AZ - Gabriel Johnson, 8 months, 26 Dec 2009 - last seen in Texas - #7

[Ransom]

Did TPS say she talked to EJ with a reporter by her side? Where is the reporters account of this so called "interview"? I'd like read it his or her take on the interview! I'm sure it was recorded. And I wish the jail would release the recording!

The reporters were from Good Morning America from the links provided earlier. JMO it will be up tomorrow at their site????????? I don't know though.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/elizabeth-johnson-tells-abc-news-baby-gabriel-alive/story?id=9554084

 

[redfish]

This may not be so much directed at Logan-- she met someone who was a "mother" figure, and her mother was murdered. She may be trusting TSP with everything. TSP knows this and is taking FULL ADVANTAGE - hence, the trip over on Sonday when there was a lockdown (sorry about the "hences" but I like them), and her little trip over there today-- TSP is such a horrible person -

WHERE ARE THE SWAT TEAMS? sorry - just MO, BUT REALLY -- Unbelievable.

Thanks for saying this out loud. I don't want to "let EJ off the hook" but I have been feeling this for awhile too. If you personally have never dealt with a master manipulator, you could not have this kind of sympathy. I have and I see this in Tammie. They are cunning. And they can wrap up even a pretty smart cookie before that cookie is aware.

 

[what about this?]

Elizabeth's mother was murdered? I never knew that. I knew both her parents were deceased, but murdered? Where did that come from? TIA.

That came from her grandfather early on - both her parents are dead, and if you want, please go back to the earlier threads -- you will find it there.

The parents were both addicted to something - when the mother was murdered (don't know how) they (the twins, Elizabeth and Robert) went to foster homes, and then to their father in Arizona. The grandfather has said that the father is dead, also.

Sooooo, if I were Elizabeth, I would subconsciously be looking for a mother. She found Mommy Dearest, IMO. Just ask TSP's 3 other children.

 

[Gypsy Road]

The reporters were from Good Morning America from the links provided earlier. JMO it will be up tomorrow at their site????????? I don't know though.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/elizabeth-johnson-tells-abc-news-baby-gabriel-alive/story?id=9554084

Thanks Ransom. I can't wait to hear it. I'm interested in the way TPS spoke to EJ, her tone, inflection, etc. and how EJ responds.

 

[mysticrose]

I am really behind tonight and trying to catch up I want to say thank you to everyone for the updates from NG show I have not been able to watch lately.

If the FBI really has a video of a so called couple with Gabe they may not be realeasing it for fear that the couple may run , hide or harm Gabe. It is better to keep it under wraps until they can figure out who they are and track them down. Now that Tammi and EJ have opened their big mouths, if this info is true it is all over the media now and won't be good.
FBI may come out and flat out deny they have it ...
Ok back to catching up

 

[Torrie]

If you go back to thread #1 (hope this works since I am so inept at this AZ - 8 mo. old Gabriel Johnson missing since 12-26-09, last seen in Texas - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community and look at the date of the first posting) No one knew about the missing boy until after the fact and days later. Too little too late, imo, but tonight on NG they were doing some searches in San Antonio, or at least I thought I heard that????

Never too late, imo. I mean, they searched for Caylee, and it was 31 days!

 

[robinmphoto]

There's two stories now? First she gave the baby away in a park, but now she gave the baby away elsewhere? .....another Casey Anthony IMO.

What when we do not believe their first story they come up with another one.

 

[DairyGirl]

I can not believe she said I needed to go to quite place so I came into his room and I am looking at his crib ....... He had a room, a crib, clothes and a carseat. This women is delusional. He was never hers. She should of never had him for the time she did.

She had him, what a week? I thought they said they were baby sitting him?

 

[time]

Elizabeth's mother was murdered? I never knew that. I knew both her parents were deceased, but murdered? Where did that come from? TIA.

I believe it is true her mom was murdered as it was said by a couple of different sources at the least. It apparently happened at or before the age of 12. I never heard the dad was murdered, that story is harder to track down - at one point someone said something like the mom and dad weren't together - I don't really know. I think they were both alcoholics and/or druggies - again, maybe someone else has that info.

 

[mum]

Yes. Tammi had to beg for the car seat and now she has a car seat that E gave her? Another contradiction. # ????? I lost count of the lies.

She will say she borrowed hers and went out and bought a new one then returned it. I am trying to remember where TPS said they met up with EJ so EJ could take GJ for a visit with his dad?

And was it the court hearing where EJ and LM were granted joint custody that the Smiths "custody papers" became no good, but yet they were good enough the night they took him from EJ's trailer to their home and the police came to their house like TPS mentioned on NG tonight?

 

[Gypsy Road]

All this talk about how smart EJ is. She may have applied herself in school and acheived a 4.0 GPA, but that doesn't mean she is "across the board" smart. She certainly isn't emotionally intelligent - she has shown us that.

