AZ AZ - Adrienne Salinas, 19, Tempe , 15 June 2013 - #2

[SandSage]

SandSage and 2Hip2bSquare ..... where are you? I miss you and your thought provoking posts! Please don't give up here!

Hey honey! In San Diego for a few days. Checking regularly just hard to post from my phone. You just won the Pulitzer for journalists in my book, btw!!! <3

 

[prospektor]

He did verify that she went back to her apartment and that no one saw her. She did change clothes and she left behind her large bag and her wallet with all of her identification.

Another thing....when he told me that she did go back to the apartment and change her clothes following the accident, I asked him "Did anyone see her?" And he said "No, this is where things get fuzzy." He either used the word 'fuzzy' or 'confusing'. But he repeated that no one said they saw her when she went back to change clothes.

In earlier reports it was stated she also left her key(s) behind, was that mentioned? I think it's extremely odd that she also left her bag behind, practically everything she needed for the trip. Did they somehow verify that AS indeed was in possession of clothes like those in which she allegedly was last seen on the street?
So far it seems she leaves the apartment and goes kinda poof.
Someone believed to be her drives erratically, has an accident, flees the scene. Some time later someone believed to be her tries to call her boyfriend, rather frantically (11 times in a few minutes). Then there is the text message that she comes over and the call to a cab company. Cabbie and eyewitness who sees her walking assume they talked to/saw her. After that, nothing more. Cellphone dies/turned off at 5:07 am.
Days later, her car is located in the vicinity. Clothes, bag, wallet are found in the apartment. Key(s) either as well or the person who put the items in the apartment (assumed to be AS after the accident) took the keys with them.

I don't know. I'd really like to hear those calls to the cabby, if she sounded distressed/intoxicated. Some reason for him to call every minute. Was that cleared up somewhere? Can her location in the assumed timeline be verified by cell phone pings? Sorry if this has been confirmed earlier, it's quite a few days I last looked into this thread. But even if so, since pings just give the vicinity, I'd take a good hard look at her acquaintances who live near her apartment or on the way to the AM/PM.

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

I wonder if she had a secret, local bad-guy boyfriend or lover?
Not judging her (nope, not this girl here)......maybe a new love interest or party-partner? Maybe someone to make the regular boyfriend jealous, just in case she needed to.

Maybe most of her friends don't even know about him or would think she'd be interested in him? Hmmm...

....'just thinking outloud and remembering how it was to be 19yrs old.....

:moo:

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

i read your posts, and i apoligize if my post seemed to be an attack yr prior post, i quoted it because it reminded me of some other things that bum me out that had nothing to do with your words,, namely how the media itself likes to paint a rosy picture of life and the police also like to put on a show of force (after tragedy,) but when the fight is in the trenches at a particular moment they don't come on like gangbusters, only when its tuesday morning quarterback time. the community noticed that, btw. we saw 2wks later a lockdown for ONE night, that by morning, NO hardy/5th station was even left from prior night. i hope the police marked off enough homes to make people feel safe. but, 2wks prior, when the trail was steaming/boiling w potential info for a salinas to be found/saved or persued by authorities, they didn't bring their best. and if im wrong, so be it.

i wanted a police response that sunday that canvased the area beyond the lake (why did they go there in such bulk, but not cover her apt/ampm/or the car being left, w k9s right away and look for a 'hot' trail?) why did the community of her friends not react with a huge reaction online that demanded answers from those who were at the party? her movements that morning are CRUCIAL.

last night, i forgot to mention, im almost positive that she could of cut brown st thru apts from her car being left, to her apt. i think she definitely wanted to dissappear after the car accident, and not get a dui, for example. the bowing out to her bfs house, OR POSSIBLY get somewhere and cover the accident (by changing clothes, by leaving her carkey at house, isnt that the facts thus far?) she seemed to be acting very strange in terms of leaving car, going home, going to ampm?and, was it someone else behind the wheel of that vehicle?

too many questions, still.

