AZ AZ - Adrienne Salinas, 19, Tempe , 15 June 2013 - #1

[2Hip2BSquare]

How can you have a suspect if you don't even have a body? It would seem ludicrous to me for police to state that a person is even a person of interest if they have no body and no evidence of a crime.

So even if they suspected that someone might have had something to do with her disappearance I don't think they would or perhaps COULD indicate they suspected them.

So far there is only an abandoned vehicle, phone calls to a boyfriend, call for a taxi but no showed and a text to boyfriend saying she was coming over.

There is no evidence yet of any kind of foul play.

She could still be alive somewhere....

Regardless if LE say people are innocent, they are innocent.

If they still thought there was a chance that the cabbie knew anything about Adrienne's disappearance or had anything to do with it, they would say he is still a person of interest.

They maintain he is not.

I would venture to assume the FBI know much more than we do at this point and I don't believe they would provide some of their more advanced search and rescue and investigative resources for a case not involving foul play of some sort.

 

[MissDemeanor]

I am wondering if she might have called another taxi company to pick her up if she was running late and missed the first one or simply changed her mind about walking to the AM/PM. In her emotional state of mind she might have been afraid to tell the driver she wasn't coming and rather than get in an argument with him just said she would be there in a minute and then turned her phone off so he couldn't call her back.

I wonder if LE is checking with other cab companies to see if they picked up a fare in her general location around that time and if so where they took her.

 

[MissDemeanor]

Regardless if LE say people are innocent, they are innocent.

If they still thought there was a chance that the cabbie knew anything about Adrienne's disappearance or had anything to do with it, they would say he is still a person of interest.

They maintain he is not.

Oh is that right? They would call him a person of interest? I didn't know that. But FYI...my post had nothing whatsoever to do with what you had posted. I was going to post that before you even posted what you did.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

I am wondering if she might have called another taxi company to pick her up if she was running late and missed the first one or simply changed her mind about walking to the AM/PM. In her emotional state of mind she might have been afraid to tell the driver she wasn't coming and rather than get in an argument with him just said she would be there in a minute and then turned her phone off so he couldn't call her back.

I wonder if LE is checking with other cab companies to see if they picked up a fare in her general location around that time and if so where they took her.

This is possible.

Do you think the first cabbie said he was charging her fare for the amount of time he was waiting on her?

Do you think that perhaps she was worried he would try and charge her a fare for making him wait and instead blew him off? Maybe as you said , calling another cab company to pick her up?

I would think that other company would have been tracked down by now using her phone, then again maybe she used a friends phone to call the new company?

And like you said, yes I wonder if they checked all other tempe cabbie companies inbound calls during that time.

 

[Dixie811]

Adrienne's case is giving me such a bad feeling because I am getting a mixture of reminders of both the Lauren Spierer and Maura Murray cases here (different elements of each). Both Lauren and Maura remain missing after such a long time... I hope Adrienne is found SOON. And of course, I hope she is found alive & safe.

 

[MissDemeanor]

This is possible.

Do you think the first cabbie said he was charging her fare for the amount of time he was waiting on her?

Do you think that perhaps she was worried he would try and charge her a fare for making him wait and instead blew him off? Maybe as you said , calling another can company to pick her up?

Yes that's a possibility too. I would imagine their clock starts clicking the minute they arrive at the pickup place. But I don't know for certain. I understand that there are a lot of no shows.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Yes that's a possibility too. I would imagine their clock starts clicking the minute they arrive at the pickup place. But I don't know for certain. I understand that there are a lot of no shows.

Hey miss, I edited that post after you replied and added some other ideas to your theory.

Please consider.

Thank you.

 

[AndiLA]

LE does not always publicly identify their POI(s). I've seen many cases where LE has maintained there are no leads/suspects/POI and bam! There's an arrest. They only release info to the public that will not compromise the integrity of their investigation. They very well could have a POI and just aren't disclosing that info.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Did you say that you know the area? I was wondering what the complex is like.

Not in terms of safety but what is the complex like. How many floors, do they have balconies etc...

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I think Miss Demeanor was the person who used to live in the same complex as Adrienne, right Miss?

Might want to refer to her on this specific location.

I know of the building as I lived in Tempe and ventured through the area almost daily, but never lived in the complex like Miss Demeanor.

(I hope I'm referencing the correct user)?

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

I would say the area around Adrienne's complex is more creepy than unsafe. *edited

It was more so about how dark it got at night when driving around there. And the fact it was so close to Rio Salado prkw (dark creepy by the water) and all those creepy liquor stores and convenience stores near university and Hardy as well as university and Ash (transients and drunks around these stores too often). Yes police often are called to deal with it.

But it's not like it's the hood or anything where these things are common and happen all the time.

This is very uncommon for Tempe in general IMHO ... Both Adrienne's disappearance and Begay's body being dropped in the Rd.

