AZ AZ - Adrienne Salinas, 19, Tempe , 15 June 2013 - #2

[margarita25]

Sad to hear that there have been no new developments in Adrienne's case that we know of.

 

[margarita25]

You guys are doing a good job here, though.

 

[MissDemeanor]

I have been thinking so much about this case and Adrienne that it is affecting my sleep. It's the last thing I think about each night after I get in bed. I try reaching out to Adrienne, in the hopes she will channel back to me.

Last night I had something very strange happen. I dreamed I was fighting off an unknown attacker. But in my sleep it wasn't someone unknown, although I recall it being a female. I can't remember details now, but my partner woke me up holding my wrists because I was fighting and hitting him in my sleep.

But it was just a dream. Not a premonition. Just a dream. I know I am probably the only one who still believes this but I think Adrienne is out there alive somewhere. I believe with all my heart she will come home safely.

I know everyone thinks the boyfriend is in the clear. And I actually do too, but I still very much believe that the argument he and Adrienne had has great importance in this case.

Last night I was deeply thinking about when I was Adrienne's age and first involved in a serious relationship. My boyfriend and I fought constantly. I ran away a couple of times following our fights. It always followed a night of drinking. When I was 19 and had my own job and apartment I didn't feel like I had to tell my parents everything I did or was going to do. This is just me I am talking about here, but my behavior changed radically from the time I was 18 to 19 to 20. Looking back I was pretty wild. Lots of partying and drinking.

I'm not accusing Adrienne of being irresponsible like I was. I'm just thinking back to when I was her age.

Just last night I was out walking with my boyfriend and it was dark and we were in a dimly lit part of town near where we live. He said something to me I felt was extremely disrespectful. It bothered me immensely. I was so upset I told him I would just walk alone. I wanted away from him. Thoughts of getting away from him forever entered my head. But he didn't leave me. And soon it was forgotten and we walked happily for 30 to 45 minutes.

But for a minute I imagined I was feeling like Adrienne did when she jumped out of her boyfriend's car.

 

[goblinsolo]

last night, from 11pm to about 12 midnight, i rode 5th up west to her apt street to hardy, and then back to ampm and thru that large ampm and various biz strip mall, and criss crossed eastward and a bit west as well on 5th... i must of looked like a homeless guy looking for tin cans in garbage cans.

regardless, there are many strange areas to the west of hardy towards ampm, AND nice apts as well. at midnight time, many many people (a group of 3 young ladies i noted,) and regular residents just out on cell phones (of course,) in the area.

nothing seemed out of the ordinary once again, very normal. brown to hardy is about the most quiet and boring street you can find, its actually one of my favorites as its RARE that trees actually grow high enough to canvas the sky and block it a bit in tempe, az.. some people were out having a pool party and trying to enjoy life w our over 100 degree nights.

i didn't see ANY posters for a salinas. i didnt go into the various apt laundry rooms, but just on poles and such, NOTHING. oh, and i went thru the park too. at midnight, there was a family w two babies hanging out. not exactly fitting the idea of this place being some hellhole, its a mixed use area with many types of individuals using it.

i woke up this morn at 5am to my alarm, as i wanted to gauge how dark it was, outside. it was actually very bright. walked to my circle k for an energy drink, and it was actually bright enough to think it was 8am!! i think that at 5am for a salinas, the biggest threat to her safety (and not knowing if she was being tailed or followed,) is that

1. she got in an accident severe enough to pop 2 tires
2. she is a frail girl from her surgery
3. was drinking (and perhaps other things,) for the night prior plus the emotions of the guyfriend drama, walking from her parked car, dealing w a party at her apt, etc

my thinking is that she might of been quite confused and beclouded, befuddled, cluttered, dazed, DISORIENTED, frustrated,perturbed, rattled,thrown off, unbalanced, troubled, unhinged, unsettled, upset, and worried. (adjectives!!!)

so, she would of been an easy target. its like when a lion hangs back to see which zebra will be the easiest to persue. and to my mind, its very possible that someone followed her from the accident, or where she ditched car, to her house. Like waiting for the young deer to be seperated from the herd. From her house where SOMEONE you hope, would of seen something, i think what happened to her happened outside of that. UNLESS her roommates/friends are that oblivious. and, from thus far, thats fair too as they haven't added much dialogue to this.

we have many questions; and these observations, WELL THEY DONT MEAN ANYTHING! but, i figured i'd share regardless.

cheers ya'll

 

[margarita25]

I'm hoping she is somewhere with amnesia after her accident (this has happened before in other cases). Unfortunately I don't think this is likely. I think chances are strong that she has been met with foul play. Wish there was more I could do to help. Her poor family.