Yeah that cut through from Roosevelt to brown/s Mitchell creeps me out. It does make the walk considerably shorter just cutting straight across on foot rather than following down roosevelt to 5th and up s Mitchell to brown and her apartment.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

I wonder if she had a secret, local bad-guy boyfriend or lover?
Not judging her (nope, not this girl here)......maybe a new love interest or party-partner? Maybe someone to make the regular boyfriend jealous, just in case she needed to.

Maybe most of her friends don't even know about him or would think she'd be interested in him? Hmmm...

....'just thinking outloud and remembering how it was to be 19yrs old.....

:moo:

Yeah I mean I feel like someone who was an acquaintance could have offered her a ride up to Scottsdale. An acquaintance that she barely knew, yet trusted enough with her life. He just so "happened" upon her when she was walking to meet the cab. "omg what are you doing here at 5am? You got in a wreck? Here get in my car I'll give you a ride girl. Can't believe your man isn't here to pick you up. That's a damn shame!"

I've worried about it being Douglas George still. Ive had a vision of Adrienne playing pool at Bogey's where he worked - maybe she used a fake ID often there and George accepted it and served her/gained her trust? He seemed like a nice older guy who she could trust and possibly use for a ride?

I wish they would check Bogey's. I wish they would see of she had a Fake ID.

I feel like she didn't scream or struggle when she got into the car with this man. I worry he drove her up toward Scottsdale, but then detoured off to remote side road and might have assaulted her there. I've been desperate to hear that LE has asked to check the Gila reservation near by. Me and another user had a sick suspicion that she could have been left in the trunk of a car and abandoned on a reservation nearby. Gila in not very far. There are always tons of abandoned cars on reservations. Just get the damn dogs over there already LE!

Obviously if she hasn't been found by now she is probably somewhere more remote, but within reasonable distance.

I'm wondering if anyone abandoned a car or if George could have used Annovedwin's car to commit the crime of abducting Adrienne, only to leave Annovedwin's car at Gila with Adrienne in the trunk?

I just feel like someone had to of bought the booze for that party. Maybe they had a fake ID. Maybe they asked someone older to buy the booze for them??

I know LE said they believed they had most of the 40 party guests accounted for and still no specific leads

IMHO and theories.

 

[AngelaH]

So she left her wallet at the apartment. She was going to catch a cab to her bf's house. So how was she going to pay for the cab? I'm assuming her money was in her wallet. This - I think - is a clue to her state of mind. Very erratic behavior.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

And I really think the key here is checking into recently abandoned cars. If we think the last place she may have ended up was in the car with an abductor, most likely the evidence and Adrienne are still in that car if no external evidence exists. Imho

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

So she left her wallet at the apartment. She was going to catch a cab to her bf's house. So how was she going to pay for the cab? I'm assuming her money was in her wallet. This - I think - is a clue to her state of mind. Very erratic behavior.

She had her overnight bag with her. Maybe she put her cash in there??

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

In earlier reports it was stated she also left her key(s) behind, was that mentioned? I think it's extremely odd that she also left her bag behind, practically everything she needed for the trip. Did they somehow verify that AS indeed was in possession of clothes like those in which she allegedly was last seen on the street?
So far it seems she leaves the apartment and goes kinda poof.
Someone believed to be her drives erratically, has an accident, flees the scene. Some time later someone believed to be her tries to call her boyfriend, rather frantically (11 times in a few minutes). Then there is the text message that she comes over and the call to a cab company. Cabbie and eyewitness who sees her walking assume they talked to/saw her. After that, nothing more. Cellphone dies/turned off at 5:07 am.
Days later, her car is located in the vicinity. Clothes, bag, wallet are found in the apartment. Key(s) either as well or the person who put the items in the apartment (assumed to be AS after the accident) took the keys with them.

I don't know. I'd really like to hear those calls to the cabby, if she sounded distressed/intoxicated. Some reason for him to call every minute. Was that cleared up somewhere? Can her location in the assumed timeline be verified by cell phone pings? Sorry if this has been confirmed earlier, it's quite a few days I last looked into this thread. But even if so, since pings just give the vicinity, I'd take a good hard look at her acquaintances who live near her apartment or on the way to the AM/PM.

