AZ AZ - Adrienne Salinas, 19, Tempe , 15 June 2013 - #3

[MissDemeanor]

When I do think about cab companies and the fact that Adrienne was out walking alone, intoxicated, and so vulnerable at that time of morning, it really does make me wonder about the drivers who are driving these cabs who pick them up. I wonder what kind of backgrounds they have and how much LE has checked into the possibility that another cab might have been dispatched to pick her up. I really didn't know how involved some of these cab companies are with their 'young fares' until just yesterday when I saw how some companies actually post photos of their fares on social media sites.

That really did creep me out!

Of course I realize that the cabbie who was at the AM/PM was checked out and isn't considered a suspect or a POI, but it makes my head spin to think about the possibilities of a young, beautiful, naive woman, Adrienne's age, trusting anyone at that time of morning...

 

[MissDemeanor]

I mean, if it does turn out that was a cab on the surveillance tape.

Just sayin....

 

[OldSteve]

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But yesterdays news DID happen, Tonto!!!

4:52 am A slender woman was seen in the west parking lot of O'Reilly's Auto Parts on the surveillance cameras

4:54 am A dark 4 door sedan was seen heading northbound in the same parking lot 2 minutes later on the surveillance cameras


This is NEW information and we are not going to let it be forgotten!

We all know what we discussed today and why we cannot continue to discuss it 'at this time'. Most of us here arrived at the same conclusion.

I believe we were spot on and I am not going to forget it. Not for one minute.

Others can speculate all they want on other events that took place that night. If they think it is relevant that's okay. But I believe, like you do, that we have a pretty good grasp on what happened.

And it is not going to be forgotten. We, for the most part, are not going to start rehashing those things we have hashed and rehashed a thousand times.

I have a feeling that LE is closing in. I hope!

Wow! Good point! Sounds like someone got to her in the parking lot!
Reminds me a bit of Mickey Shunick case where we had video by the gas station..

 

[Tonto]

Of course I realize that the cabbie who was at the AM/PM was checked out and isn't considered a suspect or a POI

He wasn't cleared and now they refuse to discuss him at all. You're right about him not being named a suspect or POI, but if the new timestamp is correct, virtually nothing he stated appears to be accurate. That's concerning.

 

[MissDemeanor]

Thing is, as Cluciano pointed out yesterday, even if they can prove it was Adrienne and the cab driver on those surveillance tapes, all they can prove is they were there at the same time. And Cluciano also timed how long 2 minutes was if you were walking and concluded that Adrienne could have possibly been out of the parking lot entirely by the time the dark 4 door sedan was spotted on the tape.

Course, if I were LE I would be dragging out the files and going over them again.

PS...Does anyone know if cab company calls are recorded.

Just wondering!

 

[WideOpen]

I cant get into much of a discussion today regarding Adrienne, the cab or timeline at the moment but will just reiterate that cab companies by law are required to keep thorough logs of pickup locations, times and drop off locations/times. We are required to chart miles driven daily and each vehicle is to be identified individually.
LE would have been able to go through the dispatch phone logs and would know the exact time the call came in (was it 4:23 as reported by the owner on video or the later new reported time of approx 4:40).

ETA; I apologize! looks like original poster was mamacita!
Margarita, your initial timeline which included quotes and msm links was invaluable to me when I was trying to pinpoint the early details of this case. I wish we could update it and include the new information and gather it in one place. I have not had time to alter it and refocus.

I also watched and went through all the files on crankycrankersons Adrienne case and those were also important and valuable.

IMO the cabbie had the opportunity and fits the timeline, even if he has tried to establish an alibi.

Will mostly be lurking today. Keep up the forward movement for Adrienne.

jmo

 

[MissDemeanor]

Oh...one more thing:

I was thinking about those calls between the cabbie and Adrienne. The ones between 5:04 and 5:07. How can we be sure if what he said was correct? All we have is his word. Did they give him a lie detector test?

I know he's not a suspect or POI. But I still wonder how they know what he said was said is actually what was said. That's why I asked about the recordings.