 

[MissDemeanor]

You guys are doing a good job here, though.

There's not much to post about, except the same thing over and over. But it's so important to not let this case go cold.

last night, from 11pm to about 12 midnight, i rode 5th up west to her apt street to hardy, and then back to ampm and thru that large ampm and various biz strip mall, and criss crossed eastward and a bit west as well on 5th... i must of looked like a homeless guy looking for tin cans in garbage cans.

regardless, there are many strange areas to the west of hardy towards ampm, AND nice apts as well. at midnight time, many many people (a group of 3 young ladies i noted,) and regular residents just out on cell phones (of course,) in the area.

nothing seemed out of the ordinary once again, very normal. brown to hardy is about the most quiet and boring street you can find, its actually one of my favorites as its RARE that trees actually grow high enough to canvas the sky and block it a bit in tempe, az.. some people were out having a pool party and trying to enjoy life w our over 100 degree nights.

i didn't see ANY posters for a salinas. i didnt go into the various apt laundry rooms, but just on poles and such, NOTHING. oh, and i went thru the park too. at midnight, there was a family w two babies hanging out. not exactly fitting the idea of this place being some hellhole, its a mixed use area with many types of individuals using it.

i woke up this morn at 5am to my alarm, as i wanted to gauge how dark it was, outside. it was actually very bright. walked to my circle k for an energy drink, and it was actually bright enough to think it was 8am!! i think that at 5am for a salinas, the biggest threat to her safety (and not knowing if she was being tailed or followed,) is that

1. she got in an accident severe enough to pop 2 tires
2. she is a frail girl from her surgery
3. was drinking (and perhaps other things,) for the night prior plus the emotions of the guyfriend drama, walking from her parked car, dealing w a party at her apt, etc

my thinking is that she might of been quite confused and beclouded, befuddled, cluttered, dazed, DISORIENTED, frustrated,perturbed, rattled,thrown off, unbalanced, troubled, unhinged, unsettled, upset, and worried. (adjectives!!!)

so, she would of been an easy target. its like when a lion hangs back to see which zebra will be the easiest to persue. and to my mind, its very possible that someone followed her from the accident, or where she ditched car, to her house. Like waiting for the young deer to be seperated from the herd. From her house where SOMEONE you hope, would of seen something, i think what happened to her happened outside of that. UNLESS her roommates/friends are that oblivious. and, from thus far, thats fair too as they haven't added much dialogue to this.

we have many questions; and these observations, WELL THEY DONT MEAN ANYTHING! but, i figured i'd share regardless.

cheers ya'll

Goblin! You paint such an interesting and vivid visual! Thanks again for venturing out there at weird times and reporting back to us. I felt I was there, reading your post. Seriously, thanks so much! Scary, though, the reference to the lion.

I'm hoping she is somewhere with amnesia after her accident (this has happened before in other cases). Unfortunately I don't think this is likely. I think chances are strong that she has been met with foul play. Wish there was more I could do to help. Her poor family.

Margarita, I realize the odds are against her at this point, but in my idealistic mind I simply refuse to give up hope she is alive. I have considered the possibility of amnesia. We don't know if she might have hit her head when the car hit the median. Do you know if amnesia can come on later...rather than immediately following an injury? Like say a couple of hours later?

 

[goblinsolo]

Goblin! You paint such an interesting and vivid visual! Thanks again for venturing out there at weird times and reporting back to us. I felt I was there, reading your post. Seriously, thanks so much! Scary, though, the reference to the lion.

perhaps, less lion, and moor a pack of hyenas, amirite?

 

[MissDemeanor]

Goblin! You paint such an interesting and vivid visual! Thanks again for venturing out there at weird times and reporting back to us. I felt I was there, reading your post. Seriously, thanks so much! Scary, though, the reference to the lion.

perhaps, less lion, and moor a pack of hyenas, amirite?

Either way sounds scary. But I lean towards the hyenas. I know where you're coming from.