She left her car key and wallet after heading out of her apartment for the last time to meet the cab.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

I just spoke on the phone with Sargent Pooley of the Tempe Police Department. He is in charge of Adrienne's case and he was very very receptive to my call and provided me with some additional information that has not been reported in the news sources.

He is one of the nicest people I have ever spoken with and I can assure you after speaking with him that they are not planning on letting this case go cold anytime in the near future. They are doing everything they can and following every possible lead in an attempt to find Adrienne. I am so thankful to know we have such capable and caring LE in our area!

Sargent Pooley shared the timeline and information that he 'could' with me. He gave me permission to quote him:

He said that Adrienne and her boyfriend were at the apartment party on Friday night and that there were approximately 40 to 50 people there. He said that Adrienne and her boyfriend began to argue because she "didn't feel he was showing her enough attention". According to the boyfriend, Sargent Pooley told me that the boyfriend suggested they leave the party and go to his place in Scottsdale to continue the discussion. At his place they continued to argue and she left stating she was going to walk home.

He didn't want her to walk to he followed her and asked her to get into his car so he could take her home. She did but when they reached 5th and Mill (or that vicinity) she got out of his car. The boyfriend was very concerned about Adrienne and called her roommate to pick her up or "meet her halfway". The roommate did this. According to Sargent Pooley, this was somewhere around 2:30am.

After Adrienne got back to the party, which Sargent Pooley said broke up around 3:00am, she wanted to go back to her boyfriend's house and packed a large bag. She told her roommates she was leaving and they heard her go out the door, which makes a noise and get into her car, which was parked right by the door. They are certain she left right away after going out the door.

This was, according to all counts, around 3:30am.

911 call at 3:44am. Sargent Pooley added to the 911 call, saying that the caller reported that a car had been tailgating her and driving erratically before hitting the median and that she wanted to help the person in the car but they sped off before she could lend assistance.

Sargent Pooley also told me they have searched the car and from all indications, including the seat position, etc. that they feel certain Adrienne was driving the car alone.

He did verify that she went back to her apartment and that no one saw her. She did change clothes and she left behind her large bag and her wallet with all of her identification.

He told me that the last time anyone saw Adrienne was at approximately 3:30am when she told her roommates she was leaving to go back to her boyfriend's house, before the accident.

Sargent Pooley confirmed to me that her cell phone has NOT been found.

We also spoke about the possible connection to the Annovedwin Begay body that was found the same day. He did say they had considered a connection but did not feel that Gerrick Begay, whose body was found in Town Lake only two weeks before, was related to Annovedwin. He didn't tell me conclusively that they felt there was any connection to the two cases but I definitely got the feeling he did not think so or they had ruled it out.

He did tell me that they have checked out the possibility of her going to Mexico and wondered what led me to believe that she might have gone down there, as well.

He asked me to keep up posting on social media and keeping the interest up to keep the case alive. He confirmed that the FBI is assisting them in their investigation.

He said they are considering every possibility that they can and found it very strange that she left behind her little dog that she loved very much without asking anyone to take care of it.

I have to tell you....I could tell from his voice how deeply saddened he is by this case and just how much he wants to find Adrienne.

He told me he would update the website as soon as possible and is grateful for everyone's help.

If I can think of anything else Sargent Pooley told me I will update this post.

http://tempe.gov/index.aspx?page=111

Update: (I just remembered a couple of things Sargent Pooley told me.)

I asked him if there were any suspects and he said "No, we don't have suspects, but suspects and persons of interest are two different things." He then went on to tell me that there were some things he could not share with me, which of course I understood, and as I recall, this was after I had inquired if they had been able to interview all the party guests. He did say that they had spoken with most of them.

The other thing he told me is that one of the reasons they searched the lake so soon was they feared she might have fallen into the lake on the way to her boyfriend's place.

I asked him about suicide and he told me it was one of the things they had considered.

He also confirmed the last call being to the cab driver at 5:06am.

Another thing....when he told me that she did go back to the apartment and change her clothes following the accident, I asked him "Did anyone see her?" And he said "No, this is where things get fuzzy." He either used the word 'fuzzy' or 'confusing'. But he repeated that no one said they saw her when she went back to change clothes.

