AZ AZ - Adrienne Salinas, 19, Tempe , 15 June 2013 - #1

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  • #161
IMO Adrienne's case, like many other cases here, needs more media attention ASAP!!!
 
  • #162
Anyone or anything standing out to you mamacita?

not necessarily. i looked at the 3 that were closest to where she was last seen, but i need to go back in and broaden my search. ill let you know! :)
 
  • #163
I have been studying the map for a while now, and still don't have an answer for the cab meeting spot on Hardy and University. The cab company's owner said his son was the driver who took the call and is cooperating with police etc. It just seems so odd that Adrienne would pick that spot to meet a cab when her bf's place is just a few blocks on the same road that she parked her car on. And aside from the initial report, I haven't seen anything about the witness who saw her crash her car and speed away. However, I do believe that it was Adrienne who called the cab company, or someone she was with who called. And to clarify-if there was someone she was with, was an aquaintence, not a stranger. I don't believe a stranger predator who was out that night, and who lucked into finding a distraught, possibly drunk girl who crashed her car to kidnap, would call a cab and pretend to be her. Further, since LE has not said otherwise, I assume it would be her voice that the cab dispatcher heard and not a male's voice. Also, her car was locked and her overnight bag was gone. Now it can rightly argued that the perp took that and locked the car along with Adrienne, however, to me, it seems unlikely. So I'm leaning toward a random predator coming into contact at 5 a.m. with her to be unlikely. Whatever happened to her, it had something to do with a person or persons who had previous contact with her that night. In a two-block span, this girl vanished, it was not random.
 
  • #164
I have been studying the map for a while now, and still don't have an answer for the cab meeting spot on Hardy and University. The cab company's owner said his son was the driver who took the call and is cooperating with police etc. It just seems so odd that Adrienne would pick that spot to meet a cab when her bf's place is just a few blocks on the same road that she parked her car on. And aside from the initial report, I haven't seen anything about the witness who saw her crash her car and speed away. However, I do believe that it was Adrienne who called the cab company, or someone she was with who called. And to clarify-if there was someone she was with, was an aquaintence, not a stranger. I don't believe a stranger predator who was out that night, and who lucked into finding a distraught, possibly drunk girl who crashed her car to kidnap, would call a cab and pretend to be her. Further, since LE has not said otherwise, I assume it would be her voice that the cab dispatcher heard and not a male's voice. Also, her car was locked and her overnight bag was gone. Now it can rightly argued that the perp took that and locked the car along with Adrienne, however, to me, it seems unlikely. So I'm leaning toward a random predator coming into contact at 5 a.m. with her to be unlikely. Whatever happened to her, it had something to do with a person or persons who had previous contact with her that night. In a two-block span, this girl vanished, it was not random.


Her BF's house is not down the block. It is a few miles away, too many to imagine her trying to walk at that hour with an overnight bag in tow. her apartment was a couple of blocks away however.
 
  • #165
Her BF's house is not down the block. It is a few miles away, too many to imagine her trying to walk at that hour with an overnight bag in tow. her apartment was a couple of blocks away however.

Apologies, on the map posted on page 4 of the thread, it looks like her bf's apartment is another two blocks down on Roosevelt and then onto University. Maybe it seems closer than it actually is. LE haven't released the info, but looking at the map, at the intersection where she was to meet the cab, there is auto parts store and another convenient store with a 'K' on it, not sure if that's AMPM gas station or not. Surely, one of these places had to have a camera. I just cannot get around why she would want the cab to meet her there. Only things I can think of possibly being would be it's a big intersection, good landmark, or she needed cash to pay the cab fare and wanted to hit an atm somewhere
 
  • #166
(eta....OK sorry, I am def dense, I found it) Maybe I am dense... what map shows the boyfriend's house?

One reason she may not have been able to walk far if she was even slightly injured may be because she had a rib fracture which caused a lung collapse in January and it was a long recovery.
 
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My apologies, I see my error...the difference with blue and purple for on the map was non-existant. Now I see her bf's place. Anyway, it is still the opposite direction from where she went to get the cab
 
  • #169
I can't believe media isn't on this story more! Amazed, actually.

SBM: The Tempe PD is working this case, have no fear. Just because the media isn't privy to everything does not mean they are not working this case. My guess (ok, my sincere hope anyway) is the details are being held close to the vest for a reason. There must be a reason they are not releasing more info, right? And interesting about the reward money, that no other organization has stepped up yet, not even Rio Salado, where she was a student.
 
  • #170
SBM: The Tempe PD is working this case, have no fear. Just because the media isn't privy to everything does not mean they are not working this case. My guess (ok, my sincere hope anyway) is the details are being held close to the vest for a reason. There must be a reason they are not releasing more info, right? And interesting about the reward money, that no other organization has stepped up yet, not even Rio Salado, where she was a student.

I'm hoping you're right, and we see it often with LE in missing person's cases. I'm hoping they have some information or evidence that can begin to explain things more clearly, and they are actively pursuing it.