 

[goblinsolo]

Either way sounds scary. But I lean towards the hyenas. I know where you're coming from.

i told this story/event a few posts ago.

my gf lives in mesa, az. not so far from this area and where i live as well.

she sometimes goes running VERY late at night, WHICH SHE DOES NOT DO ANYMORE. she was chased home by 3-4 men from a car who actually jumped out of the car as she ran home to her apt and they chased her thru her apt complex. this happened, twice with different men.
her son, also had a similiar incident where he had to hide behind a store to ditch men who chased him. i won't go into specifics why men chased her son, but all i can is that they mistaked him for woman.

there is a distinct cultural disconnect of a people who have forgotten (or perhaps, never considered,) that women are not prey for their despicable relentless attacks, they have been raised and come from a place that views women as being little more than objects for them to eat/destroy. i don't know how else, to talk about it.

and when you see, this vile hyena-like pack mentality who view women like a bag of beef jerky, you realize that what happened to a salinas could be from someone who knew her a bit and was grooming her that night for disaster, or to a random pack of this sub-humanity.

i paint an ugly picture, because i think that within that first 48hrs, the best hope for salinas was not met with action or proper investigation, not to the full extend that would add some positives to finding her alive.

thats my pessimism, for today. i don't mean to be a debbie downer.

keep safe, yall

 

[MissDemeanor]

i told this story/event a few posts ago.

my gf lives in mesa, az. not so far from this area and where i live as well.

she sometimes goes running VERY late at night, WHICH SHE DOES NOT DO ANYMORE. she was chased home by 3-4 men from a car who actually jumped out of the car as she ran home to her apt and they chased her thru her apt complex. this happened, twice with different men.
her son, also had a similiar incident where he had to hide behind a store to ditch men who chased him. i won't go into specifics why men chased her son, but all i can is that they mistaked him for woman.

there is a distinct cultural disconnect of a people who have forgotten (or perhaps, never considered,) that women are not prey for their despicable relentless attacks, they have been raised and come from a place that views women as being little more than objects for them to eat/destroy. i don't know how else, to talk about it.

and when you see, this vile hyena-like pack mentality who view women like a bag of beef jerky, you realize that what happened to a salinas could be from someone who knew her a bit and was grooming her that night for disaster, or to a random pack of this sub-humanity.

i paint an ugly picture, because i think that within that first 48hrs, the best hope for salinas was not met with action or proper investigation, not to the full extend that would add some positives to finding her alive.

thats my pessimism, for today. i don't mean to be a debbie downer.

keep safe, yall

That is an "ugly picture" indeed!!! I'm just glad to hear your girlfriend and her son were able to escape their clutches!

I don't want this to be what happened to Adrienne. I wouldn't have said I was leaning towards hyenas if I had first read this.

I hate to think we are living in such a primitive sub-culture of monsters who have no regard for women or human life in general.

At this point we don't know. We simply do not know what happened to Adrienne. Her dad said in the last interview I saw him in a couple of days ago that he didn't want to consider "the worst case scenario". I'm with him. Neither do I!

If I have several scenarios to choose from I don't want to opt for the very worst! That's just me.

 

[goblinsolo]

That is an "ugly picture" indeed!!! I'm just glad to hear your girlfriend and her son were able to escape their clutches!

I don't want this to be what happened to Adrienne. I wouldn't have said I was leaning towards hyenas if I had first read this.

I hate to think we are living in such a primitive sub-culture of monsters who have no regard for women or human life in general.

At this point we don't know. We simply do not know what happened to Adrienne. Her dad said in the last interview I saw him in a couple of days ago that he didn't want to consider "the worst case scenario". I'm with him. Neither do I!

If I have several scenarios to choose from I don't want to opt for the very worst! That's just me.

i think that we need to burst our bubble a bit, and instead of continually having candle vigils and thinking its some random monster and saying "IT COULD NEVER HAPPEN HERE WE ARE A GOOD COMMUNITY ad naseum,) we have to somehow get our heads' wrapped around the concept that while its not the most palatable thing, that a culture and society is rotten/sour, and its rampant and virile. its not a small percentage of men who are of this thinking... its dateline nbc every night out there, but there is no chris hansen to make them 'have a seat'

i'm specifically talking about a culture, in this town/part of the universe, at least, that views dogfighting, drug dealing, human abuse/trafficking, underage prostitution, animal sex, and extreme violence as something acceptable.

its disgusting. but, to treat it as something that is so putrid that it just CAN't exist and lets not talk about it, lets it fester and continue on, imo

its something that is very tangible, and real.

its what leads a man to beat a woman and then dump her naked body on the street, like shes some garbage.