That's all I can recall. Hope this information can help WS's to put this together better and maybe come up with something new!

My apologies. bringing this forward. I didnt think she left her bag behind. Wow!

 

[margarita25]

I just spoke on the phone with Sargent Pooley of the Tempe Police Department. He is in charge of Adrienne's case and he was very very receptive to my call and provided me with some additional information that has not been reported in the news sources.

He is one of the nicest people I have ever spoken with and I can assure you after speaking with him that they are not planning on letting this case go cold anytime in the near future. They are doing everything they can and following every possible lead in an attempt to find Adrienne. I am so thankful to know we have such capable and caring LE in our area!

Sargent Pooley shared the timeline and information that he 'could' with me. He gave me permission to quote him:

He said that Adrienne and her boyfriend were at the apartment party on Friday night and that there were approximately 40 to 50 people there. He said that Adrienne and her boyfriend began to argue because she "didn't feel he was showing her enough attention". According to the boyfriend, Sargent Pooley told me that the boyfriend suggested they leave the party and go to his place in Scottsdale to continue the discussion. At his place they continued to argue and she left stating she was going to walk home.

He didn't want her to walk to he followed her and asked her to get into his car so he could take her home. She did but when they reached 5th and Mill (or that vicinity) she got out of his car. The boyfriend was very concerned about Adrienne and called her roommate to pick her up or "meet her halfway". The roommate did this. According to Sargent Pooley, this was somewhere around 2:30am.

After Adrienne got back to the party, which Sargent Pooley said broke up around 3:00am, she wanted to go back to her boyfriend's house and packed a large bag. She told her roommates she was leaving and they heard her go out the door, which makes a noise and get into her car, which was parked right by the door. They are certain she left right away after going out the door.

This was, according to all counts, around 3:30am.

911 call at 3:44am. Sargent Pooley added to the 911 call, saying that the caller reported that a car had been tailgating her and driving erratically before hitting the median and that she wanted to help the person in the car but they sped off before she could lend assistance.

Sargent Pooley also told me they have searched the car and from all indications, including the seat position, etc. that they feel certain Adrienne was driving the car alone.

He did verify that she went back to her apartment and that no one saw her. She did change clothes and she left behind her large bag and her wallet with all of her identification.

He told me that the last time anyone saw Adrienne was at approximately 3:30am when she told her roommates she was leaving to go back to her boyfriend's house, before the accident.

Sargent Pooley confirmed to me that her cell phone has NOT been found.

We also spoke about the possible connection to the Annovedwin Begay body that was found the same day. He did say they had considered a connection but did not feel that Gerrick Begay, whose body was found in Town Lake only two weeks before, was related to Annovedwin. He didn't tell me conclusively that they felt there was any connection to the two cases but I definitely got the feeling he did not think so or they had ruled it out.

He did tell me that they have checked out the possibility of her going to Mexico and wondered what led me to believe that she might have gone down there, as well.

He asked me to keep up posting on social media and keeping the interest up to keep the case alive. He confirmed that the FBI is assisting them in their investigation.

He said they are considering every possibility that they can and found it very strange that she left behind her little dog that she loved very much without asking anyone to take care of it.

I have to tell you....I could tell from his voice how deeply saddened he is by this case and just how much he wants to find Adrienne.

He told me he would update the website as soon as possible and is grateful for everyone's help.

If I can think of anything else Sargent Pooley told me I will update this post.

http://tempe.gov/index.aspx?page=111

Update: (I just remembered a couple of things Sargent Pooley told me.)

I asked him if there were any suspects and he said "No, we don't have suspects, but suspects and persons of interest are two different things." He then went on to tell me that there were some things he could not share with me, which of course I understood, and as I recall, this was after I had inquired if they had been able to interview all the party guests. He did say that they had spoken with most of them.

The other thing he told me is that one of the reasons they searched the lake so soon was they feared she might have fallen into the lake on the way to her boyfriend's place.

I asked him about suicide and he told me it was one of the things they had considered.

He also confirmed the last call being to the cab driver at 5:06am.