 

[Ransom]

That came from her grandfather early on - both her parents are dead, and if you want, please go back to the earlier threads -- you will find it there.

The parents were both addicted to something - when the mother was murdered (don't know how) they (the twins, Elizabeth and Robert) went to foster homes, and then to their father in Arizona. The grandfather has said that the father is dead, also.

Sooooo, if I were Elizabeth, I would subconsciously be looking for a mother. She found Mommy Dearest, IMO. Just ask TSP's 3 other children.

Ok, I will go back and search. I knew her parents were deceased, but I never heard "murdered". YIKES. I knew about the 5 foster homes that Bob Johnson (grandfather) told us about. I just didn't know the "murder" thing. OFF to search. TIA.

BBM: That does not match with what I read/heard. The twins (Elizabeth/Robert) came back to AZ (after the foster homes) to be with their grandfather, not their bio-dad (he was dead). Gosh I have to search for "murdered" and "living with father in AZ". I may never come back. lol.

Elizabeth was in Boston (when Gabriel was about 1 month old) to see his other grandparent(s) according to Latisha Lance (sp) on HLN.

Off to search. Pray for me.

 

[Shear22]

Did anyone else catch on NG when TPS was talking about how she knew EJ was lying to her that she mentioned that the circumstances EJ was describing about the mystery couple were remarkably similar to how EJ met the Smiths? TPS was implying that it all sounded hinky to her (though last week she didn't have a problem with it at all and said that EJ was just trying to protect her baby). Then she mentioned that EJ said that the mystery couple had a tan carseat that they brought with them and TPS said to NG that the carseat that she and JS had was tan too. Didn't she say a few days ago that they had to ask EJ to use her carseat because they didn't have one?

I think this needs to be documented and see if we can show it was big slip up?

Yes. Tammi had to beg for the car seat and now she has a car seat that E gave her? Another contradiction. # ????? I lost count of the lies.

Does anyone remember in which of the 10,000 interviews she has given so far TPS talked about begging for the car seat?

I re-listened to what she said tonight and she rambled on about how she had gone to a quiet room in the house to talk on the phone to NG and ended up in the "the baby's room" with all of Gabriel's things. She was telling NG how she wanted to believe what EJ was saying, but it was so hard because so many things didn't add up, yadda yadda. Then she talked about how EJ said that the mystery couple brought a tan carseat with them and carried Gabriel out in it and TPS said "and I look around here and the carseat we have is tan too!"

 

[robinmphoto]

Help me remember this-- I want to look up the original story of where they took Gabe from EJ --

In this story tonight the Smiths spent 4 hours at EJ's trailer and asked her lots of questions, and then took Gabe from her

How did they have all the proper legal documents with them for that little meet and greet. They just so happened to have it on hand and notorized? The car seat they had in their car already but they stated another time they had to beg for one. Then they had a new one that was beige. I cannot keep TS' lies in order. They go one way then make a trip back to the original lie and tag on something else then go down another road:banghead::banghead::banghead:

 

[momtective]

description posted on Tammi's facebook
Couple mid 30's Living in SA area
Female is 5"1 to 5"3 110 to 125 lbs. long blond hair
Male tall, larger man, very dark short hair

 

[mysticrose]

Really, what is the market right now for a USED laptop and how did she completely erase the hard drive before selling it? Most buyers would rather have a "new" computer, unless it's being sold dirt cheap. MOO

There is a market for them, they are easy to refurbish and make new again imo ...
I wonder if the SMiths shared that little tidbit of info with LE about the computer being sold ? Or did they just find out from EJ. I certainly hope LE can find that computer and that was going to be my next question, has there been any warrants to search EJ"s home I can only hope they have but I have seen no indication of that at all.

After Logan denied signing the papers again for TS to adopt Gabe EJ may have already had a back up plan from someone else off of Craigslist if she really was determined to keep him from Logan.
Thinking out loud here and still behind ....

 

[mum]

When TPS was whinning on NG about the cops not calling her back,,,does she not know it is a "don't call us, we call you" policy??? When you are a POI you should probably getting an attorney.

 

[what about this?]

I can not believe she said I needed to go to quite place so I came into his room and I am looking at his crib ....... He had a room, a crib, clothes and a carseat. This women is delusional. He was never hers. She should of never had him for the time she did.

The kind of person (IMO) who steals fetuses. Sorry, but you can see what's going on here (IMO).

 

[RJA00]

description posted on Tammi's facebook
Couple mid 30's Living in SA area
Female is 5"1 to 5"3 110 to 125 lbs. long blond hair
Male tall, larger man, very dark short hair

she always said a lady first name on nancy grace tonight c dont know if i can say it
she only said the first name

 

[aim]

Did anyone catch TS saying that EJ described the lady part of the couple that she gave Gabriel to as looking like TS? That seems absolutley bizarre to me. Is this a CYA by TS because she is worried that she is going to show up on a surviellance video with a "tan" car seat carrying Baby Gabriel?