 

[MissDemeanor]

its disgusting. but, to treat it as something that is so putrid that it just CAN't exist and lets not talk about it, lets it fester and continue on, imo

Goblin, just because I posted I prefer not to believe this is what happened to Adrienne doesn't mean I don't know how dangerous it is out there and that I don't think the possibility exists. Trust me, I'm not that naive or uninformed.

You must have missed my post about crime statistics that I thought were staggering. You must have missed my post where I posed the question:

"Is it safe for any woman to walk anywhere at night in this country in the wee hours of the morning?"

I didn't get much response. Maybe one reply, that's it.

I sense your frustration. I'm with you on that, buddy.

Everyone thinks it can't happen to them....until it happens.

I read somewhere recently that OVER 2300 PEOPLE in this country go missing EVERY DAY. Incredible!!! And it's not just women. It's every age, gender, ethnicity.

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/criminal_mind/forensics/americas_missing/2.html

 

[goblinsolo]

Goblin, just because I posted I prefer not to believe this is what happened to Adrienne doesn't mean I don't know how dangerous it is out there and that I don't think the possibility exists. Trust me, I'm not that naive or uninformed.

You must have missed my post about crime statistics that I thought were staggering. You must have missed my post where I posed the question:

"Is it safe for any woman to walk anywhere at night in this country in the wee hours of the morning?"

I didn't get much response. Maybe one reply, that's it.

I sense your frustration. I'm with you on that, buddy.

Everyone thinks it can't happen to them....until it happens.

I read somewhere recently that OVER 2300 PEOPLE in this country go missing EVERY DAY. Incredible!!! And it's not just women. It's every age, gender, ethnicity.

i read your posts, and i apoligize if my post seemed to be an attack yr prior post, i quoted it because it reminded me of some other things that bum me out that had nothing to do with your words,, namely how the media itself likes to paint a rosy picture of life and the police also like to put on a show of force (after tragedy,) but when the fight is in the trenches at a particular moment they don't come on like gangbusters, only when its tuesday morning quarterback time. the community noticed that, btw. we saw 2wks later a lockdown for ONE night, that by morning, NO hardy/5th station was even left from prior night. i hope the police marked off enough homes to make people feel safe. but, 2wks prior, when the trail was steaming/boiling w potential info for a salinas to be found/saved or persued by authorities, they didn't bring their best. and if im wrong, so be it.

i wanted a police response that sunday that canvased the area beyond the lake (why did they go there in such bulk, but not cover her apt/ampm/or the car being left, w k9s right away and look for a 'hot' trail?) why did the community of her friends not react with a huge reaction online that demanded answers from those who were at the party? her movements that morning are CRUCIAL.

last night, i forgot to mention, im almost positive that she could of cut brown st thru apts from her car being left, to her apt. i think she definitely wanted to dissappear after the car accident, and not get a dui, for example. the bowing out to her bfs house, OR POSSIBLY get somewhere and cover the accident (by changing clothes, by leaving her carkey at house, isnt that the facts thus far?) she seemed to be acting very strange in terms of leaving car, going home, going to ampm?and, was it someone else behind the wheel of that vehicle?

too many questions, still.

 

[MissDemeanor]

You know what this is like? This is like the 'girl in a well' syndrome. There are children in need and suffering all over this world, and it doesn't get a lot of attention. Why? Because it is impossible, or we think it is impossible to help them all. It's staggering to the imagination!

But when there is ONE down in a well. That's different! We know we can, or at least we can TRY to help that one child.

That's what this reminds me of when the subject of how dangerous it is out there is broached. Yes, it is dangerous! No, I would not go walking around thinking I am safe in the wee hours of the morning, not anywhere.

Yes, there are very dangerous and sick individuals who have no regard for human life out there and they are looking and cruising for prey. And we know this! That's why when we are little our parents tell us not to talk to strangers and won't let us go play outside alone unless they are positive it is a safe place.

And because we practice, for the most part, the safety that our parents teach us, we feel safe. But it only takes one time. One time we let our guard down, for something to happen.