Another thing....when he told me that she did go back to the apartment and change her clothes following the accident, I asked him "Did anyone see her?" And he said "No, this is where things get fuzzy." He either used the word 'fuzzy' or 'confusing'. But he repeated that no one said they saw her when she went back to change clothes.

That's all I can recall. Hope this information can help WS's to put this together better and maybe come up with something new!

WOW! Thank you MissDemeanor!!!!
:rockon:

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

I just spoke on the phone with Sargent Pooley of the Tempe Police Department. He is in charge of Adrienne's case and he was very very receptive to my call and provided me with some additional information that has not been reported in the news sources.

He is one of the nicest people I have ever spoken with and I can assure you after speaking with him that they are not planning on letting this case go cold anytime in the near future. They are doing everything they can and following every possible lead in an attempt to find Adrienne. I am so thankful to know we have such capable and caring LE in our area!

Sargent Pooley shared the timeline and information that he 'could' with me. He gave me permission to quote him:

He said that Adrienne and her boyfriend were at the apartment party on Friday night and that there were approximately 40 to 50 people there. He said that Adrienne and her boyfriend began to argue because she "didn't feel he was showing her enough attention". According to the boyfriend, Sargent Pooley told me that the boyfriend suggested they leave the party and go to his place in Scottsdale to continue the discussion. At his place they continued to argue and she left stating she was going to walk home.

He didn't want her to walk to he followed her and asked her to get into his car so he could take her home. She did but when they reached 5th and Mill (or that vicinity) she got out of his car. The boyfriend was very concerned about Adrienne and called her roommate to pick her up or "meet her halfway". The roommate did this. According to Sargent Pooley, this was somewhere around 2:30am.

After Adrienne got back to the party, which Sargent Pooley said broke up around 3:00am, she wanted to go back to her boyfriend's house and packed a large bag. She told her roommates she was leaving and they heard her go out the door, which makes a noise and get into her car, which was parked right by the door. They are certain she left right away after going out the door.

This was, according to all counts, around 3:30am.

911 call at 3:44am. Sargent Pooley added to the 911 call, saying that the caller reported that a car had been tailgating her and driving erratically before hitting the median and that she wanted to help the person in the car but they sped off before she could lend assistance.

Sargent Pooley also told me they have searched the car and from all indications, including the seat position, etc. that they feel certain Adrienne was driving the car alone.

He did verify that she went back to her apartment and that no one saw her. She did change clothes and she left behind her large bag and her wallet with all of her identification.

He told me that the last time anyone saw Adrienne was at approximately 3:30am when she told her roommates she was leaving to go back to her boyfriend's house, before the accident.

Sargent Pooley confirmed to me that her cell phone has NOT been found.

We also spoke about the possible connection to the Annovedwin Begay body that was found the same day. He did say they had considered a connection but did not feel that Gerrick Begay, whose body was found in Town Lake only two weeks before, was related to Annovedwin. He didn't tell me conclusively that they felt there was any connection to the two cases but I definitely got the feeling he did not think so or they had ruled it out.

He did tell me that they have checked out the possibility of her going to Mexico and wondered what led me to believe that she might have gone down there, as well.

He asked me to keep up posting on social media and keeping the interest up to keep the case alive. He confirmed that the FBI is assisting them in their investigation.

He said they are considering every possibility that they can and found it very strange that she left behind her little dog that she loved very much without asking anyone to take care of it.

I have to tell you....I could tell from his voice how deeply saddened he is by this case and just how much he wants to find Adrienne.

He told me he would update the website as soon as possible and is grateful for everyone's help.

If I can think of anything else Sargent Pooley told me I will update this post.

http://tempe.gov/index.aspx?page=111

Update: (I just remembered a couple of things Sargent Pooley told me.)

I asked him if there were any suspects and he said "No, we don't have suspects, but suspects and persons of interest are two different things." He then went on to tell me that there were some things he could not share with me, which of course I understood, and as I recall, this was after I had inquired if they had been able to interview all the party guests. He did say that they had spoken with most of them.