 

[gngr~snap]

I wouldn't say it's creepy for so much being unsafe IMO where Adrienne lived

It was more so about how dark it got at night when driving around there. And the fact it was so close to Rio Salado prkw and all those creepy liquor stores and convenience stores (transients and drunks around these stores too often). Yes police often are called to deal with it.

But it's not like it's the hood or anything where these things are common and happen all the time.

This is very uncommon for Tempe in general IMHO ... Both Adrienne's disappearance and Begay's body being dropped in the Ed.

Thanks!

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[MissDemeanor]

I think Miss Demeanor was the person who used to live in the same complex as Adrienne, right Miss?

Might want to refer to her on this specific location.

I know of the building as I lived in Tempe and ventured through the area almost daily, but never lived in the complex like Miss Demeanor.

(I hope I'm referencing the correct user)?

No that was another poster called: RockfordPeach who posted a nice interesting post today. She seems to know the area very well. I don't know much about it at all but honestly I am surprised the area is being described as being so shady and dangerous with all the ASU students who live around there.

This is very enlightening.

 

[Tonto]

Yes, please post the address of the apartment complex. Please. It is very important to those of us looking at aerial maps to try to put the puzzle together. I don't see the big deal in posting an entire complex's address. I mean, if it was a house or duplex or something quaint, then perhaps I could see someone having reservations. But this?

Anyway, someone mentioned a potential panic attack or another health issue that may have accelerated a condition related to a prior lung collapse. While this is a plausible theory, I'm not ready to say a 'good' theory as yet. The only reason I'm hesitant to consider it is that I feel that she would have been found already if this was the case.

I'm pretty sure something sinister occurred. It's just that looking at all of the information and potential misinformation makes it virtually impossible to hone in on a cogent and collectively agreed upon theory. That's why our ideas are so varied.

 

[gngr~snap]

Okay. It sounds like a lot of students do live there. So a Saturday night party would not be unusual.

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[MissDemeanor]

Hey miss, I edited that post after you replied and added some other ideas to your theory.

Please consider.

Thank you.

Oh thanks. I finally found it. It didn't say you had edited it so I had a bit of a time.

Here's what you added and I quote in bold:


I would think that other company would have been tracked down by now using her phone, then again maybe she used a friends phone to call the new company?

And like you said, yes I wonder if they checked all other tempe cabbie companies inbound calls during that time.
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I would think if she used her phone to call another cab company we would already know about it. So she either didn't call another one or she went somewhere else and used a pay phone or someone's land line. I suppose there are all kinds of possibilities other than that she was abducted.

I do agree with you about the fact that the cops know more than they are telling us and might not be doing such an extensive search otherwise.

I was actually surprised when they searched the lake so soon after she went missing based on the lack of evidence they didn't supply us with.

PS.... Can you please slow down so I can catch up? haha

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Oh thanks. I finally found it. It didn't say you had edited it so I had a bit of a time.

Here's what you added and I quote in bold:


I would think that other company would have been tracked down by now using her phone, then again maybe she used a friends phone to call the new company?

And like you said, yes I wonder if they checked all other tempe cabbie companies inbound calls during that time.
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I would think if she used her phone to call another cab company we would already know about it. So she either didn't call another one or she went somewhere else and used a pay phone or someone's land line. I suppose there are all kinds of possibilities other than that she was abducted.

I do agree with you about the fact that the cops know more than they are telling us and might not be doing such an extensive search otherwise.

I was actually surprised when they searched the lake so soon after she went missing based on the lack of evidence they didn't supply us with.

PS.... Can you please slow down so I can catch up? haha

Lol sorry! I'm so ADD today. I'm on type vomit (word vomit lol) mode.


I agree their searching the lake so soon after disappearance seemed ominous at best.... Ugh.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

And yeah I use tap a talk app for my iPhone so it never lets others know when I edit my posts (usually editing is due to this auto text thinking its miss Cleo and knows everything im about to type/say...)

 

[MissDemeanor]

I haven't tried my iPhone yet. Guess that will be next. Thanks so much.

I'm out of here now for today. Very interesting reading all the varying theories and feeling the frustration everyone has regarding so many discrepancies and lack of information in this case.

I can only say....I am still holding out hope that she will turn up somewhere, safe and alive.

Have a good evening.

 

[cluciano63]

It seems as though she was most likely taken away in a car, IMO. She should have been found if she was still in the area (hate to say, but with the heat there...). And if she was taken, or got into a car, she could be anywhere. But at least her not being found means she could be alive.

 

[Tonto]

It seems as though she was most likely taken away in a car, IMO. She should have been found if she was still in the area (hate to say, but with the heat there...). And if she was taken, or got into a car, she could be anywhere. But at least her not being found means she could be alive.

Agreed. I feel that 100+ LEOs searching over a few blocks this morning would have found her if she was there.