I just thought someone here might know.

Okay, gonna be quiet now.

 

[WideOpen]

Wow! Good point! Sounds like someone got to her in the parking lot!
Reminds me a bit of Mickey Shunick case where we had video by the gas station..

Yes, this does have a bit of the Mickey vibe. God bless her.

jmo

 

[OldSteve]

Another thing, in the latest news are reports about when she first went to the BFs place and he went outside for "some air". This has not been previously reported. I know he isn't a suspect but I'm just curious as to if he might have been on the phone talking to someone, maybe someone at the party, about her behavior that night. It could be relevant. Also, when he took her back and she got out of his car at 5th and Mill. The latest report I have read now states that she left her cell phone on his car seat and he got out to take it to her and then called her roommate, who reportedly got on her bicycle around 3am to go searching for her, but to no avail (as was reported). I'm surprised that a young girl would go jumping on her bicycle at that time of morning to go find someone. JMHO

Good points!
Agree, why would someone go out to search - she is missing at that point... What did BF tell roommate to make her go out?

 

[Tonto]

9 guests. Lot's of lurkers. Join with us and discuss your ideas!

 

[MissDemeanor]

He wasn't cleared and now they refuse to discuss him at all. You're right about him not being named a suspect or POI, but if the new timestamp is correct, virtually nothing he stated appears to be accurate. That's concerning.

I wonder if the surveillance tape shows a slender woman talking on a cell phone.

 

[kymas3434]

Thing is, as Cluciano pointed out yesterday, even if they can prove it was Adrienne and the cab driver on those surveillance tapes, all they can prove is they were there at the same time. And Cluciano also timed how long 2 minutes was if you were walking and concluded that Adrienne could have possibly been out of the parking lot entirely by the time the dark 4 door sedan was spotted on the tape.

Course, if I were LE I would be dragging out the files and going over them again.

PS...Does anyone know if cab company calls are recorded.

Just wondering!

Yes they are recorded just like 911 calls are.

 

[MissDemeanor]

Yes they are recorded just like 911 calls are.

Oh really? You mean even the ones between the cabbie and the fare and not just the ones to and from the dispatcher?

 

[JoCoKSEyes]

FYI: This is 2013. There is no such thing as a POI or suspect anymore. These terms are obsolete in the modern day LE play book.

 

[Tonto]

I wonder if the surveillance tape shows a slender woman talking on a cell phone.

That's an interesting question. It would help police to concretely identify Adrienne if she was.

Having said this. I know we keep talking about it as if it may not be her, but for police to release the information - even vaguely - in this context leads me to believe that they are fairly certain that it is her. I know there is a chance, albeit slight, that it is not her, but I'm going with the probabilities, as they are generally more helpful when getting to the bottom of things.

 

[kymas3434]

Oh really? You mean even the ones between the cabbie and the fare and not just the ones to and from the dispatcher?

Probably not the ones from the cabbie's cell. But there will be a record of him calling her and how long he talked to her. I think that would be very important. It only takes a person less then 1 min to say "ill be there in a minutes" right?

 

[MissDemeanor]

FYI: This is 2013. There is no such thing as a POI or suspect anymore. These terms are obsolete in the modern day LE play book.

haha Jo! You're talking about Arizona now. The wild, wild West! We're still living here in the days of Wyatt Earp.

LOL!

No disrespect to LE at all! I think we have the finest in the country.

 

[MissDemeanor]

Does anyone else keep getting booted out of the forum? Maybe someone is trying to tell me something. I better be quiet now.

Carry on please....ears all perked up!

 

[OldSteve]

Does anyone else keep getting booted out of the forum? Maybe someone is trying to tell me something. I better be quiet now.

Carry on please....ears all perked up!

No, forum working find for me...

 

[kymas3434]

Does anyone else keep getting booted out of the forum? Maybe someone is trying to tell me something. I better be quiet now.

Carry on please....ears all perked up!

Yeah I think its a glitch. Its happening to me too but I haven't said anything wrong so that's what I think. Carry on sleuthers lol