The other thing he told me is that one of the reasons they searched the lake so soon was they feared she might have fallen into the lake on the way to her boyfriend's place.

I asked him about suicide and he told me it was one of the things they had considered.

He also confirmed the last call being to the cab driver at 5:06am.

Another thing....when he told me that she did go back to the apartment and change her clothes following the accident, I asked him "Did anyone see her?" And he said "No, this is where things get fuzzy." He either used the word 'fuzzy' or 'confusing'. But he repeated that no one said they saw her when she went back to change clothes.

That's all I can recall. Hope this information can help WS's to put this together better and maybe come up with something new!

Thank you so much for sharing all of this!

It's interesting... Things always get fuzzy around the time she gets back to the apartment but NO ONE remembers her walking in/being there? What is she invisible? She had just gotten into a wreck! I would think the rumor would spread by the time she got back to her apartment or that she would have wanted to vent her frustration to another person at the party!!!!!

Perhaps she went back and out of frustration/anger she decided to drink or do serving that affected her collapsed lung. Maybe everyone thought she overdosed when really it Was a complication with her lung issues , and out of fear they disposed of her?

It's sad as it sounds like she was really wanting male attention. Any guy could easily take advantage. Ugh.

 

[WideOpen]

I never did like the part about her going back home and nobody saw her. To find out that she left the big overnight bag, well, having daughters...I find this ominous. They always carry a bag with them if they don't plan on being home shortly.

jmo

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

A lot of times in these cases the victim has an accident (whether overdose OR a car accident) and the party goers, being so fearful of being caught with an illicit substance, try to cover up/ignore the victim to avoid legal troubles.

It's sick, but happens.

 

[GGE]

From MissD's convo w/ the detective:

"After Adrienne got back to the party, which Sargent Pooley said broke up around 3:00am, she wanted to go back to her boyfriend's house and packed a large bag. She told her roommates she was leaving and they heard her go out the door, which makes a noise and get into her car, which was parked right by the door. They are certain she left right away after going out the door.

This was, according to all counts, around 3:30am.

911 call at 3:44am. Sargent Pooley added to the 911 call, saying that the caller reported that a car had been tailgating her and driving erratically before hitting the median and that she wanted to help the person in the car but they sped off before she could lend assistance. "


When I read this I just keep thinking that everything is more or less okay until she gets back to her & her roommate's place.

Then she leaves around 3:30 and gets in her car and drives away after packing her bag, so she was behaving pretty normally, or at least not like a total nutcase.

Then at 3:44 someone reports she's been tailgating them, driving erratically, and then hit the median?

Whoa now, slow down, that gets MY attention at least. That doesn't sound like she was ok. It sounds like she was reacting to something, like if someone dropped a lit cigarette between their legs and was distracted and crashed, or found a snake between their feet, or if someone realized someone was in their backseat and was suddenly threatened or something.

I don't know but that is when things become "not right" to me... the time between her roommate or other party goer picking her up after she got out of her BF's car, and the time when she crashed.

I also get a sense of franticness from her two periods of repeated phone calls.. once to her BF and again later to the cab guy.

Something isn't right here.

She was po'd her BF wasn't giving her enough attention.. I fear someone else gave her more than enough. Way more.

If I was going to play with my imaginary missing persons magic 8 ball and were to ask it what happened to Adrienne, I suspect it might tell me "sex trafficking attempt gone bad - this girl put up too much of a fight".

This extremely disjointed and possibly nonsensical post was brought to you by a caffeine-less GGE on her way to bed, so please take with a bushel of salt and my standard lack of caffeine disclaimer.

 

[cluciano63]

Sounds like she may have been on something that night, unless the accident just caused her behavior to become more and more erratic. Maybe she came home and meant to,stay put after the wreck but then got herself riled up,again and she set off to see the BF once more, forgetting her stuff.

 

[WideOpen]

This new information (thank you Miss Demeanor) sure gives us some new info to think through.
She gets out of BF car and begins to walk at 5th and Mill vicinity.
BF calls room mate to meet Adrienne and she does this around 2:30
The party breaks up around 3 am.
She packs a large bag.
They hear her leaving. She goes out the door and its a noisy door and she gets in her car which is parked right by the door. They are certain she left right away. This, according to all accounts (who is the "all accounts") is around 3:30 am. (thats a lot of detail for persons who didnt hear her return and come back in that noisy door.)
Adrienne had a little dog?