There is a concern about why the FB page set up for her is not as active as maybe it could be. But who knows, could be any reason
 
  • #171
So if she was going to walk to where she was suppose to meet the cab, then why didn't she just head back in the direction of her apartment? When she hit the median, why didn't she take the direct route back to her apartment?? Her route as it's been reported makes no sense to me.

Looking back in this thread, this is an important post and should be looked into further. Her route and actions after the accident make little sense to me either when looking at the map. Neither does the time frame.
 
  • #172
My apologies, I see my error...the difference with blue and purple for on the map was non-existant. Now I see her bf's place. Anyway, it is still the opposite direction from where she went to get the cab

No need to apologize, I figured it was something like that and I just wanted to help you out. There is obviously tons of information we are missing. Not very much of it makes sense as it stands now.

What time did the party end at her apartment? What time did she really leave?

Was she intoxicated, was she high? I am in no way trying to be disparaging, but she did make references to smoking weed on her own FB page.

If she were under the influence, that would fit in line with getting into a 1 vehicle accident, and would also be motivation to flee the scene, then ditch the car.

My guess is that that is the most likely scenario in regards to the crash, and could explain why she would flee the scene, then ditch her car. If she didn't want anyone to know about it, she probably wouldn't want to go back to her apartment. Perhaps that is why she called a cab and she said to meet at the convenience store she knew was close to her location. Did she ever make it there? I agree there would have to be some footage proving she either did or did not.

What were her and her bf fighting about? Did he have a car? Could he have left to get her? Was he aware that she was coming over? Why didn't he report anything...or did he?

I am hoping that she is hiding out somewhere with friends out of fear of getting busted for the crash....and now out of fear due to the attention she has received. I do not think her disappearance has any connection to the body found.
 
  • #173
I also heard on the news today that the PD is re-interviewing people from the party, etc. I assume this includes the BF, and hopefully that roommate. Great questions JB.
 
  • #174
So many angles / possibilities right now...
 
  • #175
No need to apologize, I figured it was something like that and I just wanted to help you out. There is obviously tons of information we are missing. Not very much of it makes sense as it stands now.

What time did the party end at her apartment? What time did she really leave?

Was she intoxicated, was she high? I am in no way trying to be disparaging, but she did make references to smoking weed on her own FB page.

If she were under the influence, that would fit in line with getting into a 1 vehicle accident, and would also be motivation to flee the scene, then ditch the car.

My guess is that that is the most likely scenario in regards to the crash, and could explain why she would flee the scene, then ditch her car. If she didn't want anyone to know about it, she probably wouldn't want to go back to her apartment. Perhaps that is why she called a cab and she said to meet at the convenience store she knew was close to her location. Did she ever make it there? I agree there would have to be some footage proving she either did or did not.

What were her and her bf fighting about? Did he have a car? Could he have left to get her? Was he aware that she was coming over? Why didn't he report anything...or did he?

I am hoping that she is hiding out somewhere with friends out of fear of getting busted for the crash....and now out of fear due to the attention she has received. I do not think her disappearance has any connection to the body found.


Thanks. I agree with you on every point you made. It would make sense for her to call the cab and have the cab meet her at a distance that is away from her wrecked car if she was impaired somehow. Except that would mean either her friends or bf would've picked her up bc she never got in the cab. And directly after she called the cab, her phone turned off. So it's possible she called the cab, then got a last second text from her bf or someone saying they would pick her up. LE has stated they have interviewed the bf and cleared him, and I'm hoping if she did go into hiding because of the car crash and ensuing attention now, she's ok. It wouldn't be the best decision for her, but I know I certainly didn't make all the right decisions when I was 19 either.
 
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If she had the accident, drove back in the direction of her apartment, and called a cab to meet near her apartment, then why in the heck did they search the water? The water is closer to where she had the accident and is a good ways from where her car and last known location was. Do they think she walked to the water and fell in? The timeline doesn't add up for something like that to happen.

Personally, I don't think she is in the water. It's hot there, and the warmer the water, the less likely she would stay submerged. I would be looking into the cab driver, as well as confiscating security cameras in the area to see if any suspicious cars drove by. I would also try to correspond any suspicious cars in Adrienne's area with video footage of cars in the area where the body was dumped.
 
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Thanks. I agree with you on every point you made. It would make sense for her to call the cab and have the cab meet her at a distance that is away from her wrecked car if she was impaired somehow. Except that would mean either her friends or bf would've picked her up bc she never got in the cab. And directly after she called the cab, her phone turned off. So it's possible she called the cab, then got a last second text from her bf or someone saying they would pick her up. LE has stated they have interviewed the bf and cleared him, and I'm hoping if she did go into hiding because of the car crash and ensuing attention now, she's ok. It wouldn't be the best decision for her, but I know I certainly didn't make all the right decisions when I was 19 either.

One reason she may have requested that the cab meet her at the ampm instead of where she was was bc she might have decided that she didn't feel safe stranded and waiting where she was for the taxi, that maybe she wanted to keep moving and anticipated that by the time she reached the ampm, her taxi would arrive in perfect timing. (I've actually done this before myself)...Also, maybe she thought it would be easier for the taxi to find her at this location. Also, if the taxi was delayed, at least she would be in a safer, public, better lit location?
 
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