includes the new cell tower connection time. But we can see it has changed because the call shows us the new cell tower. Calls only ever show one cell tower even though a person (in a car) may be moving through various cells. This is definitely a reporting 'feature'.

thanks for that.
so it is possible that op's phone woke to a strong[er] sphere signal [or better capacity] at 06:54, before switching to the silverlakes tower. it was only on the sphere tower for 30 seconds... maybe it wasn't removed from the house at this time after all?