Lots of new info, If MSM is reading here I bet they will have news to print soon.

jmo

 

[azure]

Sounds like she may have been on something that night, unless the accident just caused her behavior to become more and more erratic. Maybe she came home and meant to,stay put after the wreck but then got herself riled up,again and she set off to see the BF once more, forgetting her stuff.

I think it sounds like she was blackout drunk. None of these behaviors, from picking a fight with the bf, to crashing the car, are unusual for someone who is blacked out from drinking. The stories seem to add up, until the car accident. I think it sounds quite possible that her roommate(s) were sound asleep after a night of drinking and inferred that she came home by the appearance of her belongings. If that is the case, something happened to her between the apt and the AMPM.

If the roommate/friends are lying, the cab call is an excellent way to deflect attention. However, it would take some serious teenage masterminds to drunkenly hide a body so thoroughly that not one clue was left behind. Which takes me back to scenario 1: something happens to AS as she walks, drunk snd distraught, to meet a cab.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

From MissD's convo w/ the detective:

"After Adrienne got back to the party, which Sargent Pooley said broke up around 3:00am, she wanted to go back to her boyfriend's house and packed a large bag. She told her roommates she was leaving and they heard her go out the door, which makes a noise and get into her car, which was parked right by the door. They are certain she left right away after going out the door.

This was, according to all counts, around 3:30am.

911 call at 3:44am. Sargent Pooley added to the 911 call, saying that the caller reported that a car had been tailgating her and driving erratically before hitting the median and that she wanted to help the person in the car but they sped off before she could lend assistance. "


When I read this I just keep thinking that everything is more or less okay until she gets back to her & her roommate's place.

Then she leaves around 3:30 and gets in her car and drives away after packing her bag, so she was behaving pretty normally, or at least not like a total nutcase.

Then at 3:44 someone reports she's been tailgating them, driving erratically, and then hit the median?

Whoa now, slow down, that gets MY attention at least. That doesn't sound like she was ok. It sounds like she was reacting to something, like if someone dropped a lit cigarette between their legs and was distracted and crashed, or found a snake between their feet, or if someone realized someone was in their backseat and was suddenly threatened or something.

I don't know but that is when things become "not right" to me... the time between her roommate or other party goer picking her up after she got out of her BF's car, and the time when she crashed.

I also get a sense of franticness from her two periods of repeated phone calls.. once to her BF and again later to the cab guy.

Something isn't right here.

She was po'd her BF wasn't giving her enough attention.. I fear someone else gave her more than enough. Way more.

If I was going to play with my imaginary missing persons magic 8 ball and were to ask it what happened to Adrienne, I suspect it might tell me "sex trafficking attempt gone bad - this girl put up too much of a fight".

This extremely disjointed and possibly nonsensical post was brought to you by a caffeine-less GGE on her way to bed, so please take with a bushel of salt and my standard lack of caffeine disclaimer.

Oh god the somebody in her backseat scenario has HAUNTED me as well GGE. Thank you for admitting that scenario.

Literally, a phobia I share with my father is getting in a car and discovering mid drive that someone is in the back seat area...

 

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I think it sounds like she was blackout drunk. None of these behaviors, from picking a fight with the bf, to crashing the car, are unusual for someone who is blacked out from drinking. The stories seem to add up, until the car accident. I think it sounds quite possible that her roommate(s) were sound asleep after a night of drinking and inferred that she came home by the appearance of her belongings. If that is the case, something happened to her between the apt and the AMPM.

If the roommate/friends are lying, the cab call is an excellent way to deflect attention. However, it would take some serious teenage masterminds to drunkenly hide a body so thoroughly that not one clue was left behind. Which takes me back to scenario 1: something happens to AS as she walks, drunk snd distraught, to meet a cab.

Yes perhaps the bf was annoyed at her dependent antics and babysitting her when she partied/got tipsy!