Yes, there are hundreds and thousands of missing persons out there. And we all know it. And we suffer internally when we think of it. But we don't know what to do about it.

But when it hits close to home....when it's in your hometown....it gets your attention. It's like the girl in the well ....like Jessica.

Only this time she's not in a well, and we don't know where she is and her name isn't Jessica.

It's Adrienne!

 

[MissDemeanor]

i read your posts, and i apoligize if my post seemed to be an attack yr prior post, i quoted it because it reminded me of some other things that bum me out that had nothing to do with your words.

I didn't take it as a personal attack in the slightest, Goblin. No need for an apology. I completely and totally understand your frustration. And for the most part I agree.

Since I don't live in Tempe, but I do live in neighboring Scottsdale, I am not so familiar with the area or the 'night scene' there. So I really do appreciate your description of the area and what goes on, including your own thoughts on the subject. Thanks!

 

[margarita25]

Bringin this over from Annovedwin's thread:

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Hip2BSquare
My fear is if George is involved in also killing Gerrick, this pretty much categorizes him as a serial killer. This makes me additionally fearful for Adrienne Salinas and the possible connection to George the night of June 15 as well


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Originally Posted by margarita25
Has there been any mention by LE of George being officially cleared in Adrienne's case? You would think they would make a statement about this, considering the coincidental timing and location!

 

[goblinsolo]

I didn't take it as a personal attack in the slightest, Goblin. No need for an apology. I completely and totally understand your frustration. And for the most part I agree.

Since I don't live in Tempe, but I do live in neighboring Scottsdale, I am not so familiar with the area or the 'night scene' there. So I really do appreciate your description of the area and what goes on, including your own thoughts on the subject. Thanks!

i had a friend drugged at a party in fountain hills, and she woke up the nxt morning with no underwear on beneath her clothes and off to the side of a road. luckily, she was alive and very confused, and the police? well, they didn't really care.

my ex fiance was sexually assaulted in glendale, at a house party. the police in that incident, well, if ONLY she was treated even like a girl down a well. i cant even speak to how disheartening, that experience was for me. imagine how she felt when they didn't give a .

its my opinion that its not so much, location, but that as a culture there are men that think they can have whatever they want, whenever they want, and its merely theirs for the taking. its a segment of the population who are empowered to do this by friends and even the women who excuse it, or cops who dont respond with the same justice when its a person who isn't the daughter of a senator but just a neighborhood girl, illegal alien, or prostitute. their is a distinct difference in response, when its a woman of different 'worth,' and its sickening.

in salinas instance it seems like the culture around her is not very supportive in helping but in supporting the 'snitches get stiches' mentality, i dont speak for ANYONE but meself, and thats merely an observation and obviously not scientific fact.

its vile.

 

[missgulfsouth]

last night, from 11pm to about 12 midnight, i rode 5th up west to her apt street to hardy, and then back to ampm and thru that large ampm and various biz strip mall, and criss crossed eastward and a bit west as well on 5th... i must of looked like a homeless guy looking for tin cans in garbage cans.

regardless, there are many strange areas to the west of hardy towards ampm, AND nice apts as well. at midnight time, many many people (a group of 3 young ladies i noted,) and regular residents just out on cell phones (of course,) in the area.

nothing seemed out of the ordinary once again, very normal. brown to hardy is about the most quiet and boring street you can find, its actually one of my favorites as its RARE that trees actually grow high enough to canvas the sky and block it a bit in tempe, az.. some people were out having a pool party and trying to enjoy life w our over 100 degree nights.

i didn't see ANY posters for a salinas. i didnt go into the various apt laundry rooms, but just on poles and such, NOTHING. oh, and i went thru the park too. at midnight, there was a family w two babies hanging out. not exactly fitting the idea of this place being some hellhole, its a mixed use area with many types of individuals using it.

i woke up this morn at 5am to my alarm, as i wanted to gauge how dark it was, outside. it was actually very bright. walked to my circle k for an energy drink, and it was actually bright enough to think it was 8am!! i think that at 5am for a salinas, the biggest threat to her safety (and not knowing if she was being tailed or followed,) is that

1. she got in an accident severe enough to pop 2 tires
2. she is a frail girl from her surgery
3. was drinking (and perhaps other things,) for the night prior plus the emotions of the guyfriend drama, walking from her parked car, dealing w a party at her apt, etc

my thinking is that she might of been quite confused and beclouded, befuddled, cluttered, dazed, DISORIENTED, frustrated,perturbed, rattled,thrown off, unbalanced, troubled, unhinged, unsettled, upset, and worried. (adjectives!!!)

so, she would of been an easy target. its like when a lion hangs back to see which zebra will be the easiest to persue. and to my mind, its very possible that someone followed her from the accident, or where she ditched car, to her house. Like waiting for the young deer to be seperated from the herd. From her house where SOMEONE you hope, would of seen something, i think what happened to her happened outside of that. UNLESS her roommates/friends are that oblivious. and, from thus far, thats fair too as they haven't added much dialogue to this.

we have many questions; and these observations, WELL THEY DONT MEAN ANYTHING! but, i figured i'd share regardless.

cheers ya'll

GREAT INFO!!! Now, with that information I definitely feel comfortable with my theory of what happened to her. Unfortunately, I can't say it here without getting the ban. I just hope they can put the pieces together soon. They have to know what transpired here, there are very few options. They just need the missing link.

 

[MissDemeanor]

Bringin this over from Annovedwin's thread:

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Hip2BSquare
My fear is if George is involved in also killing Gerrick, this pretty much categorizes him as a serial killer. This makes me additionally fearful for Adrienne Salinas and the possible connection to George the night of June 15 as well


***************************************************
Originally Posted by margarita25
Has there been any mention by LE of George being officially cleared in Adrienne's case? You would think they would make a statement about this, considering the coincidental timing and location!

I was the one who initially discovered that Derrick Begay's body had been found in Town Lake only two weeks before Annovedwin's body was dumped and Adrienne disappeared. It seemed too coincidental to me. 2Hip suggested I posted the link on her thread, which I did.
I have never read official reports from LE that they even considered a link between the two cases, which I find strange to say the least. I did read, however, that much of the details in his case have now been sealed. I suppose this is to protect the evidence.

i had a friend drugged at a party in fountain hills, and she woke up the nxt morning with no underwear on beneath her clothes and off to the side of a road. luckily, she was alive and very confused, and the police? well, they didn't really care.

my ex fiance was sexually assaulted in glendale, at a house party. the police in that incident, well, if ONLY she was treated even like a girl down a well. i cant even speak to how disheartening, that experience was for me. imagine how she felt when they didn't give a .

its my opinion that its not so much, location, but that as a culture there are men that think they can have whatever they want, whenever they want, and its merely theirs for the taking. its a segment of the population who are empowered to do this by friends and even the women who excuse it, or cops who dont respond with the same justice when its a person who isn't the daughter of a senator but just a neighborhood girl, illegal alien, or prostitute. their is a distinct difference in response, when its a woman of different 'worth,' and its sickening.

in salinas instance it seems like the culture around her is not very supportive in helping but in supporting the 'snitches get stiches' mentality, i dont speak for ANYONE but meself, and thats merely an observation and obviously not scientific fact.

its vile.

Goblin, I have come so close to getting myself in serious trouble back in my wilder days. One night in an upscale north scottsdale nightclub I met a very nice young couple, who befriended me after my girlfriend had left with a stranger. (a common occurence) I had already been drinking quite a bit but this couple bought me a couple more drinks and I began to feel very strange, like I'd never felt before from over imbibing. I am convinced they put something in my drink. They tried and tried to get me to leave with them and go to their place. Fortunately for me another friend of mine showed up and saw to it that I got home safely. This club is now closed, but I learned afterward that there were lots of rapes from the 'date rape drug' that were never made public. And so much of it just goes unreported.

As far as Adrienne's group being supportive, I'm not sure they know what to do or how to go about it. Maybe they are of the mindset that if they put up a reward page and have a car wash and raise 10K that's about all they can do.

I'm like you, however, in that I would be screaming to high heaven on my FB page asking everyone who might know anything at all to come forward. If the party had been at my place I would be personally contacting everyone who was there. But then again, I don't know that they haven't done this.

I'm not in their shoes.

 

[MissDemeanor]

GREAT INFO!!! Now, with that information I definitely feel comfortable with my theory of what happened to her. Unfortunately, I can't say it here without getting the ban. I just hope they can put the pieces together soon. They have to know what transpired here, there are very few options. They just need the missing link.

If you are only speculating why would you get 'the ban'? I, for one, would like to know what your theory is.